A Realistic View at 2020: Part II

[harmony]

To be fair, I’ve seen the “long run ending in dropped ball” scored a hit sometimes...

Check out the video of Kyle Seager's two-run "single" on Monday:

 

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[moonslav59]

Check out the video of Kyle Seager's two-run "single" on Monday:

 

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I've seen much worse called hits. This play was hard, He was running hard and nearing the wall.

[jacksonianmarch]

Probably time to close this thread

[illinoisredsox]

Probably time to close this thread

 

Why? Perfect ending to a s*** season.

 

Don’t like it? Don’t read it any further or participate in it.

[harmony]

Why? Perfect ending to a s*** season.

 

Don’t like it? Don’t read it any further or participate in it.

Here's hoping your day improves.

[moonslav59]

Final Sox OPS for 2020 (100+ PAs unless noted):

 

1.177 Moreland (79 PAs)

.959 Dalbec (90)

.875 Puello (11)

.867 Bogey

.857 Plawecki (87)

.844 Verdugo

.844 Munoz (45)

.833 Grullon (4)

.814 JBJ

.801 Vazquez

.795 Pillar

.793 Devers

.736 Arroyo (54)

 

.680 JD

.644 Arauz (79)

.636 Chavis

.617 Peraza

 

.442 Beni (52)

.355 Lin (57)

[notin]

Probably time to close this thread

 

Silly Bronx Bomber fan.

 

No Red Sox season is truly over until the Yankees are eliminated and their fans blame the umpires for it, often with conspiracy theories...

[moonslav59]

Silly Bronx Bomber fan.

 

No Red Sox season is truly over until the Yankees are eliminated and their fans blame the umpires for it, often with conspiracy theories...

 

They won't play MN for at least 2 rounds.

 

They are toast.

[moonslav59]

The final 2 weeks of 2020:

 

Team 7-5 3.57

 

Houck 3-0 0.53 (17 IP)

Eovaldi 2-0 0.00 (11 IP)

Pivetta 2-0 1.80 (10 IP)

Mazza 0-1 2.70 (10 IP)

Perez 0-1 5.40 (10 IP)

 

Weber 0-1 0.00 (7 IP)/ 2.37 ERA in last 19 IP

Barnes 0-0 2.08 (4.1 IP) 3 svs

Stock 0-0 0.00 ( 4 IP)

Tapia 0-0 0.00 (3.1 IP)

[moonslav59]

Last 28 Days Sox OPS:

.991 JBJ

.959 Vaz

.918 Dalbec

 

.877 Plawecki

.851 Devers

.844 Munoz

.839 Verdugo

 

.788 Bogey

 

.736 Arroyo

.687 JD

 

.598 Arauz

.400 Lin

[moonslav59]

Final L-R Splits

vs RHP

.903 Dalbec

.890 Devers

.888 Munoz

.876 Verdugo

.865 Munoz

.830 Plawecki

.809 Vaz

.800 Bogey

.776 JBJ

.680 JD

.655 Peraza

.650 Chavis

.621 Arauz

.456 Beni

 

vs LHP

1.146 Dalbec

1.030 Bogey

.927 Pillar

.911 JBJ

.900 Plawecki

.798 Vaz

.780 Verdugo

.690 JD

.676 Arauz

.635 Chavis

.611 Devers

.589 Peraza

.474 Arroyo

.383 Lin

.364 Beni

[moonslav59]

We bounced back at the end and avoided having one of the worst 9 Sox winning percentages of all time.

 

.279 1932

.301 1926

.309 1925

.331 1927

.338 1930

.373 1928

.377 1929 (The worst 7 seasons were within 8 years 1925-1932 and the 1931 season was 12th worst at .408!)

.383 1965 (makes the 1967 season all the more magical)

.396 1922

.400 2020

.401 1923

.408 1931

.422 1960

.423 1933

.426 2012

.435 1924

.438 2014

.444 1964

.444 1966

[Kimmi]

I get that, but you didn't answer my question.

 

I know you have been on the side of the "cliff" being unavoidable, as I was, but I'm wondering when you expected it to arrive?

 

To me,last year's performance and and the reset priority being known were big clues that the cliff had already arrived.

 

Sure, without the Sale and ERod health issues, we'd have been "better," but both of them are signed through 2021 or longer, so were you thinking 2022 or 2023?

 

There were several variables to consider, so I'm not sure I had a specific year in mind, but 2020 or 2021. I was thinking the cliff would occur when the Red Sox decided to reset. I wasn't convinced that they were going to reset this year, and thought it would actually make more sense to wait until next year to reset because of the talent still on the team.

[Kimmi]

That's why teams use advanced defensive metrics such as those provided at Statcast.

 

Amen, brother.

 

That's all that needs to be said.

