Xander Bogaerts has signed with San Diego Padres

[redsoxrules]

But they're spending zillions on position players and little on pitchers.

 

Who says they are done? Maybe they will go after Senga and Rondon

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

In theory this makes it more likely they keep Devers.

 

1) They have more money.

2) San Diego doesn't need a third baseman.

 

Don't fall into that trap. The Yankees, Mets, Rangers, Phillies and Giants also showed this week they are all willing to pay market rates. The Twins paid Correa $35 million for one season. The Cubs and Diamondbacks were also in the Bogey sweepstakes. The Cards paid Contreras. Every team gets a share of the new gambling proceeds, which they can decide to reinvest or not.

 

If Devers actually wants to stay in Boston, it will now cost at least $330M... and that's only for 10 years, when he'll be 36. He just saw older guys like Judge and Xander get paid into their 40s.

 

What sucks for Sox fans is that if Raffy isn't locked up by the end of Spring Training, he absolutely has to be traded... because he'll definitely become a free agent and hit the road. And the last thing Bloom or anyone in Red Sox Nation needs is another long, miserable summer of a fan favorite playing out his last days in Boston...

[Old Red]

Sure -- last spring. But people really need to stop thinking Bloom "misread" anything about the market.

 

He's not that incompetent -- or he'd be gone, instead.

 

The offer last spring told me all I needed to know about Bloom, and JH, and so did Bogey. The funny part is that some bought into the Kennedy, and Bloom spin, and grin.

[Bellhorn04]

Don't fall into that trap.

 

The reason I said that is because of the popular theory that Devers wanted to be wherever his buddy X is.

[Old Red]

One report I saw had the Red Sox at 6 yrs/ $27M per as a counter offer.

[redsoxrules]

One report I saw had the Red Sox at 6 yrs/ $27M per as a counter offer.

 

If that's really the highest offer they made, Bloom needs to go.

[Old Red]

If that's really the highest offer they made, Bloom needs to go.

 

And Henry too.

[mvp 78]

The Padres offered $280mill over 11 years…

 

They should have tried harder to extend him last offseason, but I wouldn't want them to match that offer from the Padres. Xander for 11 years? I was hesitant at 7. His defense is going to be really bad. His power has gone down. He's a great guy and a leader, but that contract is a lot. There's been a few years where Xander's power has been zapped by wrist issues. Pass on that contract.

 

Will the Padres be able to re-sign Soto now?

[mvp 78]

Is there any doubt now that Devers will get $300mil?

 

No.

[redsoxrules]

They should have tried harder to extend him last offseason, but I wouldn't want them to match that offer from the Padres. Xander for 11 years? I was hesitant at 7. His defense is going to be really bad. His power has gone down. He's a great guy and a leader, but that contract is a lot. There's been a few years where Xander's power has been zapped by wrist issues. Pass on that contract.

 

Will the Padres be able to re-sign Soto now?

 

Who says the Red Sox would have needed to match? We saw 2 playes already this year take less money.

[mvp 78]

Why didn't they spend some money on pitching instead? They could have had deGrom and Verlander for about the same money.

 

They are trying to compete with LAD, but it doesn't look like they know what they are doing.

[notin]

If that's really the highest offer they made, Bloom needs to go.

 

Is Bloom the guy setting the limit here?

 

It’s certainly possible he determined Bogaerts would be an albatross after 5 or 6 years and therefore wouldn’t go any further. (He might be right on that, too.). But it’s also possible Henry capped the budget or vetoed longer deals…

[mvp 78]

If that's really the highest offer they made, Bloom needs to go.

 

It doesn't matter what the counter off was, I don't think they were getting anywhere close to the Padres $$$.

[redsoxrules]

Is Bloom the guy setting the limit here?

 

It’s certainly possible he determined Bogaerts would be an albatross after 5 or 6 years and therefore wouldn’t go any further. (He might be right on that, too.). But it’s also possible Henry capped the budget or vetoed longer deals…

 

Don't expect extend Devers. All these big contracts will end up being am albatross

[notin]

They are trying to compete with LAD, but it doesn't look like they know what they are doing.

