2024 Prospects

[moonslav59]

Not really. Teel would probably be the likeliest one. But Mayer just having a great season at AA is a success, and Anthony is still super young.

 

I guess I'm not really "surprised," but I would also have not been surprised had all 3 been promoted after the trade deadline. Mayer got hurt, recently, so that might have held him back.

 

Here is soxprospects.com ETAs:

 

Early 2025:

2. Mayer

3. Teel

11. Meidroth

 

Mid 2025:

1. Anthony

15. Fitts

 

Late 2025:

5. Campbell

20. Dobbins, 22. Penrod

 

We could see 5-6 significant additions during the 2025 season!

 

2026:

10. Sandlin

12. Castro

18. Romero

21. Wikelman, 24. Early, 25. Monegro

 

2027:

4. Montgomery

6. Bleis

13. Zanetello

14. Tolle

16. E Rod

19. Jh Garcia

 

2028:

8. Arias

9. Cespedes

17. Jo Garcia

23. Cason, 27. Valera

[Larry Cook]

Not really. Teel would probably be the likeliest one. But Mayer just having a great season at AA is a success, and Anthony is still super young.

 

Anthony - really struggled earlier this year with breaking balls but has seemed to figure it out.

Mayer - he struggles with down and in pitches and has never figured it out

Teel - Some have said the defense has issues. I have not seen it, but maybe that is why he has not been promoted

[moonslav59]

Anthony - really struggled earlier this year with breaking balls but has seemed to figure it out.

Mayer - he struggles with down and in pitches and has never figured it out

Teel - Some have said the defense has issues. I have not seen it, but maybe that is why he has not been promoted

 

They could work on improving in those areas at AAA, too.

 

I will say, we may have one hell of a AAA club to start 2025:

 

C: Teel, Gasper

1B: Jordan, Dalbec

2B: Valdez

SS: Mayer

3B: Meidroth

LF: Westbrook, Rosier (maybe Campbell mid season)

CF: Anthony

RF: Sogard, Sikes

DH: Hickey/Valdez/Dalbec

 

SP: Fitts, Priester, Penrod, Gambrell, Dobbins

RP: I Campbell, Weissert, Horn, Mills, Guerrer

[moonslav59]

Wow! POR scored 7 runs in the 8th!

 

Anthony 4-5 (Marrero, too.)

Campbell 2-4 w BB

Teel 0-4 w SF

 

Woo won 9-6

Westbrook 4-5

Gasper 2-4 w 2BB

Casas 2-6 w 2 2Bs

Grissom 1-5 w BB

 

GRE scored 9 runs in the 10th!

Jh Garcia 4-6 w 2B

Castro 3-5 w BB- a homer short of the cycle!

Turner 1-5 w BB & 3B

 

SAL won 5-3 with a nice pitched start by Kirwin (4 IP, 1H, 0ER, 0BB, 5K)

Encarnacion 2-4 w 4 rbi

 

[mvp 78]

They could work on improving in those areas at AAA, too.

 

I will say, we may have one hell of a AAA club to start 2025:

 

C: Teel, Gasper

1B: Jordan, Dalbec

2B: Valdez

SS: Mayer

3B: Meidroth

LF: Westbrook, Rosier (maybe Campbell mid season)

CF: Anthony

RF: Sogard, Sikes

DH: Hickey/Valdez/Dalbec

 

SP: Fitts, Priester, Penrod, Gambrell, Dobbins

RP: I Campbell, Weissert, Horn, Mills, Guerrer

 

Dalbec can't be in AAA without being DFA'd. Westbrook will most likely be DFA'd this offseason. Guerrero is a potential Rule 5 pick...

[moonslav59]

Dalbec can't be in AAA without being DFA'd. Westbrook will most likely be DFA'd this offseason. Guerrero is a potential Rule 5 pick...

 

Dalbec is likely gone, granted.

Westbrook might stick around, until the middle IF is settled, but no big loss, if we lose him.

Gasper or Kavadas can be Jordan's back-up at 1B.

I'm not sure we protect Guerrero, so he may be taken. Our prospects seem to be highly regarded by Rule 5 scavenger hunts.

 

Even losing all these 4, the AAA teams looks about a strong as I've seen in years- maybe even decades.

