MLB drug policy

[jad]

So although mj is no longer banned, according to SI, players are subject to penalties for showing up high to games or practices.

I'm aware of Doc Ellis' claim (confirmed by a guy I know who 'claims' to know him--which is about as valid evidence as saying a friend of my cousin Vinnie states for a fact that ...) that he pitched a game tripping on acid. (Speaking only for myself, I very much doubt I could even grasp the concept "Game-hood" in those circumstances). But since the emergence of dope pretty much coincided with the end of my organized sports career, I have a question: Can you play (or have you played) baseball stoned? And how does it affect your performance?

 

And hell, while we're here, how about other sports:

Tennis? Golf?

 

Weed only, please. I think from pro-sports we already know what can be done if you're whacked out on speed or opioids.

Edited February 29, 2020 by jad

[Bellhorn04]

Playing pickup baseball stoned could be fun.

 

But real baseball would be one of the hardest games to play stoned, because your reaction times would be slowed down.

 

I've played golf stoned. It doesn't affect your full swing very much but it can really hurt your putting.

 

Back in the day I did know some guys who swore they played games like touch football and basketball as well or better when they were high.

[Sox75]

I have reached out to both Panda and HanRam to see what it was like for them?

I'm fairly certain they would say that it depends on the day?

Some $h!+ they were smoking had them locked in, but by and large, they were pretty mushy at the end.

 

JUST A GUESS.... but the big problem for these 2 was being "WASTED OFF THEIR AR$$ES" while injured at the end of 2015, and becoming a huge distraction that particular disaster year?

 

It's been a while, but I recall making the accusation all through 2015, that both often looked wasted.

Do I have an evidence? NOPE! and i was roundly criticized for saying so at the time. Maybe fairly criticized, considering the fact that I had no evidence.

 

HOWEVER .... For anybody who has ever played a high focus and high detail game like baseball, playing stoned would never be a great idea.

 

Hitting, like putting, would be 'hit & miss." You might get lucky & lock on to a fastball, but feeling the breaking ball would be tough at best.

 

Fielding a spot like 3rd base would be next to impossible.

 

Both guys, TO ME and perhaps me alone, looked and acted high a good deal if 2015. NOT JUST ON THE FIELD.

The "goofing" on the bench, and all through the dugout looked off the charts. Close ups looked to me showed WASTED eyes.

 

No idea if I'm right to this day, but I'd put an easy $1,000 with anybody willing to make the bet. Kind of a mute point, as it is highly unlikely that it would ever come out.

 

Bottom line? For any kid trying to make it in mlb, it would be about the worst move possible.

 

Surfing the internet in your basement and eating cheetos?

Oh yeh! Solid move!

Edited February 29, 2020 by Sox75

[oldmaninthevegasdesert]

Yeah in high school and California J.C. level, not every game but enough to give an honest assessment

Positives

1. the game slowed down

2. was able to distinguish and see the seems of the baseball on the baseball easier especially breaking pitches

Negative, and it was a big one

1. Cottonmouth which led to excessive fluid intake and a bloated feeling....which led me to give it up before games during my first year at Merced J.C

[Sox75]

ok....

 

The "bloating" issue solves the in game belt-buckle question about Panda. Sure! We knew he was buying bigger belts well before that, but.... :0 LOL

 

Now.... as for your claims of "seeing the stitches on the ball?"

 

Any chance, like Pablo again, you just 'thought' you were seeing the stitches? Is this anecdotal, or did you have baseball hitting stats that confirmed that you hit better?

[jad]

Of course, then there's Bernie Carbo, but I suppose with him, there's no real "control" since there's no evidence he ever went to the plate in his perfect mind:

Here's what he said about the 1975 series: "I probably smoked two joints, drank about three or four beers, got to the ballpark, took some [amphetamines], took a pain pill, drank a cup of coffee, chewed some tobacco, had a cigarette, and got up to the plate and hit,'' Carbo said.

