What should Bloom's plan for 2020 be?

[Slasher9]

If he trades Betts, I am not being harsh at all. No one in the fan base will think that trading Betts is part of a plan to keep him here for the long term no matter how they explain this reset mumbo jumbo. How did that work out with Lester?

 

as you are a season ticket holder your thoughts on this have true meaning. that said, lester was never on record saying he will absolutely be going to FA and looking for Trout money. i dont think we can compare the lester and mookie situations. lester wanted to feel loved by boston FO and sign a fair contract extension prior to becoming a FA. Mookie is adamant to go to FA and sign the biggest contract po$$ible.

[Slasher9]

Those have fallen for years anyway.

 

bring back Orsillo!

[Bellhorn04]

Yeah dude. They didn't really want to pay Lester. It was the org philosophy back then.

 

Well, they did a fine job bumping up the price for Theo.

[mvp 78]

as you are a season ticket holder your thoughts on this have true meaning. that said, lester was never on record saying he will absolutely be going to FA and looking for Trout money. i dont think we can compare the lester and mookie situations. lester wanted to feel loved by boston FO and sign a fair contract extension prior to becoming a FA. Mookie is adamant to go to FA and sign the biggest contract po$$ible.

 

Not any more.

[Elktonnick]

Those have fallen for years anyway.

So let's accelerate the decline. That makes sense.

[mvp 78]

So let's accelerate the decline. That makes sense.

 

The people who still watch will always watch since there is nothing on tv in the summer anyway.

[a700hitter]

The people who still watch will always watch since there is nothing on tv in the summer anyway.

When the weather is nice, people are more likely to go outdoors.

[mvp 78]

When the weather is nice, people are more likely to go outdoors.

 

At 7pm at night? Not likely. That's an issue with weekend games.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

The people who still watch will always watch since there is nothing on tv in the summer anyway.

 

I don't think so this year -- not if they trade Mookie before the season, which basically says we're giving up on the season.

 

Once the s*** hits the fan, the fan will be washing hands seeking a clean break... if/when the new guys get back in contention, viewers will tune back in.

[moonslav59]

I don't think so this year -- not if they trade Mookie before the season, which basically says we're giving up on the season.

 

Once the s*** hits the fan, the fan will be washing hands seeking a clean break... if/when the new guys get back in contention, viewers will tune back in.

 

Even without Mookie, the team is more fun to watch than many other past Sox teams I watched everyday.

[moonslav59]

So let's accelerate the decline. That makes sense.

 

Not trading Betts may accelerate the decline beyond 2020.

[mvp 78]

Even without Mookie, the team is more fun to watch than many other past Sox teams I watched everyday.

 

That remains to be seen. I think one or two young guys coming up and being exciting will make people tune in (like when Chavis was on fire after call up last year).

[mvp 78]

Not trading Betts may accelerate the decline beyond 2020.

 

It's the difference between a 4th round pick and whatever the prospect return is. I'd hope the Sox could get some guys better than a 4th round lottery pick.

[Bellhorn04]

It's the difference between a 4th round pick and whatever the prospect return is. I'd hope the Sox could get some guys better than a 4th round lottery pick.

 

And if the Sox re-sign him they don't even get the stupid 4th round pick.

[Tedballgame]

And if the Sox re-sign him they don't even get the stupid 4th round pick.

He will not re-sign with the Sox because they are not going to pay him the "crazy money" that he wants. The 2013 Sox proved that you can take $30 million and get 3 really good $10M players rather than have one making $30M.

[mvp 78]

And if the Sox re-sign him they don't even get the stupid 4th round pick.

 

I just fainted.

[mvp 78]

He will not re-sign with the Sox because they are not going to pay him the "crazy money" that he wants. The 2013 Sox proved that you can take $30 million and get 3 really good $10M players rather than have one making $30M.

 

I'd rather Mookie than Dempster/Gomes/Napoli.

[moonslav59]

Who IS going to give Betts crazy money?

 

I'm thinking we can outbid anyone not "crazy."

[Tedballgame]

I'd rather Mookie than Dempster/Gomes/Napoli.

Those guys have as many WS titles with the Sox as he does.

[Tedballgame]

Who IS going to give Betts crazy money?

 

I'm thinking we can outbid anyone not "crazy."

 

Dodgers, Padres, Yankees, White Sox, Mets, Rangers to name a few.

[mvp 78]

Those guys have as many WS titles with the Sox as he does.

 

Ok?

[mvp 78]

Dodgers, Padres, Yankees, White Sox, Mets, Rangers to name a few.

 

Padres can't afford it. The other teams probably could, but I think Mookie is worth more to the Sox than to other teams just from a marketing perspective.

[Bellhorn04]

He will not re-sign with the Sox because they are not going to pay him the "crazy money" that he wants. The 2013 Sox proved that you can take $30 million and get 3 really good $10M players rather than have one making $30M.

 

And they got one year out of Victorino for 39 million. And all those guys were useless in 2014. So those 2013 signings aren't really a great example.

[Bellhorn04]

Who IS going to give Betts crazy money?

 

I'm thinking we can outbid anyone not "crazy."

 

If Philly and the Padres can pay $300 million or more for Harper and Machado, someone can definitely pay crazy money for Mookie.

[Tedballgame]

And they got one year out of Victorino for 39 million. And all those guys were useless in 2014. So those 2013 signings aren't really a great example.

 

Those signings won the Sox a World Series. I know Victorino didn't pan out after 2013 but no one can deny that he played a HUGE role in the title. Remember his homer against the Tigers? One World Series title is worth it. The point is, championship teams can be built without paying one guy 40 million a year. How many WS titles do the Angels have with Trout? ZERO!!!!

[Tedballgame]

I want Mookie to stay but if he wants 35-40 million a year for 10 years, forget it. Trade him and get as much as possible for him.

[Tedballgame]

My son is a Cardinals fan. He was sad when Albert Pujols signed that 10 year deal with the Angels. He isn't now and hasn't been for a few years. The Angels are the ones who are sad about it. They have won nothing with him and they are still paying him big bucks when he is way past his prime.

[Bellhorn04]

Those signings won the Sox a World Series. I know Victorino didn't pan out after 2013 but no one can deny that he played a HUGE role in the title. Remember his homer against the Tigers? One World Series title is worth it. The point is, championship teams can be built without paying one guy 40 million a year. How many WS titles do the Angels have with Trout? ZERO!!!!

 

We were very fortunate in 2013. A lot of things had to go right and they did. Like Lackey, for example.

 

But that team isn't really a blueprint for success. Especially when you look at what happened the next year.

[Elktonnick]

The people who still watch will always watch since there is nothing on tv in the summer anyway.

You just contradicted your previous post which said ratings have fallen for years. Which is it; ratings have fallen for years or, the people who still watch will always watch?

[mvp 78]

If Philly and the Padres can pay $300 million or more for Harper and Machado, someone can definitely pay crazy money for Mookie.

 

I think they got their one big contract and aren't going to add another.