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Major League Baseball announced on Friday that it will relocate the 2021 All-Star Game and MLB Draft, originally scheduled to take place in Atlanta, to a to-be-determined location. The decision comes a little more than a week after the passage of S.B. 202, a Georgia law that President Joe Biden
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Without getting political, can somebody fill me in on this law? I can't seem to find anything concrete on the Internet
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A very sad and dangerous situation when the highest ranking U.S. politicians pressure athletes and Georgia based companies to force this situation that actually financially hurts the people of the state they claim to be standing up for.

 

Are those same highest ranking politicians going to force a move of the Olympics from Beijing? I don't think we need to review the human rights abuses there?

 

Will Coke, Delta, and Home Depot be pressured to stay away from the Olympics if it us held in Beijing?

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A very sad and dangerous situation when the highest ranking U.S. politicians pressure athletes and Georgia based companies to force this situation that actually financially hurts the people of the state they claim to be standing up for.

 

Are those same highest ranking politicians going to force a move of the Olympics from Beijing? I don't think we need to review the human rights abuses there?

 

Will Coke, Delta, and Home Depot be pressured to stay away from the Olympics if it us held in Beijing?

 

Let's not move the All Star game to Texas, they still have the death penalty.

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A very sad and dangerous situation when the highest ranking U.S. politicians pressure athletes and Georgia based companies to force this situation that actually financially hurts the people of the state they claim to be standing up for.

 

Are those same highest ranking politicians going to force a move of the Olympics from Beijing? I don't think we need to review the human rights abuses there?

 

Will Coke, Delta, and Home Depot be pressured to stay away from the Olympics if it us held in Beijing?

 

Yes let’s pretend this is all brand new stuff and the Super Bowl was once never moved out of Arizona because they didn’t celebrate Martin Luther King Day.

 

https://theundefeated.com/features/when-arizona-lost-the-super-bowl-because-the-state-didnt-recognize-martin-luther-king-jr-day/

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Are those same highest ranking politicians going to force a move of the Olympics from Beijing? I don't think we need to review the human rights abuses there?

 

Will Coke, Delta, and Home Depot be pressured to stay away from the Olympics if it us held in Beijing?

 

Very fair questions.

 

But we're all in danger of falling into the hole of an acrimonious political discussion here.

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Very fair questions.

 

But we're all in danger of falling into the hole of an acrimonious political discussion here.

 

 

You are absolutely right but on the other hand it is likely that these types of discussions aren't going to be avoided anywhere.

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The Georgia state legislature (and governor) are hilarious. Their election officials were responsible for counting the votes for the 2020 election, and, despite immense pressure from then President Trump, did in fact deliver a fair and accurate vote count.

 

Indeed, all our election officials are to be commended for doing their jobs well in a very difficult environment. Our national shame, culminating in the attack on our Capitol building, is the very public and virulent denial, led by then President Trump and endorsed by way too many US Senators, House Members, and state legislatures and governors, of the 2020 results.

 

The real problem, Georgia Republicans discovered, was exactly the same problem the Emperor (in the movie Amadeus) found with Mozart's first concert/opera: "too many notes," which in 2020 (and Jan 2021) became "too many votes." This time around Stacey Abrams was the composer/instigator.

 

I consider their new "Election Integrity" law to have little to do with election integrity--but don't think it is insurmountable. Time will tell, and the 2022 US House and Senate campaigns are barely a year away.

 

Meanwhile, the MLB decision seems to be an over-reaction, except that this All-Star Game was intended especially to honor Hank Aaron, who actually grew up in the Jim Crow era and as late as the 1975 and 1976 seasons was receiving racial threats when he made a run on Ruth's home run record (and surpassed it). Ironically, I believe the good citizens of Atlanta helped elect Biden and later those two Democratic US Senators 2+ months ago.

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As Sox75 asked, who really gets hurt by this?

 

It is a reaction. In the meantime, I'll continue to try to do anything without some from of proper identification. lol

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Baseball getting political. That's distressing.

 

Corporations have always been "political."

 

Baseball has been "political" in many ways, before- like being very slow to integrate blacks into MLB.

 

Perhaps, it's what they are getting "political" about is what distresses you.

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As Sox75 asked, who really gets hurt by this?

 

Despite my typically long lecture, I'm inclined to agree. On the other hand, if we the people aren't careful, we could be in for a 4th wave, which would mean sparse attendance at the All-Star Game.

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Corporations have always been "political."

 

Baseball has been "political" in many ways, before- like being very slow to integrate blacks into MLB.

 

Perhaps, it's what they are getting "political" about is what distresses you.

 

I beg to differ on integration. Branch Rickey, the Dodgers, Jackie Robinson, and the National League integrated MLB in 1947, a full year before President Truman integrated the armed services, in which African-Americans had served since 1776.

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Corporations have always been "political."