 

The plan so far is:

 

1. Drain the farm to get the best young player in the game today. BUT DON’T EXTEND HIM!!

2. Ignore pitching.

3. Acquire every shortstop in the game. Once we have them all, we can trade them FOR WHATEVER WE WANT!!! [insert maniacal laughter here.]

[redsoxrules]

It doesn't matter what the counter off was, I don't think they were getting anywhere close to the Padres $$$.

 

2 players took less money already this year.

[Old Red]

Is Bloom the guy setting the limit here?

 

It’s certainly possible he determined Bogaerts would be an albatross after 5 or 6 years and therefore wouldn’t go any further. (He might be right on that, too.). But it’s also possible Henry capped the budget or vetoed longer deals…

We all know Henry controls the purse string, but Bloom made that ridiculous offer last offseason, and then provided the lip service on how bad the Red Sox wanted to keep Bogey. They are both guilty as charged.

[mvp 78]

Who says the Red Sox would have needed to match? We saw 2 playes already this year take less money.

 

So the Sox go back to Xander and offer 8/225, but he still walks away. Even then, I'm not sure I like that contract and I wanted Xander to stay. The real problem was putting that opt out in there the first go around. They should have signed a better contract for him the first time. That's the initial failure. Let someone else pay for him for age 36-41 though.

[notin]

Don't expect extend Devers. All these big contracts will end up being am albatross

 

Devers in 10 years might not be. Bogaerts in 6 might be…

[mvp 78]

Don't expect extend Devers. All these big contracts will end up being am albatross

 

They won't pay 300M to Devers. They should trade him this offseason.

[notin]

Don't expect extend Devers. All these big contracts will end up being am albatross

 

Devers in 10 years will be less of one than Bogserts will be in 6…

[notin]

They won't pay 300M to Devers. They should trade him this offseason.

 

Do you don’t think the Sox are going to adjust their prices to meet the market?

 

I guess it’s what Henry wanted all along. Welcome to Tampa North…

[mvp 78]

Devers in 10 years might not be. Bogaerts in 6 might be…

 

The Betts contract should hold up ok in retrospect. The Bogaerts contract should get UGLY. I think the Devers contract should be fine since he's young. Sox should have at least kept 2 of them. Now, they'll probably just pass on all 3.

[redsoxrules]

Sure Henry controls the money but when DD was here there didn't seem to be a limit. Bloom is operating like he's pinching pennies

[mvp 78]

Do you don’t think the Sox are going to adjust their prices to meet the market?

 

I guess it’s what Henry wanted all along. Welcome to Tampa North…

 

It seems like they aren't adjusting their prices. That's their business model I guess?

 

Until they do that, I can't project it will happen.

[mvp 78]

Sure Henry controls the money but when DD was here there didn't seem to be a limit. Bloom is operating like he's pinching pennies

 

There was a limit when DD was here. They let Mookie go. They re-signed Sale and Eovaldi instead. Bloom is working under the same constraints. They have about the same total payroll, it's just being allocated differently.

[mvp 78]

Is Bloom the guy setting the limit here?

 

It’s certainly possible he determined Bogaerts would be an albatross after 5 or 6 years and therefore wouldn’t go any further. (He might be right on that, too.). But it’s also possible Henry capped the budget or vetoed longer deals…

 

Bloom is most likely not here in 6 years, but Henry will be. I think it's obvious who would then decide the length of the deals.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Do you don’t think the Sox are going to adjust their prices to meet the market?

 

I guess it’s what Henry wanted all along. Welcome to Tampa North…

 

The devil you ray...

 

In three years, if all goes according to plan, the core of the next sustained contender in Boston will feature guys like Casas, Bello, Mayer and Bleis -- and all will be extended for the same total investment that the San Diego Big Macs just gave Xander Bogaerts.

[a700hitter]

I guess the momentum that the Red Sox had with Bogaerts was that they were giving him a push out of town.

 

They need more bats now and I don’t know where Bloom is going to find them.

[redsoxrules]

The devil you ray...

 

In three years, if all goes according to plan, the core of the next sustained contender in Boston will feature guys like Casas, Bello, Mayer and Bleis -- and all will be extended for the same total investment that the San Diego Big Macs just gave Xander Bogaerts.

 

How do we know these prospects are going to pan out?