2024 Prospects

[moonslav59]

Assuming no roster additions and the loss of Pivetta, Jansen, Martin, Anderson, O'Neill, Cooper & Smith, this might be the 2025 26 and 40 man roster:

 

26

SP: Houck, Gio, Bello, Crawford, Whitlock/Criswell/Fitts

RP: Hendriks, Slaten, Bernardino, Weissert, Fulmer, Wink, 2 from Whit/Cris/Fitts

C: Wong & McGuire (Teel?)

1B: Casas

2B: Grissom & DHam

SS: Story & Romy (Mayer?)

3B: Devers

LF: Duran (CF)

CF: Rafaela (SS/2B) (Anthony?)

RF: Abreu (CF/LF) (Anthony?

DH: Yoshida & Refsnyder (LF/RF)

 

The 40 (14 in the minors)

SP: Perales, Wikelman, Bastardo (Rule 5)

RP: I Campbell, Kelly, Booser, Guerrero (Rule 5) or (Mata/Uwasawa/Horn?)

C: Teel (?not rule 5) or Jh. Garcia (Rule 5) or Heineman

1B/3B: Dalbec or Kavadas (Rule 5)

IF: Mayer (not Rule 5) & Yorke (Rule 5)

OF: Anthony (not Rule 5) & Castro and or Lugo (both Rule 5)

 

[mvp 78]

They seem to not drop some guys as much as others, for some reason. Lugo had just one bad year after rising to #14.

 

Guys like Castro, Paulino and Jordan seem to drop more slowly.

 

I know they get more behind the scenes information, so I wonder what is different from '22 to '23 to '24? I've asked specific questions about players to them in the past and they haven't really addressed it.

[mvp 78]

Great points.

 

Speaking of age 22...

 

Sox top prospects by ages:

 

18: Cespedes 6, Arias 21

19: Zanetello 8, Jo Garcia 18

20: Anthony 1, Bleis 5 (missed time), E R-C 16

21: Mayer 2, Perales 4, K Campbell 10, Castor 12, Paulino 14

22: Teel 3, Meidroth 11, Lugo 13, Wikelman 15, Yorke 17

23: Sandlin 9

24: Fitts 7

 

Looks like a pretty good mix.

 

RED= ML Ready or should be by 2025.

 

With how Perales is throwing, did you consider making him red?

[moonslav59]

With how Perales is throwing, did you consider making him red?

 

I did, but thought more likely Sept '25 at the earliest.

 

No issue with thinking 2025.

[moonslav59]

Woo won 8-2

Alexander 6 IP 2H 0ER 2BB 4K

Sogard and Yorke homered and had 2 hits, each.

Kavadas and Meidroth got their daily BB.

Yoshida 1-4 in rehab

 

POR is losing 5-4

Perales 2.1 IP 2H 1ER 1BB 3K

K Campbell 1-2 w 2BB and 2B

Anthony, Mayer and Teel on base once each.

 

GRE was smoked 12-1, with aa runs allowed in the 7th and 8th.

Paez 5 IP 2H 1ER 0BB 8K

Monegro 2IP 5H 9runs 4ER 4BB 2K

 

SAL scored 3 in the 8th to go up 7-4, but now are down 8-7

Zanetello 0-5 w 4Ks

 

Cespedes 2-3 (1.009 OPS) in an FCL win.

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Adjustments to his swing have catapulted Kristian Campbell on a fast-path -- like outfield teammate Roman Anthony, Campbell is now in Portland, but with a year of college ball under his belt.

 

Campbell is 22 and bats right-handed. Anthony is 20 and bats left-handed. The Red Sox are no rush to promote Anthony, their #1 prospect, until he masters his current level; at this point would it be surprising if Campbell progresses to Boston first?

[moonslav59]

Adjustments to his swing have catapulted Kristian Campbell on a fast-path -- like outfield teammate Roman Anthony, Campbell is now in Portland, but with a year of college ball under his belt.

