2023 Free Agents

[mvp 78]

I just hope when it's all said and done, Kike is in CF. To me, that is most important when deciding who to add.

 

Right now, that would mean Duvall would be in RF, and I think That's a big plus over Dugo, especially on D. I doubt this happens, though.

 

Kike will likely play SS or 2B, depending on our next addition.

 

In terms of who goes to make room for Duvall and then the middle IF'er we are sure to add, I'm still holding out hope we can make some sort of 2 for 1 deal, perhaps involving Dugo and or Dalbec.

 

My current DFA list:

 

1. Ort

2. Brasier (not going to happen)

3. Taylor, but only if the docs say he will not return to previous form

4. It would be Duran, if we weren't so short in depth in the OF.

5. Mills? Wink?

 

It wasn't that long ago the players listed 3rd, 4th and 5th were not considered "keepers" to any extent. Now, I kinda like Taylor, Wink and Mills.

 

Hard to envision them DFA'ing Taylor or Brasier after they just signed them prior to ARB.

 

My honest guess is Ort or Mills DFA or trade of Duran, Dalbec, Winck, Murph or Houck.

[moonslav59]

Hard to envision them DFA'ing Taylor or Brasier after they just signed them prior to ARB.

 

My honest guess is Ort or Mills DFA or trade of Duran, Dalbec, Winck, Murph or Houck.

 

I'd DFA Ort, but after that, it becomes a bit tougher- not that Mills is someone I'd be pissed off over a DFA.

 

There are a few players with trade value, like Duran, Dalbec and even guys like Murphy, who I think a 2 for 1 type deal could be made. I think all 3 are better than many team's #40, so they could DFA their #40 to make room for a 2 for 1 trade.

 

Yes, I said Brasier being DFA's "is not going to happen," but he's still #2 on my list.

[moonslav59]

IMO, the 38th, 39th and 40th men on the roster are WOO guys, not the backup 1B or RFer.

 

Many times, yes, but when you go through 50-60 players in a season, those #38-40 players often get a chance to "back-up" a back-up.

[mvp 78]

I'd DFA Ort, but after that, it becomes a bit tougher- not that Mills is someone I'd be pissed off over a DFA.

 

There are a few players with trade value, like Duran, Dalbec and even guys like Murphy, who I think a 2 for 1 type deal could be made. I think all 3 are better than many team's #40, so they could DFA their #40 to make room for a 2 for 1 trade.

 

Yes, I said Brasier being DFA's "is not going to happen," but he's still #2 on my list.

 

I think they'd trade Dalbec or Duran for a guy not included on another team's 40 man roster.

[moonslav59]

IMO, the 38th, 39th and 40th men on the roster are WOO guys, not the backup 1B or RFer.

 

Forget about who is most likely to be DFA'd. Who do you honestly feel are the worst 3 players on our 40, or what 3 players would you most want to be gone?

 

To me, Brasier and Duran are in the discussion, and both are not WOO guys, per se. They are high up on the depth chart and may play key roles on the opening day roster, if not more additions are made.

 

Dalbec maybe in the bottom 5. Certainly Ort is. Mills, too.

[moonslav59]

I think they'd trade Dalbec or Duran for a guy not included on another team's 40 man roster.

 

That's the other way to clear a roster spot.

[a700hitter]

Red Sox To Sign Adam Duvall - MLB Trade Rumors

 

Print the World Series tickets. Bloom really likes signing people in their 30's'

[moonslav59]

Red Sox To Sign Adam Duvall - MLB Trade Rumors

 

Print the World Series tickets. Bloom really likes signing people in their 30's'

 

Except Bogey.

[notin]

Wow! All this Dugy trade talk, which I don’t believe will happen, and Duran still getting way to much ink then he should for someone who is not that good, or highly unlikely teams are lining up for him in a trade.

 

No one is suggesting Duran can be traded for Ames Rosario or Nico Hoerner. But he has a speed advantage that could prove useful with new rules and, while his hitting stats were weak, they actually weren’t the worst in MLB and actually do represent upgrades over some players. Not to mention he makes league minimum, which always has some appeal with certain teams…

[notin]

Red Sox To Sign Adam Duvall - MLB Trade Rumors

 

Print the World Series tickets. Bloom really likes signing people in their 30's'

 

Most free agents are in their 30s…

[Old Red]

I could say something about the color brown and a facial feature.

 

Ok Sheldon, but you missed the point. Cora, and Bloom thought JBJ in RF over Renfroe, and Arroyo backing him up would make the Red Sox better last year. How did that work out?

[notin]

Ok Sheldon, but you missed the point. Cora, and Bloom thought JBJ in RF over Renfroe, and Arroyo backing him up would make the Red Sox better last year. How did that work out?

 

So therefore every move ever won’t pan out…

[moonslav59]

Ok Sheldon, but you missed the point. Cora, and Bloom thought JBJ in RF over Renfroe, and Arroyo backing him up would make the Red Sox better last year. How did that work out?

 

No. I got the point.

 

I thought we were okay at 1B with a returning Dalbec and his .800+ OPS and Casas near ML ready on the farm.

 

I did not like our RF situation, and did feel like we needed depth there, but Arroyo was an after thought, and Refsnyder was a shocking surprise.

 

We did not have the funds to fill all the open slots, especially depth slots, and I was happy we finally went for some quality over quantity with the Story signing, although I did "scratch my head" over the position choice, at the time.

