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@PeteAbe

#RedSox confirm a

@JeffPassan

report that Rafael Devers avoided arbitration with a one-year deal.

 

The $17.5M deal is a hike from $11.2 last season and a bit higher than projections.

 

That they got this done would suggest further talks on a long-term extension are possible.

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@PeteAbe

#RedSox confirm a

@JeffPassan

report that Rafael Devers avoided arbitration with a one-year deal.

 

The $17.5M deal is a hike from $11.2 last season and a bit higher than projections.

 

That they got this done would suggest further talks on a long-term extension are possible.

 

"suggest" "possible"

Posted
@PeteAbe

#RedSox confirm a

@JeffPassan

report that Rafael Devers avoided arbitration with a one-year deal.

 

The $17.5M deal is a hike from $11.2 last season and a bit higher than projections.

 

That they got this done would suggest further talks on a long-term extension are possible.

Anything is possible, but it wouldn’t have served any purpose not to get it done.

Posted
@PeteAbe

#RedSox confirm a

@JeffPassan

report that Rafael Devers avoided arbitration with a one-year deal.

 

The $17.5M deal is a hike from $11.2 last season and a bit higher than projections.

 

That they got this done would suggest further talks on a long-term extension are possible.

 

 

No it doesn’t.

 

Devers salary for 2023 had to be worked out one way or another. His future contract is in much greater doubt…

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Devers was projected to get $16.9 in arbitration, the extra 600 is negligible. He got about what he was projected too.

 

The fact that they got it done shows they’re talking. Who knows at this point. Devers holds all the cards and the Sox hate this game.

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No it doesn’t.

 

Devers salary for 2023 had to be worked out one way or another. His future contract is in much greater doubt…

 

No but it could have gone to arbitration. It didn’t go to arbitration because they’re talking. They’re talking doesn’t mean a deal gets done…but they are talking.

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Posted
"suggest" "possible"

 

It's that kind of well thought out prose you learn in journalism school at UMass Amherst.

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No but it could have gone to arbitration. It didn’t go to arbitration because they’re talking. They’re talking doesn’t mean a deal gets done…but they are talking.

 

They dealt Mookie after avoiding arbitration. :cool: The sunglasses are hiding my tears.

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No but it could have gone to arbitration. It didn’t go to arbitration because they’re talking. They’re talking doesn’t mean a deal gets done…but they are talking.

 

It served NO purpose to go to arbitration.

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Posts #630 and #631 show MLB's top achievers and top earners at third base.

 

Raffy and his agents can comfortably say he's worth $30+M because of his age and offensive accomplishments.

 

Bloom and his cronies can uncomfortably say he's not even close to Arenado, Machado or Bregman on D, or as good all-around as Ramirez, who can run.

 

Devers' camp can then What-about-Rendon? and Bloom can counter with What-about-Riley?

 

What a revoltin development this is...

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Devers' camp can then What-about-Rendon? and Bloom can counter with What-about-Riley?

 

 

Split the difference and sign on the dotted lines.

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It's that kind of well thought out prose you learn in journalism school at UMass Amherst.

 

@ChrisCotillo

Shows they agreed on his value for 2023. Might mean more. Might not. Guess here is they’ll make a real (big dollar) effort on an extension before Opening Day.

 

This is what a UNC - Chapel Hill degree can give you.

Posted
They dealt Mookie after avoiding arbitration. :cool: The sunglasses are hiding my tears.

 

And just talking doesn’t mean it ends in rainbows. But talking is talking at the very least.

Posted
Split the difference and sign on the dotted lines.

 

The definition of “compromise” is “[to come up with] a new alternative solution that nobody wanted.”

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Attention: Red Sox interns. Please relay this post to your bosses...

 

I joined this forum after the 2019 season stressed that the Red Sox would actually lose their best homegrown player ever developed in my 50 years as a fan.

 

I needed a place to vent about what I thought the hiring of Bloom represented (because I don't hang out in bars anymore).