 

Campbell is 22 and bats right-handed. Anthony is 20 and bats left-handed. The Red Sox are no rush to promote Anthony, their #1 prospect, until he masters his current level; at this point would it be surprising if Campbell progresses to Boston first?

 

We finally have RHB looking good, on the farm.

[Larry Cook]

Yorke with a grand slam today!

Anthony with a tater today

Coffey, Garcia and Gonzalez with taters for Greenville. Greenville had an epic comeback today

Zanetello with a tater today

[moonslav59]

Yorke with a grand slam today!

Anthony with a tater today

Coffey, Garcia and Gonzalez with taters for Greenville. Greenville had an epic comeback today

Zanetello with a tater today

 

We can call these kids the "Tater Tots."

[moonslav59]

Fitts had a bad game:

5.1 IP, 4H 4ER 5BB 4K

Besides Yorke's granny, Yoshida went 1-3 w BB

 

POR won, but Wikelman is looking like burnt toast:

4.1, 7H, 7ER, 3BB and just 1K

Anthony and K Campbell both went 2-4 (Anthony HR'd)

Mayber 1-3 w BB

 

GRE won as Rogers got lit up.

Coffey went 3-5 w his dinger

Romero 2-4 w BB

 

SAL won as Dean pitched a gem: 5.0, 0H, 0ER, 1BB, 8K

[mvp 78]

Adjustments to his swing have catapulted Kristian Campbell on a fast-path -- like outfield teammate Roman Anthony, Campbell is now in Portland, but with a year of college ball under his belt.

 

Campbell is 22 and bats right-handed. Anthony is 20 and bats left-handed. The Red Sox are no rush to promote Anthony, their #1 prospect, until he masters his current level; at this point would it be surprising if Campbell progresses to Boston first?

 

 

Campbell, a college grad, is almost a full 2 years older than Roman. I'm not sure of any swing adjustments that he made this season. Something about his swing reminds me of Hunter Pence.

[mvp 78]

Yorke with a grand slam today!

Anthony with a tater today

Coffey, Garcia and Gonzalez with taters for Greenville. Greenville had an epic comeback today

Zanetello with a tater today

 

Interesting to see Yorke hit so well in AAA. SoxProspects stated that his underlying metrics in AA weren't very good so he was really in a rough stretch before getting the call up.

[mvp 78]

Fitts had a bad game:

5.1 IP, 4H 4ER 5BB 4K

Besides Yorke's granny, Yoshida went 1-3 w BB

 

POR won, but Wikelman is looking like burnt toast:

4.1, 7H, 7ER, 3BB and just 1K

Anthony and K Campbell both went 2-4 (Anthony HR'd)

Mayber 1-3 w BB

 

GRE won as Rogers got lit up.

Coffey went 3-5 w his dinger

Romero 2-4 w BB

 

SAL won as Dean pitched a gem: 5.0, 0H, 0ER, 1BB, 8K

 

12.43 ERA the past 3 starts for Wikelman. Injury?

[moonslav59]

Interesting to see Yorke hit so well in AAA. SoxProspects stated that his underlying metrics in AA weren't very good so he was really in a rough stretch before getting the call up.

 

It is nice to see, but rather a small sample size.

[moonslav59]

Campbell, a college grad, is almost a full 2 years older than Roman. I'm not sure of any swing adjustments that he made this season. Something about his swing reminds me of Hunter Pence.

 

We could sure use a big RHB in the bigs.

[moonslav59]

12.43 ERA the past 3 starts for Wikelman. Injury?

 

Maybe.

 

To me, he should be below #20 or even 30.

Edited June 10, 2024 by moonslav59

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Campbell, a college grad, is almost a full 2 years older than Roman. I'm not sure of any swing adjustments that he made this season. Something about his swing reminds me of Hunter Pence.

