How much would you offer Eovaldi?

[notin]

It’s early in the season, but it sure looks like it at the moment. I said Story would help this year, but he’ll never fill Bogey’s shoes.

 

He actually might be a close fit as an overall player, but he will never hit like Bogaerts. That he was signed at all might be an indication of what was expected in negotiations with Bogaerts…

[mvp 78]

He actually might be a close fit as an overall player, but he will never hit like Bogaerts. That he was signed at all might be an indication of what was expected in negotiations with Bogaerts…

 

At least his contract isn't top of the market so that you can move him around if Mayer and Yorke force their way onto the roster in a few years.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I selected zero because I think he will be too expensive for a pitcher who will be 33yrs old by Opening Day next year for a rebuilding team.

 

True about EO being 33 by opening day, but his pitching arm is much younger.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The SOX FO doesn't have to extend EO. They can wait to develop a good starter in the farm system. The only problem with that is most likely we'll all be dead before that happens.

[Bellhorn04]

The SOX FO doesn't have to extend EO. They can wait to develop a good starter in the farm system. The only problem with that is most likely we'll all be dead before that happens.

 

Right. And who do they replace him with?

[moonslav59]

He has had issues with back and hammy issues. He is 32, meaning you are looking at signing him for 33-38 most likely. You are not in window, meaning you may burn his best 1-2 years of the next contract on bad teams

 

33-38 is a 6 year deal. Come on, jacko!

Edited May 13, 2022 by moonslav59

[JDavis76]

True about EO being 33 by opening day, but his pitching arm is much younger.

 

Did he cryogenically freeze the muscles and ligaments in his throwing arm?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Did he cryogenically freeze the muscles and ligaments in his throwing arm?

 

Yup, he does that as part of his offseason routine.

[mvp 78]

True about EO being 33 by opening day, but his pitching arm is much younger.

 

I still don't agree with this theory.

[Old Red]

Right. And who do they replace him with?

 

Bloom’s out at all the yard sales right now.

[JDavis76]

bloom’s out at all the yard sales right now.

 

lol!!

[mvp 78]

Right. And who do they replace him with?

 

There's another guy with an arm that is young for age 33 as of next Opening Day: Allen Webster.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

He has had issues with back and hammy issues. He is 32, meaning you are looking at signing him for 33-38 most likely. You are not in window, meaning you may burn his best 1-2 years of the next contract on bad teams

 

Words from a hopeful Yankee fan... hoping some Red Sox exec reads here every day and somehow gets brainwashed by constant misinformation to do the bidding of destructive political mouthpieces.

 

You're a pitcher, so no one has to tell you the importance of having an ace to solidify the staff -- no matter where the team sits in the standings or whether it's a contender, pretender or a renovation project.

 

There can be no window until you pull up the dark shades, and we all know where that starts, so you're never burning the best of a guy at the top of the rotation.

[mvp 78]

Bloom’s out at all the yard sales right now.

 

How about this soon to be FA:

 

2022: 34.1 IP, 2.10 ERA, 2.57 FIP, 1.0 fWAR

 

He'll only be 32.

[mvp 78]

Words from a hopeful Yankee fan... hoping some Red Sox exec reads here every day and somehow gets brainwashed by constant misinformation to do the bidding of destructive political mouthpieces.

 

You're a pitcher, so no one has to tell you the importance of having an ace to solidify the staff -- no matter where the team sits in the standings or whether it's a contender, pretender or a renovation project.

 

There can be no window until you pull up the dark shades, and we all know where that starts, so you're never burning the best of a guy at the top of the rotation.

 

Last season, jacko declared that he had been right about every Red Sox season for 7 years (he hadn't) and that the Sox would be terrible again (they weren't), so we all just need to remember to ignore all of his prognostications.

 

I don't mean to moon up this post, but it's an important reminder.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Last season, jacko declared that he had been right about every Red Sox season for 7 years (he hadn't) and that the Sox would be terrible again (they weren't), so we all just need to remember to ignore all of his prognostications.

 

I don't mean to moon up this post, but it's an important reminder.

