Yankees 2023 Season Thread

[dgalehouse]

I am now willing to go way out on the proverbial limb and make this shocking observation: Without Aaron Judge the Yankees are not a playoff team.

[jacksonianmarch]

They’re not a .500 team without Aaron Judge. They’re 11 games over with him, 4 games under without him. If Judge needs surgery, just fix it now and affix him as the DH next year. His bat is legendary and we cannot afford to lose it.

 

I honestly hope the yanks don’t go apeshit at the deadline. They need too much to contend.

[jacksonianmarch]

Rodon struggling to locate the slider. Fastball is good, but not when the hitters know it's coming

[jacksonianmarch]

Casey celebrating the fact that the game started with two runs. Then we went 5 innings of shutout ball against a guy with a 6+ ERA in Colorado. This team sucks

[moonslav59]

Won't be long, now.

 

Yanks in Sox rearview mirror is a pretty sight.

[jacksonianmarch]

They all aged overnight. Every veteran slugger minus Judge turned into a pumpkin overnight. They can’t hit. Pitchers try to be perfect and can’t. They’re about to implode

[jacksonianmarch]

This might be just what the doctor ordered. Fire Cash and Boone. The pitching staff has real good bones for next year. Cole-Rodon-Schmidt-Cortes-German. Roll with them. The pen is deep as hell. Judge slots into a split RF/DH role. You roll with Volpe at SS. Every other position gets revamped. Donaldson is gone. DJ goes to super sub and maybe he can find his swing again. Maybe you re-sign Bader. You’re stuck with Stanton, he can be the other half of the RF/DH combo with Judge. You get 2 legit middle of the order hitters around Judge. Maybe one other kid hits it off and you roll. Right now, the only guy worth watching on offense is Volpe because you hope he starts to show his talent. The rest of the lineup is trash. I’d deal Torres for anything and promote Peraza for 2b. f***, this offense is broken. It was broken going into the season and they did nothing to address it

[jacksonianmarch]

Pitiful stay alert

 

Yankees have been shutout by the Colorado bullpen over 9.2IP in the last two games. 9.2IP 4H 2BB 10K. This is the 4th worst bullpen in baseball playing in coors field.

[Dipre]

Your tears nourish me.

[mvp 78]

Overall, this team should be even better with the more balanced schedule. The AL East was a buzzsaw and they won 99 games. They should eclipse 100 with the other divisions having very little depth and the Yanks not seeing their own division as much. The biggest question will come in the POs. Can the team arrive there with their stars not banged up. Can they have some jobs be taken by hot shot kids. Can they hit now that the shift is dead? Can they make enough contact against dominant pitchers? Lots of questions, but still should be a good year for the boys in the Bronx. Go Yanks

 

You liked the team before the year started. Can't blame Cash. You liked the menu!

[dgalehouse]

The Yankee lineup is fundamentally flawed. Except for Rizzo, they are almost entirely right handed hitters. Very poor roster construction, especially for Yankee Stadium. Their championship teams of the past always had a number of left handed hitters . Why did Cashman get away from that ? Makes no sense.

[Thunder]

The Yankee lineup is fundamentally flawed. Except for Rizzo, they are almost entirely right handed hitters. Very poor roster construction, especially for Yankee Stadium. Their championship teams of the past always had a number of left handed hitters . Why did Cashman get away from that ? Makes no sense.

 

Raul Ibanez and Hideki Matsui carried them in 2009

[dgalehouse]

Raul Ibanez and Hideki Matsui carried them in 2009

 

I don't remember Ibanez being on that team. But they were loaded with left handed and switch hitters. I think Jeter and A-Rod were the only right handed guys in the lineup.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Cashman has gone too far with the run prevention players. He went all in on run prevention and sacrificed offense. That's one reason why he should be fired, but he won't be fired because Hal doesn't really care about baseball and Cashman is in complete control of the organization.

 

The left side of the Yankees infield is ugly, with Donaldson who looks washed up, and Volope who can't hit or field (he belongs at 2b). Rizzo looks washed up, ditto for Lemahieu. We also can't overlook how the Stanton trade backfired on the Yankees. The Yankees totally took advantage of the Marlins, gave them nothing for Stanton. At the time, I thought the commissioner should have blocked the trade. The irony is that Stanton turned into a bad player on a loaded contract, someone who can't field, can't run, doesn't stay healthy, and is extremely inconsistent at the plate.

 

But the Judge situation is even worse. He gets paid almost 400 million (or whatever he was paid) and he can't play through a toe injury? And this is the captain of the team? If this happened to Judge last year, you can be certain he would have played through it and earned the big bucks. But now that he has all of the riches in the world locked up, the loser won't even play through a toe injury. Judge = loser.

 

The Yankees are a complete mess. There is no easy fix. They basically need to rebuild, but Cashman isn't the guy to lead the rebuild.

 

The firing of the hitting coach has turned the Yankees into a joke in the eyes of many including many people in baseball. The idea that the hitting coach is to blame for this mess shows you how low Cashman will go to save his own reputation. And then they hire the low IQ moron in Sean Casey who can't figure anything out. I would think that Boone is next to go if the Yankees don't make the playoffs. Cashman will need another fall guy at the end of the season.

Edited July 18, 2023 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Fan_since_Boggs]

There were a lot of steroids guys on that 2009 team including A-Rod, Cano, and Pettitte. That team didn't win without cheating.

[Dipre]

Cashman has gone too far with the run prevention players. He went all in on run prevention and sacrificed offense. That's one reason why he should be fired, but he won't be fired because Hal doesn't really care about baseball and Cashman is in complete control of the organization.

