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Over their prize free agent acquisition of this winter -- the one they'll want to run out there to show the world how fixed he is -- the guy they signed for more AAV than any other pitcher contract since the Dombrowski days?

 

It's really hard for me to get past the fact that Giolito is our biggest investment in the rotation in the last 5 offseasons.

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I think this team is all about 2025 or maybe even 2026, and while I am not as optimistic as I once was on JH "splurging," again, at some point, I do think he will spend more when he feels we have a better chance than we do now.

 

I wish he'd just come out and called it a 5 year rebuild in 2020, had some massive sell-off and maybe we'd be in year one of top competitiveness, by now.

 

The Gio signing just looks like another lame attempt at fooling the fanbase and keeping season tickets and NESN viewership from falling further.

 

Sure, "it's early, still," but this is pathetic. Even a Stroman signing barely moves the needle, to me.

 

Nothing short of a Monty or Snell signing or a top prospects trade for a solid #1 ot top #2 type SP'er is a punt. We should be able to do both and actually have a shot at 2024, without damaging our hops for 2025 and or 2026 and beyond.

 

It's very hard to find a shred of optimism to grab onto, at this point, except maybe saying in January of 2024, "Wait until next year!"

 

(Then, if nothing changes, next year, wait, again?)

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It's really hard for me to get past the fact that Giolito is our biggest investment in the rotation in the last 5 offseasons.

 

You only typed that because Lucas, himself, said that no other teams would even give him a phone call.

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I think this team is all about 2025 or maybe even 2026, and while I am not as optimistic as I once was on JH "splurging," again, at some point, I do think he will spend more when he feels we have a better chance than we do now.

 

I wish he'd just come out and called it a 5 year rebuild in 2020, had some massive sell-off and maybe we'd be in year one of top competitiveness, by now.

 

The Gio signing just looks like another lame attempt at fooling the fanbase and keeping season tickets and NESN viewership from falling further.

 

Sure, "it's early, still," but this is pathetic. Even a Stroman signing barely moves the needle, to me.

 

Nothing short of a Monty or Snell signing or a top prospects trade for a solid #1 ot top #2 type SP'er is a punt. We should be able to do both and actually have a shot at 2024, without damaging our hops for 2025 and or 2026 and beyond.

 

It's very hard to find a shred of optimism to grab onto, at this point, except maybe saying in January of 2024, "Wait until next year!"

 

(Then, if nothing changes, next year, wait, again?)

 

The more years they can get away with this shitsham, the more they'll want to do it.

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Jacksonianmarch is also right every so often, but I dislike him too.

 

I think I'd rather have a beer with wacko jacko. Maybe.

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Yes Lester, Mookie, Bogey, and now. Not a good look at all. All the blame goes to the top. Even Shaughnessy just said he sees Bloom in a different light now.

 

And that list is just judging their own players. They have often misjudged FA classes and have failed to bring in their targets.

 

Unless saying things like "Jose Abreu is our prime target" is just a smoke screen.

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The more years they can get away with this shitsham, the more they'll want to do it.

 

I wonder how ticket sales are going so far?

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I think this team is all about 2025 or maybe even 2026, and while I am not as optimistic as I once was on JH "splurging," again, at some point, I do think he will spend more when he feels we have a better chance than we do now.

 

I wish he'd just come out and called it a 5 year rebuild in 2020, had some massive sell-off and maybe we'd be in year one of top competitiveness, by now.

 

The Gio signing just looks like another lame attempt at fooling the fanbase and keeping season tickets and NESN viewership from falling further.

 

Sure, "it's early, still," but this is pathetic. Even a Stroman signing barely moves the needle, to me.

 

Nothing short of a Monty or Snell signing or a top prospects trade for a solid #1 ot top #2 type SP'er is a punt. We should be able to do both and actually have a shot at 2024, without damaging our hops for 2025 and or 2026 and beyond.

 

It's very hard to find a shred of optimism to grab onto, at this point, except maybe saying in January of 2024, "Wait until next year!"

 

(Then, if nothing changes, next year, wait, again?)

 

25-26 will surely be another moving target.

 

Can't wait to root for 2027 at some point.

 

Giolito is about kicking the can down the road at some point and has zip to do with ratings.

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The majority of FA's that had 2 fWAR last season have signed elsewhere.

 

From the guys that are left, who would the Sox realistically sign that could make this year not a bridge year?

