2024 Prospects

[Larry Cook]

My top prospect list:

1. Anthony

2. Mayer

3. Teel

4. Campbell

5. Montgomery

6. Cespedes

7. Arias

8. Bleis

9. Jh Garcia

10. Sandlin

11. Meidroth

12. Perales

13. Valera

14. Tolle

15. Jo. Garcia

16. Fitts

17. E R-C

18. Dobbins

19. Romero

20. Monegro

21. Early

22. Paez

23. Cason

24. Castro

25. Zanetello

26. Mullins

27. Wehunt

28. D Reyes

29. Neely

30. Wieklman

 

 

 

That is the best top 10 we have had in many years. And only 1 pitcher!!!

[moonslav59]

The under 28 Rankings:

1. Devers 27

2. Duran 27

3. Houck 28

4. Anthony 20

5. Mayer 21

6. Teel 22

7. Abreu 25

8. Casas 24

9. Rafaela 23

11. K Campbell 22

12. Montgomery

13. Crawford 28

14. Bello 25

15. Cespedes 18

16. Arias 18

17. Whitlock 28

18. Slaten 26

19. Arias 18

20. Sandlin 23

21. Perales 21

22. Bleis 20

23. Wink 26

24. Sandlin 23

25. Fitts 24

26. Jo Garcia 19

27. Dobbins 24

28. Valera 18

29. Romero 20

30. Monegro 21

Others:

Meidroth 23, DHam 26, Grissom 23, Romy 27

Criswell 27, I Campbell 26, Tolle 21, Paez 20, Cason 18, Early 23

E Valdez 25, Castro 21, Zanetello 19, E R-C 21

 

[notin]

Is Mata still under 28?

 

The guy has pitched 130 IP total in the last 5 years. Are the Sox he magically morphs into an ace what with all that rest?

 

DFA him instead of useful players like Smith…

[moonslav59]

Is Mata still under 28?

 

The guy has pitched 130 IP total in the last 5 years. Are the Sox he magically morphs into an ace what with all that rest?

 

DFA him instead of useful players like Smith…

 

They can hold off DFA'ing Mata due to his injury. Smith needed to stay on the 26, so that was why he was the correct choice to go. I suppose we could have demoted Romy (.790) and DFA'd Mata, or Dalbec, or...., but Romy can play 1B, too.

[mvp 78]

Is Mata still under 28?

 

The guy has pitched 130 IP total in the last 5 years. Are the Sox he magically morphs into an ace what with all that rest?

 

DFA him instead of useful players like Smith…

 

Mata is on the 60 IL and doesn’t count against the 40.

[Larry Cook]

They can hold off DFA'ing Mata due to his injury. Smith needed to stay on the 26, so that was why he was the correct choice to go. I suppose we could have demoted Romy (.790) and DFA'd Mata, or Dalbec, or...., but Romy can play 1B, too.

 

Why do we keep dalbec???

[moonslav59]

Why do we keep dalbec???

 

He has options. Smith needed to stay on the 26 not the 40.

 

I do think Dalbec gets the axe, this winter.

[moonslav59]

Woo won by shutout:

B Keller: 6 IP, 4H, 1BB, 4K

Weissert & Joely closed it out (3IP, 1H, 0BB, 3K)

Anthony has struggled in AAA (.369 OPS.)

Meidroth 2-3 w BB

Grissom 1-3

Teel 1-4 (.277 OPS)

 

POR won 10-2

Wikelman 4IP, 2H, 0ER, 1BB, 4K

Gh Garcia 2-5 w HR

Campbell 2-5 w 2B

Castro 2-5 and Sikes 3-5 w HR

 

GRE is up 5-1 with Mullins 5IP, 4H, 1ER, 4BB, 4K

 

SAL is up 2-0 with Duffy 5IP, 2H, 0ER, 1BB, 9Ks!

Carlson: 3 IP, 2H, 0ER, 0BB, 5K

 

 

 

 

 

[Larry Cook]

Woo won by shutout:

B Keller: 6 IP, 4H, 1BB, 4K

Weissert & Joely closed it out (3IP, 1H, 0BB, 3K)

Anthony has struggled in AAA (.369 OPS.)

Meidroth 2-3 w BB

Grissom 1-3

Teel 1-4 (.277 OPS)

 

POR won 10-2

Wikelman 4IP, 2H, 0ER, 1BB, 4K

Gh Garcia 2-5 w HR

Campbell 2-5 w 2B

Castro 2-5 and Sikes 3-5 w HR

 

GRE is up 5-1 with Mullins 5IP, 4H, 1ER, 4BB, 4K

 

SAL is up 2-0 with Duffy 5IP, 2H, 0ER, 1BB, 9Ks!

