Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations

[mvp 78]

I do think the Sox have a "window" in mind, and it does not include 2024. Even trading for a top pitcher with 4-5 years of control, essentially "wastes" a year of that control. While I think it would be nice to get a boost for 2024, even if they know a ring is highly improbable, I can at least understand that plan.

 

It sure sucks, for now.

 

I'm also thinking, they probably don't think Anthony, mayer and Teel will all be "in stride" by 2025, so they may be planning on 2026, for all we know.

 

They sure know how to extend a 5 year rebuild plan. That's something they are good at.

 

"So, we're going to trade Mookie this offseason and hope to be good in 6 more years. Everyone ok with that?"

[mvp 78]

And they have plenty of payroll room, 30 or 40 million under the first tax threshold, not to mention 100 million or so behind the Dodgers, Mets and Yankees.

 

It's all a ******** story to cover up what they really want, which is a fatter bottom line for FSG.

 

Cots has them at $46M including the arb raises!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bellhorn04]

Cots has them at $46M including the arb raises!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The 2024 Opening Day payroll number is one thing they can't hide from.

[Old Red]

"So, we're going to trade Mookie this offseason and hope to be good in 6 more years. Everyone ok with that?"

 

One on here could understand if the plan for the Red Sox wasn’t to be good until 2035. Why bother to sign Raffy?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Seems like Crag found some free time and is doing the rounds now.

 

@ChrisCotillo

Asked Craig Breslow if he expects more rotation additions by Opening Day.

 

"I don't believe it makes a ton of sense to sacrifice future wins in favor of exclusively 2024 wins."

 

I didn't go to Yale, but isn't this next season the f***ing future?

[mvp 78]

If they add only $4M going forward, it will equal what the 2023 Colorado Rockies did. Good enough for 15th place in MLB. They'd need to add 10M to leapfrog the White Sox for 14th place. It doesn't seem like they'll be competing with teams in the 220+ range this year.

[mvp 78]

I didn't go to Yale, but isn't this next season the f***ing future?

 

Dave's not here man.

[mvp 78]

One on here could understand if the plan for the Red Sox wasn’t to be good until 2035. Why bother to sign Raffy?

 

Henry's fear of garlic, wooden stakes, etc...

[mvp 78]

The 2024 Opening Day payroll number is one thing they can't hide from.

 

Grim.

[Bellhorn04]

Seems like Crag found some free time and is doing the rounds now.

 

@ChrisCotillo

Asked Craig Breslow if he expects more rotation additions by Opening Day.

 

"I don't believe it makes a ton of sense to sacrifice future wins in favor of exclusively 2024 wins."

 

Apparently that answer was only about trading prospects. Phew.

[mvp 78]

Apparently that answer was only about trading prospects. Phew.

 

You can extend the guys you trade for though unless they just are unwilling to spend at all.

[moonslav59]

"So, we're going to trade Mookie this offseason and hope to be good in 6 more years. Everyone ok with that?"

 

It might be 7.

[notin]

Henry's fear of garlic, wooden stakes, etc...

 

And that’s why he can get away with all this - he doesn’t have to look at himself in the mirror…

[Old Red]

It might be 7.

 

🙈🤭🤮.

[Bellhorn04]

You can extend the guys you trade for though unless they just are unwilling to spend at all.

 

Good point.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

And that’s why he can get away with all this - he doesn’t have to look at himself in the mirror…

 

you gar, ghoul!

[mvp 78]

And that’s why he can get away with all this - he doesn’t have to look at himself in the mirror…

 

He's been a real pain in the neck for sure.

[Hitch]

Apparently that answer was only about trading prospects. Phew.

 

I listened to that podcast. He didn't outright say it, but I thought he (and others tbf) have been taken aback by the cost of some of the trade targets. As I said the other day, there's no 16' Sale out there ready to be moved, yet the prices seem very much to be asking for a return for that sort of calibre.

 

I don't really know how you get around that if you're not developing pitching yourself. They're clearly not looking to sign anyone off the top of the shelf.

 

I guess one option is trade the second level prospects for pitchers still very much unproven.