 

Last week reports said he was drafted as a contact guy who used his speed, but the Sox encouraged him to tap into more power. So he worked all winter in cages incorporating a leg kick that helps his weight shift and generates more torque from the hips. An approach trying to hit the bottom half of the ball has also put more balls in the air, and he's been burning outfielders over their heads or in the gaps all season.

[Hugh2]

Campbell, a college grad, is almost a full 2 years older than Roman. I'm not sure of any swing adjustments that he made this season. Something about his swing reminds me of Hunter Pence.

 

 

I would be totally cool with the next Hunter Pence. Please speak this into existence MVP

[mvp 78]

It is nice to see, but rather a small sample size.

 

SoxProspects noted that he really struggles with the changeup and had a 200 OPS against it so far.

[mvp 78]

Maybe.

 

To me, he should be below #20 or even 30.

 

IDK, I don't like wild swings in the rankings unless there's something really wrong with the player. Either he was extremely overrated before or he would be dumped on for a few bad months. We saw something similar with Lugo last season to now. I'd rather the ups and downs not be so dramatic, unless we really are a "hot or not" rankings system.

[mvp 78]

Last week reports said he was drafted as a contact guy who used his speed, but the Sox encouraged him to tap into more power. So he worked all winter in cages incorporating a leg kick that helps his weight shift and generates more torque from the hips. An approach trying to hit the bottom half of the ball has also put more balls in the air, and he's been burning outfielders over their heads or in the gaps all season.

 

There's a lot of talk about his swing and it's very "loose" to me. It's a little all over the place. It's not a nice smooth swing like you see out of some players. I can see how he might get out of whack. He kind of muscles the ball the way Pence used to using his whole body. Almost out of control. If that's what works for him, great. I'm glad the Sox aren't tinkering with him in a bad way.

[mvp 78]

Promotion train keeps chugging along...

 

@alexspeier

Red Sox are promoting outfield prospect Miguel Bleis from Salem to Greenville

[moonslav59]

SoxProspects noted that he really struggles with the changeup and had a 200 OPS against it so far.

 

I heard that podcast. Very worrisome, if he ever makes the bigs.

[moonslav59]

IDK, I don't like wild swings in the rankings unless there's something really wrong with the player. Either he was extremely overrated before or he would be dumped on for a few bad months.

 

He's always had major BB issues, and I think the 48 IP in AA, last year got everyone overly excited, despite the 28 BBs.

 

I guess guys from 15-30 are not far apart, anyway.

[mvp 78]

Bleis leaves Salem carrying a 16 game hit streak, 914 OPS in March. He should really tear the cover off the ball in Greenville as many batters struggle hitting in Salem (Bleis away OPS is 80 points higher).

[mvp 78]

OPS

 

Johanfran Garcia

959 at Salem

1256 away

 

Jhostynxon Garcia

775 at Salem

958 away

 

Zanetello

659 at Salem

982 away

[moonslav59]

OPS

 

Johanfran Garcia

959 at Salem

1256 away

 

Jhostynxon Garcia

775 at Salem

958 away

 

Zanetello

659 at Salem

982 away

 

Those Garcia brothers could be poised for big jumps, next season, assuming healthy.

[mvp 78]

“I felt like I was hitting a lot of balls hard that were just getting caught,” said Yorke. “You see an outfielder usually run back on them and they’re running in and it’s like, ‘What do I have to do?’ Playing in a ballpark like Portland in April and May, it’s tough to get stuff going."

 

Yorke (POR only)

Home 569 OPS

Away 836 OPS

[moonslav59]

Yorke

 

Nick Yorke settling in offensively at Triple-A

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[moonslav59]

At some point, we might see Mayer, Anthony an Teel promoted to AAA.

Yoshida & Heineman to MLB (Dalbec & Westbrook to AAA)

Meidroth back to 3B

Romero to SS at AAA

Rosario to C at AA or just go with Marrero & Donlan at C

Jh Garcia to OF in AA

(Bleis just moved up to GRE)

Maybe Zanetello to GRE

McElveny to co-C at GRE

Cespedes to SS at SAL