Game Day Thread 06.13.21 - Jays (Ray) @ Red Sox (Perez)

[Tedballgame]

Can they pitch?

 

Kaleb Ort has a .60 ERA with 7 saves at AAA. He can pitch.

[Tedballgame]

Santana and Marwin can both play multiple positions and can't hit at any of them.

[TylerD]

Offense going quick. Jesus.

[redsoxrules]

It's to a point where I'm not even surprised anymore that by the time the first inning is over they are already losing. I know they have a lot of comeback wins but if they keep putting themselves in this position they are going to have more losses than comeback wins

[TylerD]

It's to a point where I'm not even surprised anymore that by the time the first inning is over they are already losing. I know they have a lot of comeback wins but if they keep putting themselves in this position they are going to have more losses than comeback wins

 

Agreed. They have done it all year and will continue to do so. It’s frustrating but it’s normal now

[moonslav59]

It's to a point where I'm not even surprised anymore that by the time the first inning is over they are already losing. I know they have a lot of comeback wins but if they keep putting themselves in this position they are going to have more losses than comeback wins

 

They've had the lead after one as much as they've been behind. Exactly even at 17 each.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I don't believe any of the SOX top 4 hitters should be scheduled for a day of rest in the immediate future. But then there's coddling and then there's Cora coddling.

[jung]

They need Sale and other reinforcements. This crew just doesn’t have what it takes.

 

They need a stopper and that won't be Sale this year even if he comes back. If he comes back does he start? If he starts the chance of him making all his starts are slim and none IMO.

 

Every team loses games and even loses in streaks. Without a stopper you can lose 4 in a row just like that. I don't care how many you can win in a row, if you can lose 4 in a row I just don't think you belong in the top tier of MLB.

[TylerD]

Probably going to shut this off and take my kid to the park.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I hope Remy's wife has prevented Jerry from watching these last two games. Definitely not good for his recuperation.

[jung]

Thats it. Headed off to my future son-in-laws graduation party. The anticipation is killing me. It should at least he more exciting than this has been.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

No reason to take Weber out. Let him work on some pitches while he's out there. Btw, might be a good idea to provide Weber and most of our starters with an L-Screen to prevent injuries.

[redsoxrules]

Consider the game lost. Rest up the good bullpen arms and leave the garbage out there to take a beating

[d-money]

Sox starting rotation giving BP. Can’t win like that. A joke of a homestand. Better get the split tomorrow.

[vegasbob]

The simple fact that Ryan Weber's slopball is your long relief tells you all you need to know. I contend that this is a .500 team that had a nice 9 game streak early on and now is showing the weakness of the pitching staff.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Bloom is on the phone with John Henry trying to explain that this is a rebuilding year.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The simple fact that Ryan Weber's slopball is your long relief tells you all you need to know. I contend that this is a .500 team that had a nice 9 game streak early on and now is showing the weakness of the pitching staff.

 

I contend that you are correct.

[Nick]

Lets see...

 

Kike continues to thrive in #1 spot. No one, no one has explained to me what harm will our #2-#6 do batting #1-#5. I only care who bats in front of me.

 

Santana continues to march towards sub .100 avg. Now batting .111.

[vegasbob]

For awhile I was thinking about what would be the moves in late July if the Sox were still within 4 or 5 games of first contending for a WC position. No need to think too much more. Trade the veterans like Renfroe for a low A pitching prospect , and bring up a couple guys from WooSox to show them the postgame meal spread at MLB level..

[moonslav59]

They need a stopper and that won't be Sale this year even if he comes back. If he comes back does he start? If he starts the chance of him making all his starts are slim and none IMO.

 

Every team loses games and even loses in streaks. Without a stopper you can lose 4 in a row just like that. I don't care how many you can win in a row, if you can lose 4 in a row I just don't think you belong in the top tier of MLB.

 

The Rays lost 4 in a row in early April. They've aslo lost 3 in a row two times and 4 out of 5 two times- one not part of the 3 in a row subset.

 

The CWS have not lost 4 in a row and only lost 3 straight once and 4 of 5 once (part of the 3 straight subset).

 

The A's started the season losing 6 straight and have lost 3 straight and 4 of 5 a couple times each.

 

The Astros lost 6 straight and 9 out of 10. They lost 4 straight another time and 3 straight tow other times.

 

SF has only lost 3 straight once.

 

LAD has 4 straight once and has lost 3 straight three time and had one stretch going 4-14. Much worse than anything we have done.

[moonslav59]

For awhile I was thinking about what would be the moves in late July if the Sox were still within 4 or 5 games of first contending for a WC position. No need to think too much more. Trade the veterans like Renfroe for a low A pitching prospect , and bring up a couple guys from WooSox to show them the postgame meal spread at MLB level..

 

I'd keep the two year plus players and think about trading the 4 month players, if this losing continues.

 

ERod

Barnes

Ottavino

Marwin

 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

If Bloom wants a good starting pitcher, he's going to have to trade one of the top 4 hitters. The only one that makes sense is JD.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I'd keep the two year plus players and think about trading the 4 month players, if this losing continues.

 

ERod

Barnes

Ottavino

Marwin

 

 

I wouldn't want to trade Barnes.

Edited June 13, 2021 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[moonslav59]

I wouldn't want to trade Barnes.

 

I don't want to either, but if we are 7 down by the deadline, he's the guy who would bring back the most.

[moonslav59]

If Bloom wants a good starting pitcher, he's going to have to trade one of the top 4 hitters. The only one that makes sense is JD.

 

The only team that would trade for JD is a contender. What contender can spare a good starting pitcher mid season?

 

Maybe a pitching prospect, but not a proven good SP'er.

[Larry Cook]

This is uglier than a Steinbrenner family reunion!

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I don't want to either, but if we are 7 down by the deadline, he's the guy who would bring back the most.

 

Definitely, but I'd rather trade JD than Barnes.

[Bellhorn04]

This is uglier than a Steinbrenner family reunion!

 

Even if George and Hank are both there?

[moonslav59]

Definitely, but I'd rather trade JD than Barnes.

 

Me, too, but at his cost, we would not get nearly as much as with Barnes.

 

Barnes's contract is a plus.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The only team that would trade for JD is a contender. What contender can spare a good starting pitcher mid season?

 

Maybe a pitching prospect, but not a proven good SP'er.

 

Good point. Looks like the SOX are screwed.