 

The wait has been a long one. Most of us knew the farm could not be rebuilt overnight, under the changed rules from years ago. The time is now. We already have a well-documented everyday 13 going into 2025, so it is soon to be time to use that depth to trade for pitching. If we can get JH to splurge on another one, we might just be a top 3-4 favorite in 2025.

 

[moonslav59]

WOO won 6-3 as Fitts did okay:

6IP, 5H, 2ER, 1BB, 7K

Weissert 2IP, 2, 0, 0, 3

Gasper homered (1.158 in AAA)

Hickey hit a 3 run job.

 

POR won 4-2 as Dobbins let up 8 hits and 2 BB in 4.1 IP, but just 2 runs.

Teel walked twice.

Ehhard 1-4

 

GRE & SAL washed out.

 

[Larry Cook]

Dalbec is likely gone, granted.

Westbrook might stick around, until the middle IF is settled, but no big loss, if we lose him.

Gasper or Kavadas can be Jordan's back-up at 1B.

I'm not sure we protect Guerrero, so he may be taken. Our prospects seem to be highly regarded by Rule 5 scavenger hunts.

 

Even losing all these 4, the AAA teams looks about a strong as I've seen in years- maybe even decades.

 

The wait has been a long one. Most of us knew the farm could not be rebuilt overnight, under the changed rules from years ago. The time is now. We already have a well-documented everyday 13 going into 2025, so it is soon to be time to use that depth to trade for pitching. If we can get JH to splurge on another one, we might just be a top 3-4 favorite in 2025.

 

 

As crazy stacked as Worcester will be , Portland should also have a decent roster next year.

Romero

Garcia

Ravelo

Castro

B Gonzalez

Rosario

 

The hitting depth is off the charts

[Hugh2]

As crazy stacked as Worcester will be , Portland should also have a decent roster next year.

Romero

Garcia

Ravelo

Castro

B Gonzalez

Rosario

 

The hitting depth is off the charts

 

Some interesting names for sure, I hope some of those guys pop, while none of them are terribly highly regarded it could also be where a lot of those guys flame out as well.

 

Greenville might be just as interesting as all of them.

 

Johanfran Garcia

Justin Riemer

Antonio Anderson

Nazzan Zanetello

Miguel Bleis

Braden Montgomery.

 

A few of those guys have fell short of expecations to date; thinking about 2023 draftees Zanetello and Anderson, but they're both very young and were considered projects when drafted. If they pop, Greenville will be as interesting as any of them.

[moonslav59]

As crazy stacked as Worcester will be , Portland should also have a decent roster next year.

Romero

Garcia

Ravelo

Castro

B Gonzalez

Rosario

 

The hitting depth is off the charts

 

Agreed. This year, it's the Portland line-up that jumps out at me. BTW, they are 59-44 on the season. (WOO is 52-59.) I think these records may flip, next year, unless we call up 3-5 big names early in the season.

[moonslav59]

Some interesting names for sure, I hope some of those guys pop, while none of them are terribly highly regarded it could also be where a lot of those guys flame out as well.

 

Greenville might be just as interesting as all of them.

 

Johanfran Garcia

Justin Riemer

Antonio Anderson

Nazzan Zanetello

Miguel Bleis

Braden Montgomery.

 

A few of those guys have fell short of expecations to date; thinking about 2023 draftees Zanetello and Anderson, but they're both very young and were considered projects when drafted. If they pop, Greenville will be as interesting as any of them.

 

A testament to just how deep our farm is, particularly non-pitching.

 

The top 3 get a lot of press, and the next 3-4 are starting to get more and more talk, but the rest are pretty promising, too.

[Larry Cook]

A testament to just how deep our farm is, particularly non-pitching.

 

The top 3 get a lot of press, and the next 3-4 are starting to get more and more talk, but the rest are pretty promising, too.

 

Take out the top 3 and the next group of cespedes, arias, Campbell, blies and Montgomery are not that bad at all

[moonslav59]

Woo was rained out and Sandlin got drilled at POR, but some exciting news from some bats:

 

Ehrhard went 3-4 w his first dinger.

Campbell & Teel both went 2 for 5 with dingers.

Anthony went 1-5 w a dinger.

 

 

[Larry Cook]

Woo was rained out and Sandlin got drilled at POR, but some exciting news from some bats:

 

Ehrhard went 3-4 w his first dinger.

Campbell & Teel both went 2 for 5 with dingers.

Anthony went 1-5 w a dinger.