[Sox75]

Of course, then there's Bernie Carbo, but I suppose with him, there's no real "control" since there's no evidence he ever went to the plate in his perfect mind:

Here's what he said about the 1975 series: "I probably smoked two joints, drank about three or four beers, got to the ballpark, took some [amphetamines], took a pain pill, drank a cup of coffee, chewed some tobacco, had a cigarette, and got up to the plate and hit,'' Carbo said.

 

Now that's what I'm talking about!

"Old school."

Good clean baseball. Nothin but a love of the game.

 

[Slasher9]

competitive baseball? smoking weed would adversely affect your performance and pose danger. (slower reaction time).

backyard baseball or slow pitch softball league? smoking weed would increase the fun.

playing video games high is completely encouraged.

[mvp 78]

competitive baseball? smoking weed would adversely affect your performance and pose danger. (slower reaction time).

backyard baseball or slow pitch softball league? smoking weed would increase the fun.

playing video games high is completely encouraged.

 

Well, scouting HS baseball and playing competitive softball is just the same as if it were the MLB!

[Slasher9]

I have reached out to both Panda and HanRam to see what it was like for them?

I'm fairly certain they would say that it depends on the day?

Some $h!+ they were smoking had them locked in, but by and large, they were pretty mushy at the end.

 

JUST A GUESS.... but the big problem for these 2 was being "WASTED OFF THEIR AR$$ES" while injured at the end of 2015, and becoming a huge distraction that particular disaster year?

 

It's been a while, but I recall making the accusation all through 2015, that both often looked wasted.

Do I have an evidence? NOPE! and i was roundly criticized for saying so at the time. Maybe fairly criticized, considering the fact that I had no evidence.

 

HOWEVER .... For anybody who has ever played a high focus and high detail game like baseball, playing stoned would never be a great idea.

 

Hitting, like putting, would be 'hit & miss." You might get lucky & lock on to a fastball, but feeling the breaking ball would be tough at best.

 

Fielding a spot like 3rd base would be next to impossible.

 

Both guys, TO ME and perhaps me alone, looked and acted high a good deal if 2015. NOT JUST ON THE FIELD.

The "goofing" on the bench, and all through the dugout looked off the charts. Close ups looked to me showed WASTED eyes.

 

No idea if I'm right to this day, but I'd put an easy $1,000 with anybody willing to make the bet. Kind of a mute point, as it is highly unlikely that it would ever come out.

 

Bottom line? For any kid trying to make it in mlb, it would be about the worst move possible.

 

Surfing the internet in your basement and eating cheetos?

Oh yeh! Solid move!

 

oh boy.

showing your true colors again.

[mvp 78]

Other notable people who have goofed around on the bench:

Big Papi

Pedro

Mookie

Xander

Devers

Brock Holt

VMart

 

Boy, it really sticks in my craw when a player has personality!

[Slasher9]

Other notable people who have goofed around on the bench:

Big Papi

Pedro

Mookie

Xander

Devers

Brock Holt

VMart

 

Boy, it really sticks in my craw when a player has personality!

 

brock is a dirt dog tho, so doesnt belong on this list of bad hombres.

[mvp 78]

brock is a dirt dog tho, so doesnt belong on this list of bad hombres.

 

Other dirty dogs:

Greenwell

Evans

Gedman

Youk

Jody Reed

Marty Barrett

Wade Boggs

Mike Lowell

Billy Mueller

Nomar

Bill Buckner

 

Not dirty dogs:

Jim Rice

David Henderson

Don Baylor

Oil Can Boyd

Adrian Beltre

Ellis Burks

Mo Vaughn

Pokey Reese

Otis Nixon

[notin]

Other dirty dogs:

Greenwell

Evans

Gedman

Youk

Jody Reed

Marty Barrett

Wade Boggs

Mike Lowell

Billy Mueller

Nomar

Bill Buckner

 

Not dirty dogs:

Jim Rice

David Henderson

Don Baylor

Oil Can Boyd

Adrian Beltre

Ellis Burks

Mo Vaughn

Pokey Reese

Otis Nixon

 

 

First of all, you left out the biggest Dirt Dog of all time. A fellow who went by Trot.