Carlson: 3 IP, 2H, 0ER, 0BB, 5K

 

 

 

 

 

 

The pitching these past two days has been amazing

[moonslav59]

The pitching these past two days has been amazing

 

With GRE, even longer...

 

GRE: 4 runs in 4 games

[Larry Cook]

With GRE, even longer...

 

GRE: 4 runs in 4 games

 

Does tolle start next season at Salem?

[moonslav59]

Does tolle start next season at Salem?

 

soxprospects.com projects these rotations for 2025:

 

AAA: Fitts, Gambrell, Dobbins, Drohan, Penrod

AA: Sandlin, Wikelman, Early, Mullins, ICoffey, Monegro

A+: E R-C, Paez, Wehunt, Tolle, Neely, Futrell

A-: Valera, Ehrlicher, Judice, Clarke, Tygart, Aita

 

Draftees

 

Montgomery (RF), Ehrhard (LF), Turner (DH) and White (2nd C) starting season in GRE.

Cason starting in SAL at 3B

[Larry Cook]

soxprospects.com projects these rotations for 2025:

 

AAA: Fitts, Gambrell, Dobbins, Drohan, Penrod

AA: Sandlin, Wikelman, Early, Mullins, ICoffey, Monegro

A+: E R-C, Paez, Wehunt, Tolle, Neely, Futrell

A-: Valera, Ehrlicher, Judice, Clarke, Tygart, Aita

 

Draftees

 

Montgomery (RF), Ehrhard (LF), Turner (DH) and White (2nd C) starting season in GRE.

Cason starting in SAL at 3B

 

Valera stays at Salem? Interesting

Futrell - I saw pitch a couple times. Stuff is barely ok. Maybe Bailey sees something there

Aita - could be great but could flame out! The stuff has potential but he never put it together

[moonslav59]

Valera stays at Salem? Interesting

Futrell - I saw pitch a couple times. Stuff is barely ok. Maybe Bailey sees something there

Aita - could be great but could flame out! The stuff has potential but he never put it together

 

Valera is just 18, and all they are saying is he starts the season at Salem, which is pretty nice for his age.

 

I'm liking how our minor league pitching is improving in quantity and quality with every week that passes, and the draft helped.

[Larry Cook]

Valera is just 18, and all they are saying is he starts the season at Salem, which is pretty nice for his age.

 

I'm liking how our minor league pitching is improving in quantity and quality with every week that passes, and the draft helped.

 

Is this the new normal, to develop pitchers with mediocre stuff???

[moonslav59]

Is this the new normal, to develop pitchers with mediocre stuff???

 

I'm no expert on acquiring and developing young pitching prospects. I'm not sure about your "mediocre stuff." You may be right.

 

I'm just looking at how well many of our pitchers on the farm have been doing, this year. I know the numbers do not always tell the whole story, but it seems to me, we have more promising young pitchers than a year ago, 2 years ago, 3 years ago and on and on.

 

Young pitchers can move from mediocre to better stuff as they age and move through the system. Sure, it would be nice to have a few pitchers that start out with electric stuff that most ranking services rate as worthy of being in the top 10, 20, 50 or 150 prospect rankings. Maybe we reach that point, in the next couple years. It was a shame to see Perales join some lists, then need TJS, but that seems to be a more and more common thing for young pitchers ranked highly at a younger age.

 

I'm not sure about the improvement of our acquisition and development systems, and maybe I'm wearing dayglow pink glasses, but I think I see improvement, even if just in quantity. Adding more pitchers with hopes, even if slight, does increase the odds on more pitchers making meaningful impacts at the big league level, at some point. We've seen a few surprises in recent years- more than we saw for over a decade after the Lester-Buch era.

 

I'm going to stay optimistic on this.

 

These are some OPS Against, this year....

.360 Valera (52 IP) #27 is astounding! FCL>SAL

.360 D Reyes (16) DSL #34

.506 Y Ruiz (46) DSL

.542 Dean (74) SAL>GRE #36

.548 Ingrassia (53) SAL #50

.561 E R-C (76) SAL>GRE #16

.576 Wehunt (78) SAL>GRE #33

.579 Kirwin (59) SAL>GRE

.608 Dobbins (99) POR #20

.623 Cohen (84) SAL

.624 Sansone (58) SAL

.628 Early (85) GRE>POR #24

.631 Perales (34) GRE>POR #7 (TJS)