 

Baseball has been "political" in many ways, before- like being very slow to integrate blacks into MLB.

 

Perhaps, it's what they are getting "political" about is what distresses you.

 

You're kind of pushing some political buttons here.

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Corporations have always been "political."

 

Baseball has been "political" in many ways, before- like being very slow to integrate blacks into MLB.

 

Perhaps, it's what they are getting "political" about is what distresses you.

 

I do agree with your comments on "political." When Taft, all 300 pounds of him, threw that first pitch in 1910, it was beyond question a political act--so successful he came back and did it again in 1911. Reagan was the first to throw from the pitcher's mound (1988), and Carter never threw a first pitch while in office.

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You're kind of pushing some political buttons here.

 

I'm far guiltier than moonslav, and I apologize. But, heck, the Sox lost 3-0 yesterday, their fielding was awful, their hitting just as bad, and their bullpen less than awesome.

 

Even worse is the MLB blackout restriction with me living in North Carolina.

 

So, yeah, I'm ready to burn everything down and start over because I am mad as whatever and don't care who knows it.

 

So you get your guys, I'll get mine, and we can rumble.

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I beg to differ on integration. Branch Rickey, the Dodgers, Jackie Robinson, and the National League integrated MLB in 1947, a full year before President Truman integrated the armed services, in which African-Americans had served since 1776.

 

One guy is not "integration." Some teams took until the 60's to add just one player.

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You're kind of pushing some political buttons here.

 

I beg to differ, although almost anything said can be viewed as "political."

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I got my vaccine after they checked my ID. I bought beer at the store after they checked my ID. My doctor's office checked my ID before my appointment. I had to show an ID to pick up tickets at will call at a MLB game. But requiring an ID to vote? We can't have that.

 

I was just ready to order MLB Extra Innings on Directv to watch all the games this season. Not any more. The NBA is dead to me and now MLB isn't going to see my money or my viewership.

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Corporations have always been "political."

 

Baseball has been "political" in many ways, before- like being very slow to integrate blacks into MLB.

 

Perhaps, it's what they are getting "political" about is what distresses you.

By the time I was old enough to watch baseball, there was no issue of integrating the game. Sports was one of the few aspects of life where performance did the talking and the BS didn’t matter. So, no, it is not the topic that distresses me. I am not even following that legislation. I don’t live in GA, and I barely follow my own local politics. I just like to enjoy the beauty of the game. The rest of life happens for me when the game ends.
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I got my vaccine after they checked my ID. I bought beer at the store after they checked my ID. My doctor's office checked my ID before my appointment. I had to show an ID to pick up tickets at will call at a MLB game. But requiring an ID to vote? We can't have that.

 

I was just ready to order MLB Extra Innings on Directv to watch all the games this season. Not any more. The NBA is dead to me and now MLB isn't going to see my money or my viewership.

 

Absolutely your choice.

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If there wasn’t the dumb provision about not giving water to people in lines, the law change wouldn’t have made news and MLB would have not moved the AS game.
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Absolutely your choice.

 

It’s your money and time, don’t waste it on stuff that doesn’t make you happy.

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I got my vaccine after they checked my ID. I bought beer at the store after they checked my ID. My doctor's office checked my ID before my appointment. I had to show an ID to pick up tickets at will call at a MLB game. But requiring an ID to vote? We can't have that.

 

I was just ready to order MLB Extra Innings on Directv to watch all the games this season. Not any more. The NBA is dead to me and now MLB isn't going to see my money or my viewership.

 

It's more than just showing an ID- much more.

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If there wasn’t the dumb provision about not giving water to people in lines, the law change wouldn’t have made news and MLB would have not moved the AS game.

 

They can still get water from people who are working the polls, just not from outside groups that are only there to electioneer. Saying they can't get water while in line is just disinformation from the media and the left. Not true.

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Here in Texas, at 1:39 am a couple days ago, the GOP led Senate ended it's session and then started the next one at 1:40 am to meet the public notice requirement and then went on to enact a voter restriction bill that clearly targets only urban and minority groups. One bill actually targets just voting districts with large populations by restricting how many voting booths they can have per registered voter, but rural (mostly GOP and white) districts can have as many as they want. They also will now allow people to video voters standing in line (as if the intimidation many voters of color already have faced recently is not enough.) They banned overnight and drive thru voting that is used widely by minorities and those with disabilities (how is this stopping voter fraud, when these voters go through the same strict voter ID protocols as daytime and other voting methods?). Speaking of disabilities: now, anyone seeking a absentee ballot based on a disability will need a second "proof of disability" to be allowed to vote (not hard for people who have printers and scanners- like more well off citizens). There's much more beyond some of the strictest voter ID laws already on the books, here. For instance, college students must vote in their home district not at school, and they cannot use a student ID to vote, but a hunting License will be accepted.

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