[notin]

I listened to that podcast. He didn't outright say it, but I thought he (and others tbf) have been taken aback by the cost of some of the trade targets. As I said the other day, there's no 16' Sale out there ready to be moved, yet the prices seem very much to be asking for a return for that sort of calibre.

 

I don't really know how you get around that if you're not developing pitching yourself. They're clearly not looking to sign anyone off the top of the shelf.

 

I guess one option is trade the second level prospects for pitchers still very much unproven.

 

Like Edward Cabrera!

[moonslav59]

I listened to that podcast. He didn't outright say it, but I thought he (and others tbf) have been taken aback by the cost of some of the trade targets. As I said the other day, there's no 16' Sale out there ready to be moved, yet the prices seem very much to be asking for a return for that sort of calibre.

 

I don't really know how you get around that if you're not developing pitching yourself. They're clearly not looking to sign anyone off the top of the shelf.

 

I guess one option is trade the second level prospects for pitchers still very much unproven.

 

I still think we missed the boat on Luis Castillo or Pablo Lopez, but who knows, if those teams wanted any of our prospects.

[Hitch]

Like Edward Cabrera!

 

I'd be very much on board with this. I also think he's probably in the camp of 'we want at least one of your top 3'.

[notin]

I still think we missed the boat on Luis Castillo or Pablo Lopez, but who knows, if those teams wanted any of our prospects.

 

Lopez went for a 2b with a batting title. Miami might not even have been looking for prospects and reportedly want MLB-level controllable hitters.

 

Castillo went for a pretty steep package.

 

The big miss was Zac Gallen, who went for a shortstop universally ranked in the 59-69 range. Of course, the Sox had no prospects ranked higher at that time as their best was Michael Chavis, who was in the 79-85 range on any system than ranked him at all…

[moonslav59]

Lopez went for a 2b with a batting title. Miami might not even have been looking for prospects and reportedly want MLB-level controllable hitters.

 

Castillo went for a pretty steep package.

 

The big miss was Zac Gallen, who went for a shortstop universally ranked in the 59-69 range. Of course, the Sox had no prospects ranked higher at that time as their best was Michael Chavis, who was in the 79-85 range on any system than ranked him at all…

 

I doubt we had anyone to match the Lopez deal, and yes, Castillo cost a lot of talent, but I think he was worth it, and we had top prospects, at that time.

 

Hell, I'd have settled for the Civale trade, at this point.

[notin]

I'd be very much on board with this. I also think he's probably in the camp of 'we want at least one of your top 3'.

 

Hard to say. His MLB track record is pretty weak and he’s basically just a radar gun darling with 5 years of control. Miami offered him for Justin Turner last July, but Bloom got all indecisive.

 

BTV gives him a respectable trade value of 19.8, which is far below Mayer and Anthony, but roughly equal to Teel. I wouldn’t pull that trigger, but I’d move Duran for him. I have my doubts Miami wants Duran, however, as they reportedly in the hunt for a shortstop.

 

Ha-Seong Kim matches up nicely and San Diego desperately needs outfielders and left-handed hitters. But I can’t see them trading Kim right now as they actually open the season playing the Dodgers in Seoul…

[mvp 78]

I listened to that podcast. He didn't outright say it, but I thought he (and others tbf) have been taken aback by the cost of some of the trade targets. As I said the other day, there's no 16' Sale out there ready to be moved, yet the prices seem very much to be asking for a return for that sort of calibre.

 

I don't really know how you get around that if you're not developing pitching yourself. They're clearly not looking to sign anyone off the top of the shelf.

 

I guess one option is trade the second level prospects for pitchers still very much unproven.

 

The price tag for Dylan Cease was just dumb. At least be reasonable about the guy you're trading.

[mvp 78]

I'd be very much on board with this. I also think he's probably in the camp of 'we want at least one of your top 3'.

 

Pass. I wouldn't trade Rafaela straight up for him. Yorke? Sure.

[mvp 78]

Hard to say. His MLB track record is pretty weak and he’s basically just a radar gun darling with 5 years of control. Miami offered him for Justin Turner last July, but Bloom got all indecisive.

 

BTV gives him a respectable trade value of 19.8, which is far below Mayer and Anthony, but roughly equal to Teel. I wouldn’t pull that trigger, but I’d move Duran for him. I have my doubts Miami wants Duran, however, as they reportedly in the hunt for a shortstop.

