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  1. 1. How is Bloom doing?

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Since this is somehow an overwhelmingly pro-Bloom board, it's going to be interesting to see all the pro-Bloom votes!
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Since this is somehow an overwhelmingly pro-Bloom board, it's going to be interesting to see all the pro-Bloom votes!

 

Taking a very small sample size of Red Sox Nation proves what? Like the last poll I will not vote. This subject has been beaten to death, and I don’t think anyone has changed their mind.

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Many years ago I wanted Friedman running this team but since it couldn't be done, Bloom was a fine and encouraging option in my book.

 

Friedman has been executing very well in both worlds, spending wisely the money and developing and trading LAD farm all-in-all. Friedman has made LAD a serious contender team year after year since he arrived.

 

I expect Bloom doing nothing but that otherwise would be a failure moving forward. Our budget is not far from LA's, so no excuses.

 

Said that, I know the heat is at top right now mostly since some additions haven't panned out well, but we have to understand that he inherited a clogged team which should be with a lot of flexibility begging next year.

 

From 2023 he has to start delivering results. It's going to be his 4th year. As I said, this team should take LAD model and Bloom is on paper the guy who has the acumen to do that.

 

By now, it's a plain C.

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Barnes and JBJ didn't pan out well and Story is on a very thin line, but he has also made good trades and additions. The best must be Whitlock.
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By now, it's a plain C.

 

I think I'm with you.

 

2020 was rough, but I gave him a pass. 2021 was bit of a pleasant surprise. 2022 has been a big letdown.

 

While I like how the farm system looks now in comparison to a few years ago, if the BOSTON Red Sox don't have a better and more coherent team next season, Henry needs to consider moving on.

 

I'm worried that he's on the Cherington track of last place, first place, last place, last place. I don't like the roller coaster ride.

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Many years ago I wanted Friedman running this team but since it couldn't be done, Bloom was a fine and encouraging option in my book.

 

Friedman has been executing very well in both worlds, spending wisely the money and developing and trading LAD farm all-in-all. Friedman has made LAD a serious contender team year after year since he arrived.

 

I expect Bloom doing nothing but that otherwise would be a failure moving forward. Our budget is not far from LA's, so no excuses.

 

Said that, I know the heat is at top right now mostly since some additions haven't panned out well, but we have to understand that he inherited a clogged team which should be with a lot of flexibility begging next year.

 

From 2023 he has to start delivering results. It's going to be his 4th year. As I said, this team should take LAD model and Bloom is on paper the guy who has the acumen to do that.

 

By now, it's a plain C.

C but trending downward. And C is not good enough to keep this job.
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I think I'm with you.

 

2020 was rough, but I gave him a pass. 2021 was bit of a pleasant surprise. 2022 has been a big letdown.

 

While I like how the farm system looks now in comparison to a few years ago, if the BOSTON Red Sox don't have a better and more coherent team next season, Henry needs to consider moving on.

 

I'm worried that he's on the Cherington track of last place, first place, last place, last place. I don't like the roller coaster ride.

 

I'm in roughly the same position.

 

I think my biggest worry about Bloom is a tendency to be "too clever", as with the JBJ trade.

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Taking a very small sample size of Red Sox Nation proves what? Like the last poll I will not vote. This subject has been beaten to death, and I don’t think anyone has changed their mind.

 

Ok. We’ll put you down for option 4…

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Many years ago I wanted Friedman running this team but since it couldn't be done, Bloom was a fine and encouraging option in my book.

 

Friedman has been executing very well in both worlds, spending wisely the money and developing and trading LAD farm all-in-all. Friedman has made LAD a serious contender team year after year since he arrived.

 

I expect Bloom doing nothing but that otherwise would be a failure moving forward. Our budget is not far from LA's, so no excuses.

 

Said that, I know the heat is at top right now mostly since some additions haven't panned out well, but we have to understand that he inherited a clogged team which should be with a lot of flexibility begging next year.

 

From 2023 he has to start delivering results. It's going to be his 4th year. As I said, this team should take LAD model and Bloom is on paper the guy who has the acumen to do that.

 

By now, it's a plain C.

 

Friedman has been spending wisely?

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C but trending downward. And C is not good enough to keep this job.

 

Definitely. 2023 is going to be key. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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Ok. We’ll put you down for option 4…

 

Get a Country wide poll of Red Sox Nation, and my vote would be on it. The only way for all to see how Bloom is really thought of.

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As a Yankee fan I'm torn on how to vote.

 

On one hand, I think he's a terrible GM that is in way over his head.

 

That being said, I hope john henry gives him a lifetime contract!

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I think I'm with you.