 

Montgomery

Bellinger

Snell

Chapman

Stroman

Kershaw

Belt

Clevinger

JD

 

Theories about "just trade for a guy" will not be allowed due to BTV hate speech.

 

Montgomery.

 

I agree with the small crowd on the Internet that thinks Snell looks like Sid from Ice Age, and it’s just too distracting…

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"Once again."

 

That has happened every offseason going back to at least Mookie Betts if not to Lester and beyond. :(

 

It's just not acceptable for these SMART people.

 

they need more VPs. LOL.

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How many Red Sox assistant GM's does it take to unscrew a lightbulb?

 

In his first press conference, Crag specifically shouted out Toboni as someone in the FO that he liked. Maybe he's just elevating the voices that he wants to hear?

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Montgomery.

 

I agree with the small crowd on the Internet that thinks Snell looks like Sid from Ice Age, and it’s just too distracting…

 

"Realistically sign." Sox would need to dump a few contracts to do that!

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The more years they can get away with this shitsham, the more they'll want to do it.

 

They are still making tons of money, but their NESN share has dropped from a high of 12 in 2007 to 3.

 

While other teams saw attendance increase, last year, ours went down.

 

Teams can still make money like this, but the old way was working, too.

 

I'm not sure the value of the team will keep increasing like it has since JH & Co, bought it over 20 years ago for $750M. It's apparently worth about $4.5B, now, and these guys are tightening their belts, and hiding from the public eye.

 

I'm calling them the "Sham Turtles," until they show me otherwise.

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"Realistically sign." Sox would need to dump a few contracts to do that!

 

That seems like the truth.

 

They need to trade Yoshi and maybe even Jansen to sign Monty.

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In his first press conference, Crag specifically shouted out Toboni as someone in the FO that he liked. Maybe he's just elevating the voices that he wants to hear?

 

Can Toboni rassle Henry into unthawing his wallet?

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They are still making tons of money, but their NESN share has dropped from a high of 12 in 2007 to 3.

 

While other teams saw attendance increase, last year, ours went down.

 

Teams can still make money like this, but the old way was working, too.

 

I'm not sure the value of the team will keep increasing like it has since JH & Co, bought it over 20 years ago for $750M. It's apparently worth about $4.5B, now, and these guys are tightening their belts, and hiding from the public eye.

 

I'm calling them the "Sham Turtles," until they show me otherwise.

 

Telling lies again, moon?

 

2023 - 32,989 AVG

2022 - 32,408 AVG

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Can Toboni rassle Henry into unthawing his wallet?

 

Not sure his wife can either. She had to go out and become the damn CEO of the globe for spending money.

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But why?

 

Because what the team is doing doesn't make any sense. Don't be surprised if it comes out in a couple months that Henry's warring with the minority owners or is about to divorce his reptilian mate.

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Because what the team is doing doesn't make any sense. Don't be surprised if it comes out in a couple months that Henry's warring with the minority owners or is about to divorce his reptilian mate.

 

Henry ain't right, that's for sure.

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I mean, unlike what y'all are saying, this team doesn't have a poverty payroll, as they will exceed 200 mill for next year. But something doesn't feel right about this offseason. This team has always gone straight at roster needs, even if on mid-range acquisitions. But this roster could contend with continued growth from some young players, a righty power bat, and some SP. All they've done is Giolito and Grissom
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Telling lies again, moon?

 

2023 - 32,989 AVG

2022 - 32,408 AVG

 

Not a lie, if I did not intentionally mislead anyone.

 

I heard it on a podcast somewhere. I guess I passed on faulty information.

 

My apologies.

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Because what the team is doing doesn't make any sense. Don't be surprised if it comes out in a couple months that Henry's warring with the minority owners or is about to divorce his reptilian mate.

 

She doesn't want to do coffin play anymore?

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I mean, unlike what y'all are saying, this team doesn't have a poverty payroll, as they will exceed 200 mill for next year. But something doesn't feel right about this offseason. This team has always gone straight at roster needs, even if on mid-range acquisitions. But this roster could contend with continued growth from some young players, a righty power bat, and some SP. All they've done is Giolito and Grissom

 

It's not a poverty payroll overall. It's a midmarket payroll like the Colorado Rockies. They are in purgatory. The problem is that the fans aren't paying midmarket prices.

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Not a lie, if I did not intentionally mislead anyone.

 

I heard it on a podcast somewhere. I guess I passed on faulty information.

 

My apologies.

 

Exhibit A for there being too many baseball podcasts.

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