2022 Bullpen Thread

[notin]

Yankees DFA Manny Banuelos. Any interest?

 

 

No. Baneulos has 8 IP this year and 85 over the past 8 seasons. Some injuries, yes, but even a healthy Banuelos is more likely to be a problem than a solution…

[notin]

Assuming everyone gets healthy, the Sox roytation becomes

 

Sale-Eovaldi-Pivetta-Wacha-Hill!(and maybe eventually Paxton)

 

That might leave a potential bullpen of

 

Houck, Whitlock, Taylor, Diekman, Strahm, Davis, Schreiber, Brasier, and one of Barnes/Robles/Sawamura/Danish.

 

The Sox could strength in further with an acquisition (Michael Fulmer?) or hminor league help (Frank German) or both…

[Bellhorn04]

Assuming everyone gets healthy, the Sox roytation becomes

 

Sale-Eovaldi-Pivetta-Wacha-Hill!(and maybe eventually Paxton)

 

That might leave a potential bullpen of

 

Houck, Whitlock, Taylor, Diekman, Strahm, Davis, Schreiber, Brasier, and one of Barnes/Robles/Sawamura/Danish.

 

The Sox could strength in further with an acquisition (Michael Fulmer?) or hminor league help (Frank German) or both…

 

The question is whether they leave Whitlock in the rotation for now, which could move Hill to the pen.

 

They could move Whitlock to the pen later, depending on his innings target for the year.

[JDavis76]

No. Baneulos has 8 IP this year and 85 over the past 8 seasons. Some injuries, yes, but even a healthy Banuelos is more likely to be a problem than a solution…

 

How so? He's pitched pretty well so far this year and if he stinks it up you DFA him.

[jgar658]

The problem with negative test results is they only prove you didn’t have COVID, not that you don’t have COVID..

 

A neg Covid test within 24 hour is way better than a vaccine certificate. A vaccinated person could be festering with Covid and enter Canada with no problem.

[JDavis76]

A neg Covid test within 24 hour is way better than a vaccine certificate. A vaccinated person could be festering with Covid and enter Canada with no problem.

 

Agreed

[a700hitter]

I'm with you.

 

But Shaughnessy and the people who commented on his article are really laying it on the unvaccinated.

DS has been a major douche for many years.

[a700hitter]

I am ostracizing the heck out of them, but I agree with you. What's done is done, and the team needs to move on.

Canada should be ostracized. Oh wait, they pretty much are ostracized.

[JDavis76]

canada should be ostracized. Oh wait, they pretty much are ostracized.

 

lol

[notin]

How so? He's pitched pretty well so far this year and if he stinks it up you DFA him.

 

Which of his 8 IP was the one that impressed you most?

[notin]

The question is whether they leave Whitlock in the rotation for now, which could move Hill to the pen.

 

They could move Whitlock to the pen later, depending on his innings target for the year.

 

 

They could, but I doubt using Hill out of the pen was ever part of the plan, as he hasn’t thrown a pitch in relief since 2014.

 

And maybe I’m wrong,but I always figured the plan for Hill was to last in the rotation until Paxton was ready…

[JDavis76]

Which of his 8 IP was the one that impressed you most?

 

Nothing really stands out that I can think of. But, again, there is very little risk involved. Which of his 8 innings makes you think he's a problem?

[Larry Cook]

We fight and fight and take the lead in the eight and then comes the bullpen to implode!

 

How is Cora not a raging alcoholic!

[JDavis76]

No. Baneulos has 8 IP this year and 85 over the past 8 seasons. Some injuries, yes, but even a healthy Banuelos is more likely to be a problem than a solution…

 

Sure looks like you could have used banuelos tonight!

[Nick]

Assuming everyone gets healthy, the Sox roytation becomes

 

Sale-Eovaldi-Pivetta-Wacha-Hill!(and maybe eventually Paxton)

 

That might leave a potential bullpen of

 

Houck, Whitlock, Taylor, Diekman, Strahm, Davis, Schreiber, Brasier, and one of Barnes/Robles/Sawamura/Danish.

 

The Sox could strength in further with an acquisition (Michael Fulmer?) or hminor league help (Frank German) or both…

 

I wish they would 'test out' Frank German. What's the downside? He comes in and blows a 5-4 lead in the ninth?