.634 Duffy (84) SAL #60

.638 Penrod (54) POR>WOR #22

.639 Paez (82) SAL>GRE #28

.643 Monegro FCL>>GRE #25

.646 Cellucci (52) POR>WOR

.647 Kwiatkowski (64) POR>WOR

.653 Sena (48) GRE

.658 Brand (49) GRE>POR

.665 O'Donnell (52) SAL

.665 Fogell (55) SAL>GRE

.671 Carlson (59) DAL>GRE #49

.677 Wikelman (65) POR #21

.682 I Coffey (92) POR

.682 Stebens (55) SAL>GRE

.685 Mullins (74) GRE #29

.692 Guerrero (46) WOR #32

.693 Jackson (69) GRE

.706 Rogers (66) GRE #58

.718 Gambrell (84) WOR #39

.725 Shugart (60) WOR

.784 Fitts (100) WOR #15

.796 Sandlin (44) GRE>POR #10

47. Mata (IL)

52. Hoppe

56. Drohan

 

Draftees:

14. Tolle

23. Cason (SS/3B too)

30. Neely

44. Clarke

45. Tygart

 

Again, this list does not blow anyone away, but to me, it looks like step in the right direction.

 

One can count 30-45 or more pitchers with promise, here.

 

Edited August 19, 2024 by moonslav59

[mvp 78]

Is this the new normal, to develop pitchers with mediocre stuff???

 

That was Bloom’s philosophy. Who are you referencing?

[moonslav59]

That was Bloom’s philosophy. Who are you referencing?

 

Maybe he meant Bloom's was sub mediocre, and Brez is the upgrade.

[moonslav59]

Anthony had a nice game with Woo. 2-3 w 2BB.

Woo won 10-8.

 

POR lost 7-3 and had 3 unearned runs score on Sandlin, and GRE lost 6-3.

 

SAL lost 11-8, as Valera finally had a bad game. Arias went 3-5 w BB.

[mvp 78]

Campbell was promoted to WOO.

[moonslav59]

Campbell was promoted to WOO.

 

Woo-Hoo!

[moonslav59]

The 2025 Woo line-up looks pretty good!

 

1. Mayer S

2. Campbell CF

3. Anthony RF

4. Teel C

5. Meidroth 3B

6. Valdez 2B

7. Gasper/Hickey DH

8. Jordan 1B

9. Sogard/Rosier LF (Maybe Jh Garcia by the end of 2025.)

[mvp 78]

It'll be interesting to see where they push Campbell to. His RHB would be good to rotate in the OF and 2B. His defense is pretty rough for SS at the MLB level.

[mvp 78]

@RedSoxPlayerDev

The Week of Wehunt!

 

Congrats to Blake Wehunt, the South Atlantic League Pitcher of the Week!

[moonslav59]

It'll be interesting to see where they push Campbell to. His RHB would be good to rotate in the OF and 2B. His defense is pretty rough for SS at the MLB level.

 

He could probably be okay in LF, but we have enough of those, already. Maybe CF?

 

I'm not sure he can be a plus at 2B.

[mvp 78]

He could probably be okay in LF, but we have enough of those, already. Maybe CF?

 

I'm not sure he can be a plus at 2B.

 

With Duran and Rafaela, do they need another CFer? They need a RFer, a good 2B, SS, 3B. If Campbell could play RF, he could be a good platoon with Abreu.

[moonslav59]

With Duran and Rafaela, do they need another CFer? They need a RFer, a good 2B, SS, 3B. If Campbell could play RF, he could be a good platoon with Abreu.

 

RF in Fenway is a big challenge, but if Campbell could pull it off, then yes.

 

I like the idea of eventually having Mayer at SS and Story at 2B. That improves the middle IF defense, a lot. Forcing Rafaela to FT CF improves the D, a lot, as well. We can do a lot to improve our D without any additions or hurting the offense by benching better batters.

 

Abreu-Ref in RF is not great. Devers at 3B is who he is. Casas is no wonder on D. Wong is still learning, but we could see a big improvement on D, next year with Story at middle IF and Rafaela in CF FT. Mayer should be better than DHam-Romy-Sogard-Grissom on D. I'm not sure Campbell is, but he has time to work on it.

[mvp 78]

Right now, Campbell is jack of all trades and master of none. His defense is below par all across the diamond. He's athletic enough to figure it out somewhere, but he's just being shuttled around.

[mvp 78]

I forgot we even traded Kavadas.

 

Let's see how he does in the bigs.

 

As of today, he has 6 K's, 0 H's, 2 BB's and a 67% k rate. Only 3 games though.

 

Yorke is batting 350 with 844 OPS (0 HR) in 17 G since being traded.

[moonslav59]

As of today, he has 6 K's, 0 H's, 2 BB's and a 67% k rate. Only 3 games though.

 

Yorke is batting 350 with 844 OPS (0 HR) in 17 G since being traded.

 

Yes, in AAA.

 

I hope they both go on to do well, just not against the Sox.