Roenicke fired

[Thunder]

A-rod was not going to the mound; he was just pissed for being hit. "The Captain" took a cheap shot. Catchers ordinarily just stand in the way if that happens.

 

But if anybody in the world deserves a cheap shot, it's A-Rod

[notin]

That he is but he is the virtual in house flack. Gibbons was one of the few who was flown in for an interview prior to RR's hiring. And as they say where there is smoke.

 

It is possible the only reason Gibbons is being mentioned is that he was a candidate before. However, that was for the interim position and he finished behind Roenicke...

[Elktonnick]

Chaim Bloom's statement on the managerial search proves he is taking courses at the Bill Belichick school of public relations Two Boston Sportswriters Jason Mastrodonato and John Tomase upon hearing Bloom's remarks came to exactly opposite conclusions, one believing Cora will definitely be back, the other definitely not. Way to go Chaim!!! Keep them guessing.

[Bellhorn04]

So the top candidates appear to be:

 

Matt Quatraro - as first mentioned here by notin

Alex Cora

[Elktonnick]

It is possible the only reason Gibbons is being mentioned is that he was a candidate before. However, that was for the interim position and he finished behind Roenicke...

 

He may have finished behind Roenicke because it was an interim position. The larger point is speculation about the managerial position is the only news about the Red Sox that is keeping the club in the public eye. Chaim is doing a superb job of keeping everyone guessing. His public statements are masterful at saying absolutely enough to keep everyone interested without showing his hand. I have absolutely no idea whether Cora will be back and neither does anyone else outside a very close circle in the Red Sox front office and perhaps Alex Cora himself. Another point to consider there is a lot of chatter that Dombrowski maybe the next Chief of Baseball Operation for the Angels. If DD does get that job, will he fire Maddon and tap Cora to mange there ?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

A-rod was not going to the mound; he was just pissed for being hit. "The Captain" took a cheap shot. Catchers ordinarily just stand in the way if that happens.

 

It's no cheap shot when the mouth you're mitt-stuffing just challenged you to do it; watch the video again.

[Thunder]

So the top candidates appear to be:

 

Matt Quatraro - as first mentioned here by notin

Alex Cora

 

Don't give him the satisfaction. He doesn't need the ego boost. Act surprised when he gets hired

[notin]

He may have finished behind Roenicke because it was an interim position. The larger point is speculation about the managerial position is the only news about the Red Sox that is keeping the club in the public eye. Chaim is doing a superb job of keeping everyone guessing. His public statements are masterful at saying absolutely enough to keep everyone interested without showing his hand. I have absolutely no idea whether Cora will be back and neither does anyone else outside a very close circle in the Red Sox front office and perhaps Alex Cora himself. Another point to consider there is a lot of chatter that Dombrowski maybe the next Chief of Baseball Operation for the Angels. If DD does get that job, will he fire Maddon and tap Cora to mange there ?

 

And it is also possible that Bloom is waiting to see if DD (or whoever, really) gets the Angels' job and fires Maddon, who is Bloom's former manager, and whose name does carry sufficient PR weight. (Chicago hired him solely for that reason, even firing newly hired Rick Renteria to accommodate Maddon.)

 

The one point I would find makes very little sense is passing over Gibbons solely because it was an interim position. If Gibbons was the guy he wanted, there is no point in waiting it out, especially since it leaves the possibility of Gibbons getting another position elsewhere. If he actually liked Gibbons, he would very likely already be here...

[notin]

Don't give him the satisfaction. He doesn't need the ego boost. Act surprised when he gets hired

 

Too late

[Elktonnick]

And it is also possible that Bloom is waiting to see if DD (or whoever, really) gets the Angels' job and fires Maddon, who is Bloom's former manager, and whose name does carry sufficient PR weight. (Chicago hired him solely for that reason, even firing newly hired Rick Renteria to accommodate Maddon.)

 

The one point I would find makes very little sense is passing over Gibbons solely because it was an interim position. If Gibbons was the guy he wanted, there is no point in waiting it out, especially since it leaves the possibility of Gibbons getting another position elsewhere. If he actually liked Gibbons, he would very likely already be here...

 

All interesting points. Not to quibble but Gibbons may not have wanted to take an interim job. I think we can all agree that Bloom has a lot of options to consider regarding a new manager and he will give nothing away until he is ready to do so.

[Thunder]

If we go with Quatraro, do we have to wait until the Rays are done playing this season to announce him? There's a rule like that in the NFL

[Bellhorn04]

It's no cheap shot when the mouth you're mitt-stuffing just challenged you to do it; watch the video again.

 

Arguing whether is was a cheap shot or not is kind of missing the point.

 

Whether it's true or not, that incident was credited with helping to turn the 2004 season around for the Sox. They had lost a tough one to the Yanks the night before, and they were losing this game. They were not playing well. And this was the game in which Mueller hit the home run off Rivera for a stunning Sox victory.

[notin]

Arguing whether is was a cheap shot or not is kind of missing the point.

 

Whether it's true or not, that incident was credited with helping to turn the 2004 season around for the Sox. They had lost a tough one to the Yanks the night before, and they were losing this game. They were not playing well. And this was the game in which Mueller hit the home run off Rivera for a stunning Sox victory.