 

Jacko's appearances here are in direct proportion to how well the Yankems are doing. I can only guess he comes here because the Yankem board if stock full of idiots.

[mvp 78]

Jacko's appearances here are in direct proportion to how well the Yankems are doing. I can only guess he comes here because the Yankem board if stock full of idiots.

 

He got banned from a Yankees board.

[Hitch]

Have to be realistic though. There's no way they're paying Bogey, Devers and Story $20-30 million each.

 

Nope, which is why the Story signing is so annoying. It rubber stamps Bogey going.

[notin]

At least his contract isn't top of the market so that you can move him around if Mayer and Yorke force their way onto the roster in a few years.

 

Only if Story is still worth his $23mill AAV…

[moonslav59]

Nope, which is why the Story signing is so annoying. It rubber stamps Bogey going.

 

They decided no Bogey before the Story signing. Had they not signed Story, they'd have added a SS by opening day next season, anyway.

 

Yes, it sent a clear message to Bogey, but it is what it is. They do not value Bogey like Bogey and his agent do, and like some GMs will do, this winter.

[dgalehouse]

If the Sox are at the point where they lose all of their best players because they don't want to pay the going rate , then I don't know what else can be said.

[JDavis76]

If the Sox are at the point where they lose all of their best players because they don't want to pay the going rate , then I don't know what else can be said.

 

It's a tough spot for teams nowadays.

 

Many teams have big money TV contracts and are flush with cash and therefore the price of free agents has risen.

 

This causes bidding wars where the going rate doesn't always mean it's a good deal in the end. But if you're not willing to play in that sandbox, you will then miss out on a huge chunk of the top talent available.

[mvp 78]

If the Sox are at the point where they lose all of their best players because they don't want to pay the going rate , then I don't know what else can be said.

 

And to think I thought they could stay competitive year and in year out due to the high cost of tickets and NESN!

[mvp 78]

Only if Story is still worth his $23mill AAV…

 

By "move him around" I don't necessarily mean move him to another team. Maybe you move him to 3b or OF or DH? Maybe you do eat part of his salary and deal him?

[moonslav59]

If the Sox are at the point where they lose all of their best players because they don't want to pay the going rate , then I don't know what else can be said.

 

We have not just arrived at this "point."

 

We lost...

Mueller

DLowe

Pedro

Damon

Manny (not all about the money with him)

Beltran

Papelbon

Beckett & AGon (to shed CC's money)

Ellsbury (Thank God!)

Lester, Lackey & Andrew Miller

Kimbrel, Porcello, Price

ERod

 

Somehow, we've kept on winning with this strategy.

[JDavis76]

By "move him around" I don't necessarily mean move him to another team. Maybe you move him to 3b or OF or DH? Maybe you do eat part of his salary and deal him?

 

Well, he'd actually need to hit to be a DH, no?

[notin]

Well, he'd actually need to hit to be a DH, no?

 

… says the fan of a team that used Joey Gallo as a DH last year…

[mvp 78]

We have not just arrived at this "point."

 

We lost...

Mueller

DLowe

Pedro

Damon

Manny (not all about the money with him)

Beltran

Papelbon

Beckett & AGon (to shed CC's money)

Ellsbury (Thank God!)

Lester, Lackey & Andrew Miller

Kimbrel, Porcello, Price

ERod

 

Somehow, we've kept on winning with this strategy.

 

Mueller and Lowe they didn't want to re-sign. I'm not sure they had any interest in re-signing Pedro either. When did Beltran play here?

 

They traded Beckett and AGon....

 

I mean... what a crazy list...

[JDavis76]

… says the fan of a team that used Joey Gallo as a DH last year…

 

And I didn't advocate that then nor am I suggesting that he could be a DH in the future.

 

He's one of those guys that just doesn't seem to be cut out for NY, Whitson among others comes to mind.

[Bellhorn04]

Mueller and Lowe they didn't want to re-sign. I'm not sure they had any interest in re-signing Pedro either. When did Beltran play here?

 

They traded Beckett and AGon....

 

I mean... what a crazy list...

 

Nor is ERod a great example of us "keeping on winning" without him...