Yankees 2021 Season Thread

[Bellhorn04]

I can't watch Yankee games for the same reason I can't watch Sox games, so I haven't personally witnessed Judge, so I can't weigh in on his health.

 

A bunch of Yankee fans were commenting on how slowly he's been moving in the outfield. I looked up his fielding and base-running stats and they're hugely in minus territory, so it seems to be a stone cold fact there's something wrong with his mobility.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Matt Harvey has done nothing but throwing meatballs over the heart of the plate. Results through 5 innings? One single.

 

So much for the O's pitching jump starting the offense. Maybe the lineup would have more luck against the alternate site team.

[jacksonianmarch]

Time to fire Thames. Can’t fire the players, so gotta go after a coach

[jacksonianmarch]

Inexcusable

[moonslav59]

Now, that's how you beat....errr....I mean....lose to the O's!

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Devin Garcia sucks. This guy was a total train wreck in spring training. Maybe he has a future as a bullpen arm, but he isn't much of a starting pitching prospect, ignore the hype.

 

Torres is a bad shortstop, Cashman should have known better. You move Torres to 3b and trade Urshela and bring in a real defensive SS, but this should have been done in the offseason. I was psyched when the Yankees resigned Lemahieu, I figured he was due for a decline. He is 32 years old and was never going to sustain that .360 BA. The Yankees have too many sluggers, high strikeout guys in Stanton, Judge, Sanchez. How many Dave Kingmans can you have in a lineup? It doesn't work.

 

And then Cashman makes a bad situation worse by trading for R.Odor -- LOL.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Fan_since_Boggs

[moonslav59]

Weird how no Yankee fan thought these weaknesses were all that dominating back in March.

[Bellhorn04]

Yankee fans were all over Judge tonight as he was again moving slowly in the field and on the base paths, in costly ways. Some accused him of loafing. Seems much more likely he's got an injury, but if so why is he playing?

[moonslav59]

Yankee fans were all over Judge tonight as he was again moving slowly in the field and on the base paths, in costly ways. Some accused him of loafing. Seems much more likely he's got an injury, but if so why is he playing?

 

Their pumped up tremendous depth was all a mirage.

 

(They had to go out and get Odor, and he was in the clean up slot, yesterday.)

[iortiz]

I think you're too quick to stomp on their throats. They showed signs of life this weekend. They are going to turn it around. Nobody denies the talent on their roster. Are you suggesting that Stanton, Judge, and Torres aren't talented? Are they not perennial all-stars? A team this talented won't struggle forever. Suggesting that their offense is not great is also suggesting that their offense is not talented. The skill is there. It's just a question of when they will come around.

 

It’s an overrated team. Have no pitching, bad defense and the injuries are on the clock to come to Judge, Stanton, Sanchez, etc.

 

What did I miss?

[moonslav59]

It’s an overrated team. Have no pitching, bad defense and the injuries are on the clock to come to Judge, Stanton, Sanchez, etc.

 

What did I miss?

 

Sounds like the Sox, too.

[jacksonianmarch]

Ultimately, this team is inexcuseably bad. The pitching has been really, really good. Now, breaking it down, it is bullpen and Cole, but the ERA of the team is stupid low. The defense sucks. The baserunning sucks. The offense sucks. They aren't this bad, but with every passing game, they maybe arent all that good.

[iortiz]

Sounds like the Sox, too.

 

Sox are just the opposite. Underrated.

[moonslav59]

Ultimately, this team is inexcuseably bad. The pitching has been really, really good. Now, breaking it down, it is bullpen and Cole, but the ERA of the team is stupid low. The defense sucks. The baserunning sucks. The offense sucks. They aren't this bad, but with every passing game, they maybe arent all that good.

 

Your offense should improve, but there are serious questions about it being top 4 or 5, as many projected. Major injuries haven't really started,except at 1B.

 

Your D and base running was known to suck in March, but maybe it was glossed over by all the hype directed at the offense and pen and the phantom depth.