 

After everything I've seen of this franchise and the majors the past three years, I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe Boston will sign Rafael Devers longterm for any amount.

If somehow it happens, I will be overjoyed and rejuvenated as a Sox fan, with renewed hope that my team's plans are to actually build a winning club again, beginning immediately.

 

Posted
Attention: Red Sox interns. Please relay this post to your bosses...

 

I joined this forum after the 2019 season stressed that the Red Sox would actually lose their best homegrown player ever developed in my 50 years as a fan.

 

I needed a place to vent about what I thought the hiring of Bloom represented (because I don't hang out in bars anymore).

 

After everything I've seen of this franchise and the majors the past three years, I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe Boston will sign Rafael Devers longterm for any amount.

If somehow it happens, I will be overjoyed and rejuvenated as a Sox fan, with renewed hope that my team's plans are to actually build a winning club again, beginning immediately.

 

 

Just like with the Bogey so called negotiating the Raffy price has gone up 10 fold since the offer last offseason, which I would say is at least in the vicinity of $100M. Now if JH didn’t want to pay last offseason why would he want to may millions more now? That wouldn’t make any financial sense at all.

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Just like with the Bogey so called negotiating the Raffy price has gone up 10 fold since the offer last offseason, which I would say is at least in the vicinity of $100M. Now if JH didn’t want to pay last offseason why would he want to may millions more now? That wouldn’t make any financial sense at all.

 

"10 fold?"

 

Sorry, in advance, for "overanalyzing."

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Just like with the Bogey so called negotiating the Raffy price has gone up 10 fold since the offer last offseason, which I would say is at least in the vicinity of $100M. Now if JH didn’t want to pay last offseason why would he want to may millions more now? That wouldn’t make any financial sense at all.

 

Bogey's contract is an overpay. I can see why the Sox would pass. Sox should back up a Brinks truck for Raffy. Two different scenarios IMO.

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"10 fold?"

 

Sorry, in advance, for "overanalyzing."

 

You over analyze. I’m just stating the obvious that Raffy’s asking price has gone up by the millions since last offseason. Another misreading the room by Bloom that would cost JH millions more now to sign Raffy that I don’t believe he will.

Posted
Just like with the Bogey so called negotiating the Raffy price has gone up 10 fold since the offer last offseason, which I would say is at least in the vicinity of $100M. Now if JH didn’t want to pay last offseason why would he want to may millions more now? That wouldn’t make any financial sense at all.

 

If it was just business, would he hire a guy to pay Story and Yoshida combined what they probably could've locked up Devers for, a year ago?

 

Let me rephrase that: in the past year, Bloom spent $270 million on a defensive whiz who in his first year as a Red Sox struck out at a higher rate than JBJ in 9 Boston years, and a foreigner who has yet to play an MLB game. Do you think Raffy would've signed for that a year ago?

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You over analyze. I’m just stating the obvious that Raffy’s asking price has gone up by the millions since last offseason. Another misreading the room by Bloom that would cost JH millions more now to sign Raffy that I don’t believe he will.

 

It's the risk the Sox take by going year to year. You let the market determine the player's value. A sudden market swing can change your plans unexpectedly.

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Bogey's contract is an overpay. I can see why the Sox would pass. Sox should back up a Brinks truck for Raffy. Two different scenarios IMO.

 

What Bogey ended up getting I agree is a big overpay, which went up by the millions, and millions of what the Red Sox offered him last year, and what I believe he would have taken last year, which I believe the same will turn out the same way for Raffy. I don’t believe anyone has ever suggested that the Red Sox should have come close to paying Bogey what he ended up getting. The problem has always been letting Bogey getting to FAnin the first place, and not offering him a fair market offer.

Posted
You over analyze. I’m just stating the obvious that Raffy’s asking price has gone up by the millions since last offseason. Another misreading the room by Bloom that would cost JH millions more now to sign Raffy that I don’t believe he will.

 

My comment was about "ten fold" and not that prices and maybe offers have not gone up or not.

 

That's why I wrote "10 fold?"

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