[moonslav59]

There were several variables to consider, so I'm not sure I had a specific year in mind, but 2020 or 2021. I was thinking the cliff would occur when the Red Sox decided to reset. I wasn't convinced that they were going to reset this year, and thought it would actually make more sense to wait until next year to reset because of the talent still on the team.

 

Fair enough. Once we traded Betts and knew Sale was toast, the cliff arrived early.

[Larry Cook]

I’ve seen a lot of good things in this down season. The big three being:

 

1.) hang’em Chaim seems to have figured out what type of pitcher works well in Fenway,

 

2.) we traded a bunch of spare parts for some minor leaguers that could develop into important pieces for us.

 

3.) our offense suffered a hit with the loss of Betts and company, but have the makings of a solid offense going forward.

[harmony]

Baseball Trade Values provides not only entertainment but an interesting player comp.

 

BTV values four years of Red Sox outfielder Alex Verdugo at $62.3 million and five years of Seattle outfielder Kyle Lewis at $20 million:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/players/9657/

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/players/8698/

 

This season Verdugo and Lewis each posted 1.7 fWAR with a wRC+ of 126:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/alex-verdugo/17027/stats?position=OF

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/kyle-lewis/19508/stats?position=OF

 

Verdugo, who is 10 months younger than Lewis, had a BABIP of .371 with a 7.7 percent walk rate and 20.4 percent strikeout rate. Lewis had a BABIP of .341 with a 14.0 percent walk rate and a 29.3 strikeout rate.

 

Advanced metrics gave Verdugo the edge on defense with a UZR/150 of 13.5 with seven DRS while Lewis had a UZR/150 of a negative 4.1 with a negative three DRS.

 

Verdugo peaked at No. 35 (2019) and Lewis at No. 34 (2017) on Baseball America Top 100 prospect lists. A character issue has followed Verdugo while injuries sidelined Lewis early in his professional career.

 

It will be interesting to follow their careers going forward.

[mvp 78]

@SoxProspects

Old friends on AL Wild Card Rosters:

 

TOR: Travis Shaw, Santiago Espinal

HOU: Ryan Pressly, Josh Reddick

OAK: Frankie Montas, JB Wendelken (Weems on taxi squad)

CWS: Yoan Moncada

TB: Manuel Margot

CLE: Sandy Leon

MIN: Marwin Gonzalez (2011 R5 pick flipped to HOU)

NYY: None

[notin]

@SoxProspects

Old friends on AL Wild Card Rosters:

 

TOR: Travis Shaw, Santiago Espinal

HOU: Ryan Pressly, Josh Reddick

OAK: Frankie Montas, JB Wendelken (Weems on taxi squad)

CWS: Yoan Moncada

TB: Manuel Margot

CLE: Sandy Leon

MIN: Marwin Gonzalez (2011 R5 pick flipped to HOU)

NYY: None

 

Rich Hill isn't on the Twins roster?

[harmony]

Rich Hill isn't on the Twins roster?

"The Twins aren’t carrying lefty Rich Hill due to the fact that he tossed 93 pitches in the regular season finale Sunday."

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/09/twins-set-wild-card-series-roster-buxton-active-donaldson-out.html

[mvp 78]

"The Twins aren’t carrying lefty Rich Hill due to the fact that he tossed 93 pitches in the regular season finale Sunday."

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/09/twins-set-wild-card-series-roster-buxton-active-donaldson-out.html

 

On taxi squad for this series.

[Bellhorn04]

@SoxProspects

Old friends on AL Wild Card Rosters:

OAK: Frankie Montas, JB Wendelken

 

Both from the Peavy trade.

[mvp 78]

Both from the Peavy trade.

 

Think he still uses the duck boat he bought?

[moonslav59]

Both from the Peavy trade.

 

...and many felt Ben would never trade prospects.

[Larry Cook]

...and many felt Ben would never trade prospects.

 

I do not think that is 100 percent accurate.

 

The thinking was more along the lines of Ben “overvaluing prospects”.

[moonslav59]

I do not think that is 100 percent accurate.

 

The thinking was more along the lines of Ben “overvaluing prospects”.

 

That, too.

[illinoisredsox]

Probably time to close this thread

 

Silly Bronx Bomber fan.

 

No Red Sox season is truly over until the Yankees are eliminated and their fans blame the umpires for it, often with conspiracy theories...

 

Now we can close this thread.

[notin]

Now we can close this thread.

 

Shouldn’t we wait for the Blaming of the Umpires? There are traditions we need to respect...

[Larry Cook]

Would hang’em Chaim bring back Lester on the cheap?

[Behindenemylines]

Probably time to close this thread

 

Much like the closing of the Yankee season! So a big shout out to Red Sox Nation who is celebrating YED, DaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaYankees lose!