[moonslav59]

Sox are just the opposite. Underrated.

 

We certainly could surprise, some more. We have 4-5 guys hitting horrifically, right now, and how good could we be, if they just hit their career norms? Then, there's Sale's return and maybe something from Houck, when we bring him up for his buck-twenty innings.

 

Chances are we won't keep up this pace, but I'm not giving up my optimism.

 

That doesn't hide the fact that our defense sucks.

 

Our base running sucks.

 

2 or 3 of our starters have bad numbers or indicators their ERA is much better than it should be.

 

Our pen has done very well and was expected to suck. Let's see what happens.

 

[iortiz]

We certainly could surprise, some more. We have 4-5 guys hitting horrifically, right now, and how good could we be, if they just hit their career norms? Then, there's Sale's return and maybe something from Houck, when we bring him up for his buck-twenty innings.

 

Chances are we won't keep up this pace, but I'm not giving up my optimism.

 

That doesn't hide the fact that our defense sucks.

 

Our base running sucks.

 

2 or 3 of our starters have bad numbers or indicators their ERA is much better than it should be.

 

Our pen has done very well and was expected to suck. Let's see what happens.

 

Sox are taking one day at a time. There’s no pressure in that locker room. Cora knows it and is using it as an advantage to take the best of every single member. This ain’t a team of stars but a team of men.

[moonslav59]

Sox are taking one day at a time. There’s no pressure in that locker room. Cora knows it and is using it as an advantage to take the best of every single member. This ain’t a team of stars but a team of men.

 

I'm loving this team and have always been Cora's biggest supporter.

 

I'm loving what Bloom has done. He's building a team for the future while constructing a very exciting team to watch that was supposed to be a "bridge" to 2022 and beyond.

 

This team can win- no doubt, but we still have some mega weak areas. The good thing is, so does everyone else in the AL.

[Thunder]

Sox are taking one day at a time. There’s no pressure in that locker room. Cora knows it and is using it as an advantage to take the best of every single member. This ain’t a team of stars but a team of men.

 

During the 9 game win streak, I referred to this team as an "island of misfits". Seems to be true. They are playing with house money. They know that there is little to no pressure on them to go anywhere this year, and you can see how much fun they are having as a result, like with the shopping cart stuff and waving back to the dugout after any XBH.

 

The Yankees meanwhile, look like they have stage fright, or at least that the lights of the spotlight are too bright. Those famous NY tabloids wrote them in as AL champs very early in the offseason, and now that they are struggling, every little mistake gets exaggerated, and you start overthinking the basics. You start trying too hard to win, and that's part of what's led to the HR or bust mindset at the plate.

[moonslav59]

During the 9 game win streak, I referred to this team as an "island of misfits". Seems to be true. They are playing with house money. They know that there is little to no pressure on them to go anywhere this year, and you can see how much fun they are having as a result, like with the shopping cart stuff and waving back to the dugout after any XBH.

 

The Yankees meanwhile, look like they have stage fright, or at least that the lights of the spotlight are too bright. Those famous NY tabloids wrote them in as AL champs very early in the offseason, and now that they are struggling, every little mistake gets exaggerated, and you start overthinking the basics. You start trying too hard to win, and that's part of what's led to the HR or bust mindset at the plate.

 

Well said, and that HR or bust mentality is prevalent in MLB, today- on all teams, to some extent.

 

I do think these trends can turn on a dime. The Yanks can win 9 straight at any given moment, and we have yet to see how the Sox might react after losing 8 or 10 games, at some point.

 

Our team still has some glaring weaknesses that were exposed in that first series against the O's. Those weaknesses will lose us games, again. The team just has to try and limit those times, and it really helps having a couple stoppers like ERod and Eovaldi, this year.

 

Pivetta has held his own, but we really need 1-2 guys out of Richards, Pivetta, Perez and Houck (maybe Whitlock, at some point) to hold the fort down, until Sale returns.