 

Ha-Seong Kim matches up nicely and San Diego desperately needs outfielders and left-handed hitters. But I can’t see them trading Kim right now as they actually open the season playing the Dodgers in Seoul…

 

My guess is that it wasn't a straight up Turner for Cabrera swap and that the Sox would have had to throw something else in there.

[mvp 78]

https://985thesportshub.com/listicle/milliken-kyle-boddy-joins-red-sox-pitching-development-makeover/

 

If there’s been one clear message sent by the Red Sox in the last few months, it’s been that the organization’s pitching pipeline needed a makeover that would erase almost two decades of shortcomings. That started with the hiring of new CBO Craig Breslow, who was the face of the Cubs overhaul in pitching development over the last few seasons. Since being brought aboard, he has wasted no time beefing up the pitching infrastructure, with the likes of Andrew Bailey, Justin Willard, and now the founder of Driveline, Kyle Boddy, joining the mix.

 

Boddy, who will be serving as a Special Advisor to Breslow for the upcoming season, will be assisting in Research & Development on the pitching side of things. He’s become a titan in that space since Driveline was founded in 2007, bringing a data-driven approach to every aspect of training pitchers and hitters.

 

It’s clearly been a major success, as Boddy has left his mark on the sport in a big way while doing consultant work for a number of clubs and other professional sports leagues. He even took a full-time role with the Reds in October of 2019 as the director of pitching initiatives and pitching coordinator, with the goal of overhauling their minor league pitching development. There were other teams chasing him at the time, and while Boddy ended up leaving the organization after 2021 when his contract expired, it takes a quick look at the Reds rotation of promising young starters to see his impact.

 

During Boddy’s time with Reds, their minor-league arms went from the 6th-worst xERA to the 6th-best out of 30 organizations in just two years time. That played a big part in their farm system skyrocketing from 28 to 8 in Baseball America’s rankings.

 

There’s no denying that Boddy cracked the code for pitchers adding velocity, which was shown in a 2018 study by the American Sports Medicine Institute. It was led by former Red Sox athletic trainer and physical therapist Mike Reinold (fired after 2012), who cited that a weighted ball program could lead to a significant increase in how hard a pitcher throws (3.3% increase in this study of HS arms), but also resulted in a higher injury rate of 24%. What many get confused though is that Reinold wasn’t saying that the training itself was a problem, but how it was implemented.

 

Boddy didn’t deny those findings, but emphasized his training was not only about velocity but efficiency, which was why he believed his system was able to keep guys healthy through biomechanical analysis and proper rest. Reinold also included in his study that he used weighted ball programs himself in his own work with athletes. As pitching injuries continue to spike in baseball though, trying to throw hard has become a polarizing topic in the sport.

 

In recent years, Driveline employees have infiltrated baseball in a number of ways, even inside the Red Sox organization. Director of Hitting Development and Program Design, Jason Ochart, Roving Complex Hitting Coach, John Soteropulos, and Coordinator for Player Development, David Besky, were all hired by Chaim Bloom. In the last week, Breslow hired JP Fasone as the new hitting coach for the Greenville Drive.

[moonslav59]

I don't agree with all of the BTV numbers, but if any GM thinks these guys are worth nearly this much, I'd kick the tires on trades for a SP:

 

34 Duran

22 Houck

13 Yorke

10 Schreiber

8 EValdez

4.4 Walter

0.8 Mata (out of options)

 

BTV accepted this 3 team trade:

 

To BOS: E Cabrera (5 yrs)

 

To MIA: H-S Kim (1 yr) + Blaze Jordan

 

To SDP: Rafaela + Walter

 

I like this accepted trade:

 

To BOS: Braxton Garrett (5 yrs)

 

To MIA: Duran (5 yrs), Houck (4 yrs) and Jordan

 

 

[Hitch]

Hard to say. His MLB track record is pretty weak and he’s basically just a radar gun darling with 5 years of control. Miami offered him for Justin Turner last July, but Bloom got all indecisive.

 

I've heard this a few times. That can't be true, surely? If so, he deserved the sack for this alone.