 

I've never claimed Bloom made all good choices, despite what a certain poster likes to believe. I hated the JBJ deal from day one- even before we got him back.

 

You don't have to ask me how that worked out. It worked like I expected it to work.

[mvp 78]

No one is suggesting Duran can be traded for Ames Rosario or Nico Hoerner. But he has a speed advantage that could prove useful with new rules and, while his hitting stats were weak, they actually weren’t the worst in MLB and actually do represent upgrades over some players. Not to mention he makes league minimum, which always has some appeal with certain teams…

 

I'm not sure his speed will matter all that much as he wasn't a significant base stealer in MiLB, unlike David Hamilton. Hamilton is on the 40 man because of the upside of his speed, propensity to steal bases and a glove that can fake it at a position. Duran is probably being passed by him in terms of utility. Hamilton was pushed to the OF for versatility as well.

[notin]

I'm not sure his speed will matter all that much as he wasn't a significant base stealer in MiLB, unlike David Hamilton. Hamilton is on the 40 man because of the upside of his speed, propensity to steal bases and a glove that can fake it at a position. Duran is probably being passed by him in terms of utility. Hamilton was pushed to the OF for versatility as well.

 

 

It’s not just about base stealing. A larger first base helps Duran get on base. And at that point his first-to-third speed is useful.

 

And teams like Pittsburgh and Oakland are always interested in minimum wage MLB players. Sure they might not pay as heavily as you want, but the interest is there…

[Jasonbay44]

Tommy Pham to Mets.

[moonslav59]

Tommy Pham to Mets.

 

I'm surprised we didn't add another LF'er.

[mvp 78]

It’s not just about base stealing. A larger first base helps Duran get on base. And at that point his first-to-third speed is useful.

 

And teams like Pittsburgh and Oakland are always interested in minimum wage MLB players. Sure they might not pay as heavily as you want, but the interest is there…

 

The bases are going from 15" to 18". I don't think the amount of bang bang plays this will help Duran on will be much more than many other players. 5 extra hits a year? Maybe? Is that enough to hold a roster spot? If he could reasonably field CF we wouldn't be having this conversation. The problem is that his defense has been so behind that there is no wiggle room for his undeveloped bat.

 

Would a 3rd division team want him? Probably. Send him to PIT or OAK. It's probably what is best for his career anyway. He's not going to get the reps here.

[mvp 78]

We talk about Duran's amazing sprint speed. He's top 7% in the league at 29.1 ft/s.

 

Number 2 on the Sox? Connor Wong at 28.9! Top 12% and the fastest C in the league. Probably part of the reason he's been considered to be a super UTIL guy at times.

[notin]

The bases are going from 15" to 18". I don't think the amount of bang bang plays this will help Duran on will be much more than many other players. 5 extra hits a year? Maybe? Is that enough to hold a roster spot? If he could reasonably field CF we wouldn't be having this conversation. The problem is that his defense has been so behind that there is no wiggle room for his undeveloped bat.

 

Would a 3rd division team want him? Probably. Send him to PIT or OAK. It's probably what is best for his career anyway. He's not going to get the reps here.

 

And you’d be wrong…

[Bellhorn04]

And you’d be wrong…

 

What do your calculations show?

[Old Red]

I'm surprised we didn't add another LF'er.

 

When the zRed Sox needed a CF, or RF last year Bloom after 2 months went out, and got a LF, which then pushed Dugy to RF, which I agree is not his best position. No doubt that an alignment of Dugy, Kike, and Duvall would be the best D alignment, but Dugy in RF, and Yoshida in LF probably won’t win any gold gloves.

[notin]

What do your calculations show?

 

That he was wrong. I thought it was a simple enough overview…

[Old Red]

It’s not just about base stealing. A larger first base helps Duran get on base. And at that point his first-to-third speed is useful.

 

And teams like Pittsburgh and Oakland are always interested in minimum wage MLB players. Sure they might not pay as heavily as you want, but the interest is there…

I don’t know why you are so hung up on Duran, but to each his own. Duran is one of those guys I talk about all the time, which I believe has gone from prospect to suspect.

[mvp 78]

That he was wrong. I thought it was a simple enough overview…

 

"Which play at first base from last year showed to you that Duran would get more hits this year due to the new bases?"

[mvp 78]

I don’t know why you are so hung up on Duran, but to each his own. Duran is one of those guys I talk about all the time, which I believe has gone from prospect to suspect.

 

He's a guy that I don't even think about because I don't believe he'll be in BOS this year unless in the visitor's dugout.

[Old Red]

He's a guy that I don't even think about because I don't believe he'll be in BOS this year unless in the visitor's dugout.

 

I agree, and like I said last year I don’t believe he is in any long range plans, which is to bad, because the Red Sox certainly could have used him the last two years if he was any good.

[mvp 78]

I agree, and like I said last year I don’t believe he is in any long range plans, which is to bad, because the Red Sox certainly could have used him the last two years if he was any good.

 

He should have been good, but his development plateaued and his defense never became adequate. Sad considering the tools he has. I think he spends more time working on his physique than working on being a better ballplayer.

[notin]

Josh Harrison is on the radar

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/01/red-sox-interested-in-josh-harrison.html

 

Greatly prefer Andrus…

[mvp 78]

Josh Harrison is on the radar

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/01/red-sox-interested-in-josh-harrison.html

 

Greatly prefer Andrus…

 

Harrison is a UTIL guy to mix and match with Arroyo. Andrus is a SS only guy. Seems Bloom already found his SS and is valuing versatility?