 

 

 

Sandlin looked pretty good for the first four innings. But the wheels exploded in the fifth inning. He served up two meatballs. But it could have been more. One pitch can be unhittable and the next a meatball

The stuff is good, but the command comes and goes by pitch!

[moonslav59]

Sandlin looked pretty good for the first four innings. But the wheels exploded in the fifth inning. He served up two meatballs. But it could have been more. One pitch can be unhittable and the next a meatball

The stuff is good, but the command comes and goes by pitch!

 

I think our farm pitching is starting to show signs of improvement, especially in quantity, but what worries me most is two-fold:

 

1. Our pitchers that are closest to ML-ready do now WOW anyone.

Fitts

Gambrell

Penrod

2. Our highest ranked pitchers are not having great seasons in 2024.

Perales (Out for the season with surgery)

Sandlin

Fitts

 

The guy who is maybe #4 on both lists is Dobbins, who might end up okay, but he WOWs nobody, too.

 

Our best hopes are far-aways and Perales returning from major surgery.

[Larry Cook]

I think our farm pitching is starting to show signs of improvement, especially in quantity, but what worries me most is two-fold:

 

1. Our pitchers that are closest to ML-ready do now WOW anyone.

Fitts

Gambrell

Penrod

2. Our highest ranked pitchers are not having great seasons in 2024.

Perales (Out for the season with surgery)

Sandlin

Fitts

 

The guy who is maybe #4 on both lists is Dobbins, who might end up okay, but he WOWs nobody, too.

 

Our best hopes are far-aways and Perales returning from major surgery.

 

I think the emphasis across the organization is to throw breaking balls for strikes. Only time will tell if our guys have the ability to develop the command and control needed to develop into major leaguers

[moonslav59]

I think the emphasis across the organization is to throw breaking balls for strikes. Only time will tell if our guys have the ability to develop the command and control needed to develop into major leaguers

 

The Sox are not alone in the philosophy, so in many ways, the whole league watches and waits.

 

I like our pitching in the lower levels, but I realize I'm a homer on our prospects.

[moonslav59]

Jh. Garcia went 3-3 w 2 rbi and a 2B.

Ehrhard also went 3-3.

 

POR is being no hit through 5. (Campbell w 2 BBs)

[moonslav59]

POR no hit through 5 and scores 10 in the 6th!

 

Campbell, Binelas and Sikes homered.

 

Ehrhard 1-3 w 2BB

 

[Larry Cook]

The Sox are not alone in the philosophy, so in many ways, the whole league watches and waits.

 

I like our pitching in the lower levels, but I realize I'm a homer on our prospects.

 

I am probably not as high on the pitching in the lower levels as you. Valero is the only starter I see.

 

But there are a ton of potential major league relievers, if the command and control improves!

 

Next year, I want to see what level each of the 2024 pitching draft class starts the year at!

[moonslav59]

I am probably not as high on the pitching in the lower levels as you. Valero is the only starter I see.

 

But there are a ton of potential major league relievers, if the command and control improves!

 

Next year, I want to see what level each of the 2024 pitching draft class starts the year at!

 

I "like it," but do not think it is great.

 

I see improvement beginning, but improvement over being the worst in MLB may still fall far short of what we need.

 

It was good to see us draft more pitchers, this year, and I realize having many pitchers in the 20th to 60th rankings on soxprospects.com is not something to get joyous about, it looks better to me than it did just 1-2 years ago and certainly beyond.

 

Also, while some of our younger pitchers in the bigs are struggling, like Bello, Houck, Crawford, Wink and Slaten, many are having better seasons than homegrown pitchers have had since the Lester-Buch and Masterson days.

 

Again, better than s*** can still be s*****, too, but there were our highest ranked pitchers over the last 15 years:

 

(I only listed pitchers on multiple year lists, once.)