 

The left side of the Yankees infield is ugly, with Donaldson who looks washed up, and Volope who can't hit or field (he belongs at 2b). Rizzo looks washed up, ditto for Lemahieu. We also can't overlook how the Stanton trade backfired on the Yankees. The Yankees totally took advantage of the Marlins, gave them nothing for Stanton. At the time, I thought the commissioner should have blocked the trade. The irony is that Stanton turned into a bad player on a loaded contract, someone who can't field, can't run, doesn't stay healthy, and is extremely inconsistent at the plate.

 

But the Judge situation is even worse. He gets paid almost 400 million (or whatever he was paid) and he can't play through a toe injury? And this is the captain of the team? If this happened to Judge last year, you can be certain he would have played through it and earned the big bucks. But now that he has all of the riches in the world locked up, the loser won't even play through a toe injury. Judge = loser.

 

The Yankees are a complete mess. There is no easy fix. They basically need to rebuild, but Cashman isn't the guy to lead the rebuild.

 

The firing of the hitting coach has turned the Yankees into a joke in the eyes of many including many people in baseball. The idea that the hitting coach is to blame for this mess shows you how low Cashman will go to save his own reputation. And then they hire the low IQ moron in Sean Casey who can't figure anything out. I would think that Boone is next to go if the Yankees don't make the playoffs. Cashman will need another fall guy at the end of the season.

 

Man, tell us how you really feel.....

[moonslav59]

Rear view mirror!

 

I love the sound of that!

[mvp 78]

Raul Ibanez and Hideki Matsui carried them in 2009

 

Leaders in OPS+

Tex

ARod

Jeter

Posada

[mvp 78]

Cashman has gone too far with the run prevention players. He went all in on run prevention and sacrificed offense. That's one reason why he should be fired, but he won't be fired because Hal doesn't really care about baseball and Cashman is in complete control of the organization.

 

The left side of the Yankees infield is ugly, with Donaldson who looks washed up, and Volope who can't hit or field (he belongs at 2b). Rizzo looks washed up, ditto for Lemahieu. We also can't overlook how the Stanton trade backfired on the Yankees. The Yankees totally took advantage of the Marlins, gave them nothing for Stanton. At the time, I thought the commissioner should have blocked the trade. The irony is that Stanton turned into a bad player on a loaded contract, someone who can't field, can't run, doesn't stay healthy, and is extremely inconsistent at the plate.

 

But the Judge situation is even worse. He gets paid almost 400 million (or whatever he was paid) and he can't play through a toe injury? And this is the captain of the team? If this happened to Judge last year, you can be certain he would have played through it and earned the big bucks. But now that he has all of the riches in the world locked up, the loser won't even play through a toe injury. Judge = loser.

 

The Yankees are a complete mess. There is no easy fix. They basically need to rebuild, but Cashman isn't the guy to lead the rebuild.

 

The firing of the hitting coach has turned the Yankees into a joke in the eyes of many including many people in baseball. The idea that the hitting coach is to blame for this mess shows you how low Cashman will go to save his own reputation. And then they hire the low IQ moron in Sean Casey who can't figure anything out. I would think that Boone is next to go if the Yankees don't make the playoffs. Cashman will need another fall guy at the end of the season.

 

Cashman is the only consistent thing the Yankees have. They have a good farm and have been a good MLB team for decades under him. Moving on from him would be dumb IMO.

[bkzwhitestrican]

There's still time to turn the season around. The pitching is fine overall (though the bullpen has been overworked and has shown signs of cracks recently). But relying on a bunch of past their prime hitters to suddenly start playing better is unlikely and has been producing miserable results. The fact that they're in this position where all it takes is one injury to Judge to derail the team is a testament to the poor roster construction, specifically on the offense. I'm kind of torn on rooting for them improve at the deadline or selling, since they do have the pitching to win in a postseason series but there are so many holes on the offense. If they keep on losing these winnable series against bad teams I think that should give them their deadline answer though.

[Thunder]

Leaders in OPS+

Tex

ARod

Jeter

Posada

 

I meant in the playoffs

[Thunder]

My best friend is a diehard Yankees fan, more of a Yankees fan than I am a Sox fan. I told him this at some point on Sunday. If you are the Yankees and you finish behind the Red Sox in the standings, or even worse, miss out on the playoffs to the Red Sox, you have no choice but to fire Cashman and Boone. Look at the talent on the Red Sox roster on paper before the season, and look at the Yankees. The Red Sox have had just as many, if not more, key injuries than the Yankees. There's no excuse for the Yankees finishing last

[jacksonianmarch]

Last year, everything was clicking until we lost DJ and some of the older guys sputtered to the end. We had a chance to add impact players and we chose to go second tier and it bit us in the ass. This year, the old guys are still sputtering, we lost our ace and our pitching staff has been decimated by injury. There’s no fixing it for this year. I implore Cashman not to go for one year fixes. If he’s gonna get guys who are impactful, get them for 2024.

[moonslav59]

Until you guys stop adding injury prone players, every season will be a roll of the dice.

[Bellhorn04]

Cashman has made some horrendous moves the last few years, and he hasn't made very many good ones at all. Considering that the team has one World Series appearance since 2003, it's a wonder he still has his job.

[moonslav59]

Cashman has made some horrendous moves the last few years, and he hasn't made very many good ones at all. Considering that the team has one World Series appearance since 2003, it's a wonder he still has his job.

 

Some tend to value never finishing in last place more than rings. We see that with Sox fans, too.

 

No losing record in umteen years is one feather- maybe the only one remaining.

[mvp 78]

https://twitter.com/TalkinBaseball_/status/1681812803600916482?s=20

[Dipre]

Carlos Rodon is now my favorite Yankee, both sucking and being an ******* to fans even though he's making a mountain of money. Love to see it.

[jacksonianmarch]

Has Jack McDowell written all over it

[jacksonianmarch]

Trevino out for the year.