5/31 Reds @ SOX 7:10PM ET

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

It would interesting to know what % of starts in MLB go more than 5 innings. I'm guessing it's less than 40%.

 

 

In 2022 MLB starters averaged 4.57 innings.

[FredLynn]

Watching this team is like having a full body toothache sometimes

[vegasbob]

Every assessment of pitching vs hitting emphasizes Strike 1 as a major differentiator in the AB outcome. Any pitcher looking for a nice career ( 5years or more) must have control and command to overcome the situations they find themselves in. When you get a clean inning start, like Crawford just did, then you cannot walk the first 2 guys. Maybe he should have pitched last night.

 

Nothing a DP wouldn't cure

[vegasbob]

3-2 with 2 outs in the 6th . Both runs scored are walks. Crawford pulled, so now both Crawdad and Winck are burned in the same game. But no complaints because this one is the one to win . It's the one the Sox are playing.

[vegasbob]

Winckowski reinforces the point about throwing strikes or apparent strikes out of the hand. The same guy he K'ed to end the 6th, hit the Grannie last night

[Nick]

I am wonderin why not pitch Winckowski at the start?

 

We need to win this game. Up 3-1, let Winckowski pitch 3 innings then our closer?

 

Now we have wasted 2 long guys.

 

Do our people have any clue running a baseball team?

[moonslav59]

I am wonderin why not pitch Winckowski at the start?

 

We need to win this game. Up 3-1, let Winckowski pitch 3 innings then our closer?

 

Now we have wasted 2 long guys.

 

Do our people have any clue running a baseball team?

 

Crawford has been damn good.

 

I think the idea was he'd be damn good, tonight, and we could use Wink, tomorrow. Maybe the match-ups looked better for Crawford, but it just did not work out.

 

Maybe our pen mounds are the wrong height.

[Maxbialystock]

Can't help but think about Cora's postgame analysis for tonight. He will assure us Paxton had a solid start--unlike that dirtbag last night--because the pitched 5 magnificent innings vs. Bello's spindly, worthless 4 innings last night. Both gave up 1 run, but Paxton is the ace, the star, the gutsy veteran. And Bello's just a rookie hoping to hang on.

 

Bello, having watched Crawford screw up royally, can find consolation in the notion that Crawford would have stunk as much last night as he did tonight--and would certainly have been no better than Garza.

 

The real difference between last night and tonight? Tonight the lineup scored 3 runs for Paxton vs. 0 runs for Bello.

[illinoisredsox]

I am wonderin why not pitch Winckowski at the start?

 

We need to win this game. Up 3-1, let Winckowski pitch 3 innings then our closer?

 

Now we have wasted 2 long guys.

 

Do our people have any clue running a baseball team?

 

 

That's pure 20-20 hindsight.

 

Was Cora supposed to just know that Crawford wouldn't have it tonight?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I am wonderin why not pitch Winckowski at the start?

 

We need to win this game. Up 3-1, let Winckowski pitch 3 innings then our closer?

 

Now we have wasted 2 long guys.

 

Do our people have any clue running a baseball team?

 

Our people do, but we're not so sure about the guys who run the Red Sox...

[illinoisredsox]

Our people do, but we're not so sure about the guys who run the Red Sox...

 

Funny how I see exactly zero posts by any of our armchair managers criticizing going to Crawford when he first came in.

[moonslav59]

Our people do, but we're not so sure about the guys who run the Red Sox...

 

You always crack me up.

[vegasbob]

Funny how I see exactly zero posts by any of our armchair managers criticizing going to Crawford when he first came in.

 

There is no reason to object to Crawford coming in when he did. But there is plenty of room to question Crawford's ability to throw strikes ( or equivalents) if that is his job as a middle reliever . Cora did what he had to do if he was actually managing this game and didn't hesitate. Crawford did not have it, and AC saw that the game was at risk. He didn't know Winck would be successful, but he sensed that Crawford was not right.

[moonslav59]

Funny how I see exactly zero posts by any of our armchair managers criticizing going to Crawford when he first came in.

 

Now, they'll bitch about brining Wink in, too.

[FredLynn]

Here comes the hammer. We will need at least six runs to win this.

[FredLynn]

This team is just awful. Can’t really blame them though. They have very little talent.

[vegasbob]

Now, they'll bitch about brining Wink in, too.

 

Damnable, incompetent Winck , and Devers too, can nobody here play this game ( C. Stengel) . LOL

[Maxbialystock]

Funny how I see exactly zero posts by any of our armchair managers criticizing going to Crawford when he first came in.

 

I agree with Cora's moves last night and with the ones tonight.

 

The problem is that bullpen stunk last night without Winck and Crawford and stinks again tonight with Winck and Crawford.

 

Now 5-3, Reds. Any bets on whether the their bullpen shuts our lineup down?

Edited June 1, 2023 by Maxbialystock

[vegasbob]

Go for the DP, give up the tie, screw Paxton out of a win after his excellent start . Cora will never manage again at the MLB level. Strictly AAAA thinking. Winkc looks like a jerk giving up the lead and allowing an HR. Just a mistake on pitch location says Wake. A true f***up on the error and the HR

[mvp 78]

Winchokeski

[vegasbob]

Here comes the hammer. We will need at least six runs to win this.

 

You are now very much correct ! It will take 6 to win

[FredLynn]

No talent. Maybe in a couple of years they will be competitive again.

[FredLynn]

You are now very much correct ! It will take 6 to win

 

I saw this game yesterday

[Dipre]

Bad defense is killing this team.

[FredLynn]

Bad defense is killing this team.

 

And bad pitching and bad offense….I think that covers it

[Maxbialystock]

There is no reason to object to Crawford coming in when he did. But there is plenty of room to question Crawford's ability to throw strikes ( or equivalents) if that is his job as a middle reliever . Cora did what he had to do if he was actually managing this game and didn't hesitate. Crawford did not have it, and AC saw that the game was at risk. He didn't know Winck would be successful, but he sensed that Crawford was not right.

 

Winck and Crawford have both been good many times this season. Just not tonight.

[Dipre]

And bad pitching and bad offense….I think that covers it

 

3 runs should be plenty against one of the worst offenses in the league.

[Maxbialystock]

Go for the DP, give up the tie, screw Paxton out of a win after his excellent start . Cora will never manage again at the MLB level. Strictly AAAA thinking. Winkc looks like a jerk giving up the lead and allowing an HR. Just a mistake on pitch location says Wake. A true f***up on the error and the HR

 

Every manager in the history of MLB would have gone for the double play with the bases loaded and no one freaking out.

[illinoisredsox]

Go for the DP, give up the tie, screw Paxton out of a win after his excellent start . Cora will never manage again at the MLB level. Strictly AAAA thinking. Winkc looks like a jerk giving up the lead and allowing an HR. Just a mistake on pitch location says Wake. A true f***up on the error and the HR

 

Bases loaded nobody out you try and get out of the inning minimizing the damage. Turning 2 is the correct play there. In 20-20 hindsight, it saved 2 runs. Get one out at the plate at the plate and the homer isn't a 2-run shot, it's a grand slam.

[Dipre]

Every manager in the history of MLB would have gone for the double play with the bases loaded and no one freaking out.

 

He did say he'd be drunk.