 

2010: 1. Casey Kelly, 7 Pimental, 11 Doubront, 12. Bowden, 13 Tazawa, 19 Weiland, 20. Fife

 

2011: 3. Ranaudo, 4 Drake Britton, 14. Workman

 

2012: 7. Barnes, 14. Alex Wilson, 20 Henry Owens

 

2013: 4. Allen Webster (trade) 5. Ruby de la Rosa (trade), 12. Brian Johnson

 

2014: 12. Trey Ball, 15. Stankiewicz

 

2015: 6. ERod (trade), 10 Kopech, 14. E Escobar (trade)

 

2016: 3. Espinoza, 10 Lakins, 15 Pat Light

 

2017: 3 Groome, 8 Raudes, 14 Shawaryn, 15 Cosart, 16 Mata, 19 S Anderson

 

2018: 4. Houck, 7 DHern, 9 Scherff, 13 Beeks, 15 Thompson

 

2019: 9 Feltman, 19 D Reyes

 

2020: 9 Song, 11 TWard, 13 Zeferjahn, 14 Aldo Ramirez (traded for Schwarber), 16 Murphy, 19 Bello

 

2021: 4 Whitlock, 7 Seabold (trade)

 

2022: 9 Walter, 11 Wikelman, 12 Winckowski (trade), 16 Crawford

 

2023: 8 Perales, 13 Drohan, 16 E R-C

 

2024: 9 Fitts (trade,) 12 Sandlin, 20 Slaten

 

The 2025 Rankings may include:

8-20: Perales, Sandlin, Tolle, E R-C, Dobbins

21-35: Valera, Cason, Early, Paez, Monegro, Mullins, D Reyes, Dean, Wikelman

36-60: Clarke, Tygart, Mata, Carlson, Ingrassia, Penrod, Guerrero, Horn, Gambrell, Rogers, Duffy, Hoppe, Drohan,

[moonslav59]

POR pulled off a 9-8 win.

Campbell & Anthony both went 2-4 with a homer and BB (Anthony also 2B'd).

Teel went 3-5 w a 2B.

 

Woo's game was suspended, down 4-2 after a 2 run Dalbec homer.

 

GRE was shut out 5-0.

 

SAL is up 2-0 with Arias 2 for 2 with 2 rbi.

Duffy went a strong 5 IP w 7 Ks and 0 BBs (3 hits and 0 runs)

 

 

 

[Old Red]

Mayer promoted to Woo!

[Bellhorn04]

Mayer promoted to Woo!

 

I heard all 3 promoted.

 

Throwing the fans a bone.

[Old Red]

I heard all 3 promoted.

 

Throwing the fans a bone.

 

Right you are. The post I saw was an hour ago, but the other report was 10 minutes ago saying all three. One step closer to Boston.

[moonslav59]

I heard all 3 promoted.

 

Throwing the fans a bone.

 

The fans in Portland will be bummed.

 

I wonder how long they stay with Woo. If another year of control is at stake, maybe we hold off on some MLB promotions in 2025, a little bit.

[moonslav59]

According to soxprospects.com, these prospects will be MLB ready, next season:

 

Early '25: Mayer, Teel, Meidroth

Mid '25: Anthony, Fitts

Late '25: Campbell, Dobbins, Jordan, Penrod

 

Already seen time in the bigs: Sogard & Horn

Graduated in '24: Rafaela, Abreu, Slaten, DHam & Booser

[Larry Cook]

According to soxprospects.com, these prospects will be MLB ready, next season:

 

Early '25: Mayer, Teel, Meidroth

Mid '25: Anthony, Fitts

Late '25: Campbell, Dobbins, Jordan, Penrod

 

Already seen time in the bigs: Sogard & Horn

Graduated in '24: Rafaela, Abreu, Slaten, DHam & Booser

 

The last three years have seen a fair number of homegrown talent make it to Boston. Pretty impressive stuff

[moonslav59]

The last three years have seen a fair number of homegrown talent make it to Boston. Pretty impressive stuff

 

We even graduated some decent pitchers, but yes, we have seen a pretty impressive uptick of significant farm infusion in recent years.

 

I'm sure I left some people off this list, but here is a stab at listing meaningful call-ups over the years:

 

2016: Beni

2017: Devers, Brian Johnson, H Velazquez, Josh Taylor

2018: Marcus Walden, Beeks (traded)

2019: Dalbec, Chavis, DHern

2020: Houck

2021: Duran, Whitlock, Wong

2022: Crawford, Winckowski

2023: Casas, Bello, Kelly, E Valdez

2024: Abreu, Rafaela, Slaten, DHam, Booser

 

Certainly more in RED, recently. Maybe 2025 blows these other best years out of the water.

[Larry Cook]

Anthony - plays every day.

 

Romero and Mayer - spend a lot of time on the DL.

 

Are California kids softer than Florida kids????