 

 

But more important, there is a definite (yet not perfect) racial trend in the players you label as dirt dogs and those you don't...

[mvp 78]

First of all, you left out the biggest Dirt Dog of all time. A fellow who went by Trot.

 

 

But more important, there is a definite (yet not perfect) racial trend in the players you label as dirt dogs and those you don't...

1. Totally forgot about Trot!

2. Hmmm, interesting theory. Maybe Slasher can explain.

[illinoisredsox]

Other dirty dogs:

Greenwell

Evans

Gedman

Youk

Jody Reed

Marty Barrett

Wade Boggs

Mike Lowell

Billy Mueller

Nomar

Bill Buckner

 

Not dirty dogs:

Jim Rice

David Henderson

Don Baylor

Oil Can Boyd

Adrian Beltre

Ellis Burks

Mo Vaughn

Pokey Reese

Otis Nixon

 

Dirt dog = scrappy player

 

 

Nomar was not a dirt dog (Jeter wasn’t one either but he was closer to one than Nomar). Evans was not a dirt dog. Boggs was close but I don’t put him in that category.

 

Baylor might qualify; any player who gets hit by a pitch as often has he did has to be under consideration for that description. Pokey Reese might qualify. He was a player of very modest ability who managed an 8 year career. I think Boyd qualifies also, if a pitcher can. Modest ability who stuck around for 10 years, amassing very pedestrian stats.

Edited March 3, 2020 by illinoisredsox

[notin]

1. Totally forgot about Trot!

2. Hmmm, interesting theory. Maybe Slasher can explain.

 

Forgetting Trot was inexcusable. I could see forgetting Chris Stynes.

 

I am not sure I want to hear the explanation. I will just assume it was a coincidence that all the white guys are dirt dogs and all the black guys are not, since the lists were not perfectly racially bound with the dirt dog list having a single Cuban on it and the non-dirt list having a single Dominican...

[mvp 78]

Sorry, but the only color I see is the dirt on the uniform.

[notin]

Sorry, but the only color I see is the dirt on the uniform.

 

Except on Trot's...

[mvp 78]

Except on Trot's...

 

He was so dirty, he was camouflaged into the field.

 

I believe he was the OG Dirt Dog TM too.

[notin]

He was so dirty, he was camouflaged into the field.

 

I believe he was the OG Dirt Dog TM too.

 

He was hurt alot. Some of that dirt on his uniform could have come from simply not doing laundry...

[mvp 78]

He was hurt alot. Some of that dirt on his uniform could have come from simply not doing laundry...

 

His hat was straight nasty though. Yuck.

[notin]

His hat was straight nasty though. Yuck.

 

Sorta supports my laundry theory. Not like players only have one hat...

[mvp 78]

Sorta supports my laundry theory. Not like players only have one hat...

 

He prolly did. I’m sure it smelled like the old Fenway troughs too.

[TylerD]

Also not allowed to do blow in between innings. These rules are getting out of hand.

[Slasher9]

Trot was the OG.

pedroia needs to be on the list too.

JBj need not apply.

[Slasher9]

I am not sure I want to hear the explanation. I will just assume it was a coincidence that all the white guys are dirt dogs and all the black guys are not, since the lists were not perfectly racially bound with the dirt dog list having a single Cuban on it and the non-dirt list having a single Dominican...

 

this should help explain:

[mvp 78]

this should help explain:

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AP is not a comrade.

[mvp 78]

Trot was the OG.

pedroia needs to be on the list too.

JBj need not apply.

 

I heard they never even have to wash JBJ's shirt because it stays so clean. SMDH.

[Slasher9]

I heard they never even have to wash JBJ's shirt because it stays so clean. SMDH.

 

plus sometimes he jogs...JOGS...to the spot to catch a flyball. he should be running full speed and then wait!!!!!