 

I tend to think it was Mueller who really turned everything around. If he doesn't hit that home run, we wouldn't view Varitek/ARod altercation the same way.

 

It's just part of the Saga of Bill Mueller in 2004, I guess.. The man singles of Rivera in the ninth inning of game 4 of the ALCS to kickstart the most improbable comeback in MLB history, and all anyone talks about is Roberts' stolen base...

Edited September 30, 2020 by notin

[mvp 78]

Chaim Bloom's statement on the managerial search proves he is taking courses at the Bill Belichick school of public relations Two Boston Sportswriters Jason Mastrodonato and John Tomase upon hearing Bloom's remarks came to exactly opposite conclusions, one believing Cora will definitely be back, the other definitely not. Way to go Chaim!!! Keep them guessing.

 

I would agree. I don't think it's Bloom's job to tell the media everything they want to hear. I feel this ownership has been too open at times.

[Bellhorn04]

I tend to think it was Mueller who really turned everything around. If he doesn't hit that home run, we wouldn't view Varitek/ARod altercation the same way.

 

It's just part of the Saga of Bill Mueller in 2004, I guess.. The man singles of Rivera in the ninth inning of game 4 of the ALCS to kickstart the most improbable comeback in MLB history, and all anyone talks about is Roberts' stolen base...

 

Ah yes, but us wise Sox fans know all about Mueller.

[mvp 78]

Ah yes, but us wise Sox fans know all about Mueller.

 

Greatest Sox 3B of all time.

[mvp 78]

 

I think this was his coming out party.

[notin]

Greatest Sox 3B of all time.

 

Most Heroic Sox 3B of all time? Yes.

 

But two Sox third basemen are in Cooperstown...

[mvp 78]

Most Heroic Sox 3B of all time? Yes.

 

But two Sox third basemen are in Cooperstown...

 

Pooperstown. Boggs never one anything for the Sox. Players from 100 years ago don't count.

[Thunder]

Ah yes, but us wise Sox fans know all about Mueller.

 

Hell, even I remember him, and I turned 6 during the 04 ALCS

[Bellhorn04]

I tend to think it was Mueller who really turned everything around. If he doesn't hit that home run, we wouldn't view Varitek/ARod altercation the same way.

 

It's just part of the Saga of Bill Mueller in 2004, I guess.. The man singles of Rivera in the ninth inning of game 4 of the ALCS to kickstart the most improbable comeback in MLB history, and all anyone talks about is Roberts' stolen base...

 

Subsequent events do play a big role in how some events are viewed.

 

If we hadn't won Games 5, 6 and 7, Bill Mueller's heroic exploits would have been viewed somewhat like Dave Henderson's in 1986.

[Bellhorn04]

Hell, even I remember him, and I turned 6 during the 04 ALCS

 

What matters is you appreciate that Mueller's hit was as important as Roberts's stolen base.

[Thunder]

What matters is you appreciate that Mueller's hit was as important as Roberts's stolen base.

 

I didn't say I remembered that game, or even that series. LOL

[notin]

Subsequent events do play a big role in how some events are viewed.

 

If we hadn't won Games 5, 6 and 7, Bill Mueller's heroic exploits would have been viewed somewhat like Dave Henderson's in 1986.

 

But the Sox won the game with Henderson's big home run off Donnie Moore (on Hendu's sac fly in extra innings). What was forgotten was Steve Crawford getting out of that bases loaded, no one out jam in the ninth allowing only the tying run.

 

Or were you referring to Henderson's home run in game 6 of the WS that year that would have been the winning run had not the Aguilera meltdown that culminated in the most overblown error in MLB history?

[mvp 78]

But the Sox won the game with Henderson's big home run off Donnie Moore (on Hendu's sac fly in extra innings). What was forgotten was Steve Crawford getting out of that bases loaded, no one out jam in the ninth allowing only the tying run.

 

Or were you referring to Henderson's home run in game 6 of the WS that year that would have been the winning run had not the Aguilera meltdown that culminated in the most overblown error in MLB history?

 

Hendu can have a pinch hitting spot on my all time team.

[Bellhorn04]

Or were you referring to Henderson's home run in game 6 of the WS that year that would have been the winning run had not the Aguilera meltdown that culminated in the most overblown error in MLB history?

 

I was referring to this. Aguilera was the Mets pitcher he hit it off.

 

Years later, Aguilera would have his own big moment for the Red Sox, and it was not a good one.

[mvp 78]

I was referring to this. Aguilera was the Mets pitcher he hit it off.

 

Years later, Aguilera would have his own big moment for the Red Sox, and it was not a good one.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5zyEe76oxs

 

Albert Belle was so good then.

[notin]

I was referring to this. Aguilera was the Mets pitcher he hit it off.

 

Years later, Aguilera would have his own big moment for the Red Sox, and it was not a good one.

 

You're right. Calvin Shiraldi was the Sox pitcher who collapsed, getting the first 2 out and then giving up singles to Carter, Mitchell and Knight...

[notin]

Hendu can have a pinch hitting spot on my all time team.

 

Over Rick Miller?

[moonslav59]

Hendu can have a pinch hitting spot on my all time team.

 

He was about to be the goat of that game after a fly ball that was not going to be a HR popped out of his glove and went over the fence for a HR that gave the Angels the lead.

 

What an amazing story that game was.