[Thunder]

Well said, and that HR or bust mentality is prevalent in MLB, today- on all teams, to some extent.

 

I do think these trends can turn on a dime. The Yanks can win 9 straight at any given moment, and we have yet to see how the Sox might react after losing 8 or 10 games, at some point.

 

Our team still has some glaring weaknesses that were exposed in that first series against the O's. Those weaknesses will lose us games, again. The team just has to try and limit those times, and it really helps having a couple stoppers like ERod and Eovaldi, this year.

 

Pivetta has held his own, but we really need 1-2 guys out of Richards, Pivetta, Perez and Houck (maybe Whitlock, at some point) to hold the fort down, until Sale returns.

 

I agree. I still think the Yankees will finish higher than us in the standings. That's the uniqueness of the 162 game MLB season. It's very hard not to revert to your true capability at some point.

[Bellhorn04]

I agree. I still think the Yankees will finish higher than us in the standings. That's the uniqueness of the 162 game MLB season. It's very hard not to revert to your true capability at some point.

 

I think the Yankees are in deep trouble.

 

I would not make a straight-up bet that we finish ahead of them, but if I was given odds of 2.5 to 1 or better, I would take it.

[Thunder]

I think the Yankees are in deep trouble.

 

I would not make a straight-up bet that we finish ahead of them, but if I was given odds of 2.5 to 1 or better, I would take it.

 

If they don't come around, and miss the playoffs, it will be one of the more notable choke jobs/disappointments in recent memory

[Bellhorn04]

If they don't come around, and miss the playoffs, it will be one of the more notable choke jobs/disappointments in recent memory

 

Maybe. Most years there are one or two teams that fall well below expectations.

 

It's surprising when it's the Yankees because they have such a consistent record of making the playoffs or close to it.

[iortiz]

I think the Yankees are in deep trouble.

 

I would not make a straight-up bet that we finish ahead of them, but if I was given odds of 2.5 to 1 or better, I would take it.

 

If the Sox are in the mix in the division by Summer, I like our chances to win it because I believe they will splash and add some master pieces where needed before the trade deadline, making this team even more dangerous.

[Thunder]

If the Sox are in the mix in the division by Summer, I like our chances to win it because I believe they will splash and add some master pieces where needed before the trade deadline, making this team even more dangerous.

 

When has Bloom been known to make a splash?

[iortiz]

When has Bloom been known to make a splash?

 

Friedman in LA did it when they needed (Mookie)—unlike in TB where he couldn't even he wanted.

 

Bloom is his guy and is in the same scenario. IMO he won't hesitate if he sees a legit chance to win it all.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Those famous NY tabloids wrote them in as AL champs very early in the offseason, .

 

It wasn't just the NY papers, but every single media outlet that covers baseball. They had me wondering if they knew something that I didn't, like the Yankees had some secret weapons who were actually a good catcher, a sure-handed shortstop, and three starting pitchers who sat out 2020 and would all be healthy and lights-out.

[moonslav59]

If the Sox are in the mix in the division by Summer, I like our chances to win it because I believe they will splash and add some master pieces where needed before the trade deadline, making this team even more dangerous.

 

I do think we might add pieces, but I doubt we go over the tax line, and other teams will add players, too.

[dgalehouse]

Right now , the Yankees are still in the " this club is too good to keep playing this poorly " mode . At what point does that turn to " concern" ? And when does " concern " turn to " panic " ? As noted before , Hal seems to be a lot more patient than his old man was . If George were still alive, heads would already be rolling in the Bronx.

[jacksonianmarch]

Right now , the Yankees are still in the " this club is too good to keep playing this poorly " mode . At what point does that turn to " concern" ? And when does " concern " turn to " panic " ? As noted before , Hal seems to be a lot more patient than his old man was . If George were still alive, heads would already be rolling in the Bronx.

 

I kinda wish the team would start making some moves, but I’m more a meddling person than a patient one