[Larry Cook]

I wish they would 'test out' Frank German. What's the downside? He comes in and blows a 5-4 lead in the ninth?

 

Danish and Robles bungled it tonight. They both need to go the way of the dinosaur!

[JDavis76]

Danish and Robles bungled it tonight. They both need to go the way of the dinosaur!

 

But we are trying to do away with fossil fuels!

[Maxbialystock]

They could, but I doubt using Hill out of the pen was ever part of the plan, as he hasn’t thrown a pitch in relief since 2014.

 

And maybe I’m wrong,but I always figured the plan for Hill was to last in the rotation until Paxton was ready…

 

I could go either way on this, but am inclined to agree with Hill staying as a starter. Whitlock has good potential as a starter, but we know he can be terrific in the bullpen. I think Whitlock, Schreiber, and Houck could handle almost all of the 8th and 9th inning stuff in close games. Alternatively, Whitlock has been very good as a long reliever.

[Bellhorn04]

I wish they would 'test out' Frank German. What's the downside? He comes in and blows a 5-4 lead in the ninth?

 

German in, Robles out. Done.

[Bellhorn04]

They could, but I doubt using Hill out of the pen was ever part of the plan, as he hasn’t thrown a pitch in relief since 2014.

 

And maybe I’m wrong,but I always figured the plan for Hill was to last in the rotation until Paxton was ready…

 

You could certainly be right. It's all guesswork at this point.

[Old Red]

German in, Robles out. Done.

 

Sounds like a plan to me, but at any rate Robles has to be gone.

[mvp 78]

Sounds like a plan to me, but at any rate Robles has to be gone.

 

I wanted to DFA him weeks ago. I think there are a few AAA guys that need to at least be given a shot. We've seen guys like Schreiber make a difference. Maybe someone like Ort, German, Politi, Bazardo, Kelly can do the same. Robles just doesn't have it.

[mvp 78]

Danish and Robles bungled it tonight. They both need to go the way of the dinosaur!

 

I think Danish is ok, but just isn't a high leverage guy. You still need guys to pitch the 6th.

[Old Red]

I wanted to DFA him weeks ago. I think there are a few AAA guys that need to at least be given a shot. We've seen guys like Schreiber make a difference. Maybe someone like Ort, German, Politi, Bazardo, Kelly can do the same. Robles just doesn't have it.

 

Robles was one of Bloom’s late pickups that nobody else wanted.

[mvp 78]

A neg Covid test within 24 hour is way better than a vaccine certificate. A vaccinated person could be festering with Covid and enter Canada with no problem.

 

Even a negative test isn't a great indicator, but is a far better bet than just a vax card. Limiting the spread wouldn't be everyone carrying cards around, but simply masking when in close quarters. A baseball player in the middle of Sky Dome? Probably not going to impact the spread at all. More likely to spread it at a hotel, at a restaurant or whatever.

[JDavis76]

Even a negative test isn't a great indicator, but is a far better bet than just a vax card. Limiting the spread wouldn't be everyone carrying cards around, but simply masking when in close quarters. A baseball player in the middle of Sky Dome? Probably not going to impact the spread at all. More likely to spread it at a hotel, at a restaurant or whatever.

 

That would be true if everyone had an N95 mask on. That cute floral cloth mask you bought at the gas station is useless.

[JDavis76]

You could certainly be right. It's all guesswork at this point.

 

Well, bellhop, since you like "if's" so much, buster olney tweeted "If the playoffs started today, the red sox would face the blue jays. In toronto."

[Old Red]

Well, bellhop, since you like "if's" so much, buster olney tweeted "If the playoffs started today, the red sox would face the blue jays. In toronto."

 

Cora, and Bloom not worrying, or figuring out the backend of the BP for the first 50+ games of the season, and making piggybacking a bigger priority will most likely bite them in the ass come postseason one way, or the other.

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

Cora has done some strange moves but most seem to work out. But last night his decision to put in 2 of the worst bullpen arms to close out a 1 run lead in the 9th against a divisional opponent was mind boggling. I understand Houck was not there but there were better options. I'd like to see Strahm utilized more.

[Kimmi]

From what I hear reported, the team has no problem in this regard and that a number of other players were vaccinated only recently. I think many are sympathetic with these players.

 

Edit: I think the clubhouse is united in thinking Canada is imposing a stupid rule.

 

Good to hear, and I am in agreement.