 

2020 was rough, but I gave him a pass. 2021 was bit of a pleasant surprise. 2022 has been a big letdown.

 

While I like how the farm system looks now in comparison to a few years ago, if the BOSTON Red Sox don't have a better and more coherent team next season, Henry needs to consider moving on.

 

I'm worried that he's on the Cherington track of last place, first place, last place, last place. I don't like the roller coaster ride.

yeah if he turns into another Cherington he will be gone.

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Friedman has been spending wisely?

 

Whether Friedman is spending wisely or not is a matter of opinion. What is not a matter of opinion is that the Dodgers have the best record in MLB.

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Chaim Bloom was a solid hire who was given the benefit of the doubt until this trade deadline rolled around.

 

The trade deadline may have been the tipping point that imperils Bloom's Red Sox tenure.

 

Or not.

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Whether Friedman is spending wisely or not is a matter of opinion. What is not a matter of opinion is that the Dodgers have the best record in MLB.

 

If you as GM have money, will be dumb, you do not use it mostly if it is helping to win as LAD are winning. It's a no brainer.

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Get a Country wide poll of Red Sox Nation, and my vote would be on it. The only way for all to see how Bloom is really thought of.

 

This is an international vote.

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Friedman has the ultimate deep pocket ownership ( Mark Walter/ Todd Boehly of Guggenheim Baseball Management ) and has spent even more than they have in the bank. The Dodger 2022 payroll is over $280 million vs the Sox $206 million, $63 million of which is useless money with respect to winning games in 2022. In fact , a chunk of that money ( D. Price ) subsidizes the Dodgers roster cost.
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Friedman has the ultimate deep pocket ownership ( Mark Walter/ Todd Boehly of Guggenheim Baseball Management ) and has spent even more than they have in the bank. The Dodger 2022 payroll is over $280 million vs the Sox $206 million, $63 million of which is useless money with respect to winning games in 2022. In fact , a chunk of that money ( D. Price ) subsidizes the Dodgers roster cost.

 

All.MLB owners are deep pocketed. It's just a matter of how much they are willing to spend on the ballclub.

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Friedman has the ultimate deep pocket ownership ( Mark Walter/ Todd Boehly of Guggenheim Baseball Management ) and has spent even more than they have in the bank. The Dodger 2022 payroll is over $280 million vs the Sox $206 million, $63 million of which is useless money with respect to winning games in 2022. In fact , a chunk of that money ( D. Price ) subsidizes the Dodgers roster cost.

 

The RS's books will be restored in 2023, won't they? If so Bloom will have flexibility and will not be excuses.

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If you as GM have money, will be dumb, you do not use it mostly if it is helping to win as LAD are winning. It's a no brainer.

 

That's quite the word salad.....

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Would it surprise if Henry (or one of his acolytes) votes "He's great!"?

 

What if Bloom is doing exactly what he was hired to do, which is carry out a grand plan of cost-cutting -- while mouthpieces like Kennedy insist they're still going for it -- with a eye on ultimate contention via sustained salary "sanity" (translation: below big market market-values)?

 

The goal is still to win, not tank, but ideally when actual young pre-arb talent gels at the big league level... and most importantly, the "sustained" aim of Bloom's sustained contenders is to keep cores together by pre-empting free agency and buying out years on big but not bank-busting contracts.

 

Imagine Casas, Mayer and Bello all making MLB All-Star teams in a few years, and the Sox locking each of them up longterm for $100 million apiece... instead of spending all $300 mil on one Devers. What would be best for the franchise?

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Would it surprise if Henry (or one of his acolytes) votes "He's great!"?

 

What if Bloom is doing exactly what he was hired to do, which is carry out a grand plan of cost-cutting -- while mouthpieces like Kennedy insist they're still going for it -- with a eye on ultimate contention via sustained salary "sanity" (translation: below big market market-values)?

 

The goal is still to win, not tank, but ideally when actual young pre-arb talent gels at the big league level... and most importantly, the "sustained" aim of Bloom's sustained contenders is to keep cores together by pre-empting free agency and buying out years on big but not bank-busting contracts.

 

Imagine Casas, Mayer and Bello all making MLB All-Star teams in a few years, and the Sox locking each of them up longterm for $100 million apiece... instead of spending all $300 mil on one Devers. What would be best for the franchise?

 

If it was a guarantee that all three would turn into a Super Star then you bet, but that is a big if, and you already know what you have in Raffy. Hype, and performance are two different things.

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All.MLB owners are deep pocketed. It's just a matter of how much they are willing to spend on the ballclub.

 

But none of them reach into their own pockets. For the most part what they spend is tied to the franchise's revenues.

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