9/5/23 Red Sox continue with Rays in Tropicana , 6:40 EDT

[moonslav59]

Tough loss, but there's always tomorrow.

 

Too many tough losses.

[illinoisredsox]

Well that walk didn’t help.

 

So instead of 8-6, they lose 7-6.

[redsoxrules]

He saved 30 games this year, they’re asking him to do something he hasn’t done all year and he’s garbage?

 

Jansen has been babied which is why he's had a decent season. He's not that great when he has to pitch in consecutive games.

[moonslav59]

Coulda gained a game on TEX.

[Jasonbay44]

Jansen has been babied which is why he's had a decent season. He's not that great when he has to pitch in consecutive games.

 

He’s better than Matt Barnes

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

He saved 30 games this year, they’re asking him to do something he hasn’t done all year and he’s garbage?

 

 

Why bother? We live in a country of alternate facts.

[moonslav59]

The J-J bookends did us in.

 

Jacques & Jansen.

 

The pen in between did great: 5 IP, 2H, 0 ER, 3BB, 6K

 

[moonslav59]

Why bother? We live in a country of alternate facts.

 

Makes me want to avoid the game threads, again.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Jansen has been babied which is why he's had a decent season. He's not that great when he has to pitch in consecutive games.

 

With Cora as manager all the SOX players are babied. This was Kenley's 3rd appearance in a row, not a usual thing for closers.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Makes me want to avoid the game threads, again.

 

C'mon, MOON. You had a couple of good zingers tonight. The season's almost over and good zingers are hard to find.

[redsoxrules]

He’s better than Matt Barnes

 

Anyone is better than Matt Barns.

They should go after Josh Hader this off season.

[moonslav59]

Jansen is garbage. If he was any good, the Dodgers would have kept him. We just pulled his sorry ass out of the recycle bin.

 

Dodgers:

40 Saves

14 Blown Saves (7 by Graterol)

74%

 

Red Sox

40 Saves

13 Blown Saves (only 4 by Jansen)

k75%

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Too many tough losses.

 

Defense has been a factor, but imho, lack of timely hitting has been the biggest factor.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Anyone is better than Matt Barns.

They should go after Josh Hader this off season.

 

Maybe Bra Man.

[redsoxrules]

What's Jansen numbers this year when pitching on consecutive games? I can't seem to get numbers for this.

[illinoisredsox]

Dodgers:

40 Saves

14 Blown Saves (7 by Graterol)

74%

 

Red Sox

40 Saves

13 Blown Saves (only 4 by Jansen)

k75%

 

Pretty sure the Sox have the fewest in the majors this season. At worst, they have the second fewest. I think they are best in save percentage or again, maybe second.

[moonslav59]

Defense has been a factor, but imho, lack of time hitting has been the biggest factor.

 

Yes. Bases loaded and no outs.

 

How many times, this year?

 

OKay, I checked. Can't belive we are batting .324 with bases jacked. (Must be in 9-2 games.)

[moonslav59]

Pretty sure the Sox have the fewest in the majors this season. At worst, they have the second fewest. I think they are best in save percentage or again, maybe second.

 

To many judge on a player's last AB or appearance. Some on one pitch.

[moonslav59]

Maybe Bra Man.

 

Just replace clowns like Jacques.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The J-J bookends did us in.

 

Jacques & Jansen.

 

The pen in between did great: 5 IP, 2H, 0 ER, 3BB, 6K

 

 

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Edited September 6, 2023 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Yes. Bases loaded and no outs.

 

How many times, this year?

 

OKay, I checked. Can't belive we are batting .324 with bases jacked. (Must be in 9-2 games.)

 

Trust your eyes more than stats.

[illinoisredsox]

To many judge on a player's last AB or appearance. Some on one pitch.

 

That’s for sure.

[illinoisredsox]

Don't understand why Martin, the SOX best reliever, couldn't have tried to finish the game tonight. IMHO, the odds were better using Martin than a 3rd straight appearance by Jansen. WTF, Cora does what Cora does and I would also have him take some responsiblity for 'tough' losses.

 

Martin pitched the 8th. You want him to pitch the 9th, 10th and 11th as well?

 

Schreiber did the job in the 9th and 10th.

 

Crawford going less than 4 was a killer.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Martin pitched the 8th. You want him to pitch the 9th, 10th and 11th as well?

 

Schreiber did the job in the 9th and 10th.

 

Crawford going less than 4 was a killer.

 

I f'd up. I thought Martin pitched the 10th. I wish I could blame drinking for my confusion, but I'm sober as Aaron Judge. I will delete that post immediately. Thanks for correcting my idiocy.

Edited September 6, 2023 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Martin pitched the 8th. You want him to pitch the 9th, 10th and 11th as well?

 

Schreiber did the job in the 9th and 10th.

 

Crawford going less than 4 was a killer.

 

SOX starters going deep (6 Innings now of days) is the exception, not the rule. The BP has been unfairly maligned, mainly because of inept starting pitching. Bloom has a ton of work to do this offseason. Hope he's up to it.

[Duran Is The Man]

Just replace clowns like Jacques.

 

exactly. this guy has been crap since the day he showed up. this POS makes Barnsey and Bra man look good.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Just replace clowns like Jacques.

 

How can you say that?

 

Joe Jokes threw a two-hitter: Lowe and Paredes, back-to-back (upon review, it may have been back-to-foot...)

 

Who says such clutch moments are not repeatable... Who says such clutch moments are not repeatable...

[moonslav59]

exactly. this guy has been crap since the day he showed up. this POS makes Barnsey and Bra man look good.

 

We've had a merry-go-round of carnival clowns, all year.

 

Our top 6-7 RPs have been ring leaders and strongmen. The bottom 7-8 have been side- show freaks.

[Bellhorn04]

We've had a merry-go-round of carnival clowns, all year.

 

Our top 6-7 RPs have been ring leaders and strongmen. The bottom 7-8 have been side- show freaks.

 

And when you have so many short starts from the rotation you get way too many performances by the latter.

[mvp 78]

And when you have so many short starts from the rotation you get way too many performances by the latter.

 

The problem definitely resides in the rotation first and foremost. The worst two guys in your bullpen aren't going to tank your season.