Price is the Huckleberry bank on it .

[Swiharts Ghost]

Thank you for 18 Dave and the room to make one last offer to Betts .Dodgers can swing it .

[moonslav59]

Am I missing something? I'm not sure what this means. Trade Price to LAD?

 

Sure.

 

How much $$$ do we include?

[illinoisredsox]

Am I missing something? I'm not sure what this means. Trade Price to LAD?

 

Sure.

 

How much $$$ do we include?

 

Consider the source. Given this and his 9:50 am post in the Bloom Move Your Assss thread, I think the Ghost would be wise not to drink and post.

[notin]

If I was a GM for another team, making me take on Price to get Betts would be an absolute deal breaker.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Does anyone here not think Price is one of the first guys the Sox will try to jettison? We can bemoan the Sale and Eovaldi contracts in hindsight, but still hope Chris' offyear was an anomaly, and that he heals and evolves into a productive -- if not spectacular -- starter once again. As for Nate, he's still under 30 and throwing 100 mph with upside that new coaches will seek to hone. Plus, his AAV is a little more than half of Price's pay.

 

David Price is the high maintenance man we no longer want to maintain: can't pitch in the cold, can't pitch at night, can't pitch in Yankee Stadium, can't handle announcers hating his hatred... can't handle holding all the cards. For an organization intent on making changes (especially one looking at bottom line dollars) one of the first changes should be making Price change the name on the front of his jersey.

[Elktonnick]

Does anyone here not think Price is one of the first guys the Sox will try to jettison? We can bemoan the Sale and Eovaldi contracts in hindsight, but still hope Chris' offyear was an anomaly, and that he heals and evolves into a productive -- if not spectacular -- starter once again. As for Nate, he's still under 30 and throwing 100 mph with upside that new coaches will seek to hone. Plus, his AAV is a little more than half of Price's pay.

 

David Price is the high maintenance man we no longer want to maintain: can't pitch in the cold, can't pitch at night, can't pitch in Yankee Stadium, can't handle announcers hating his hatred... can't handle holding all the cards. For an organization intent on making changes (especially one looking at bottom line dollars) one of the first changes should be making Price change the name on the front of his jersey.

 

Depending on what they can get for him, I certainly wouldn't miss him. He is right up there on my least favorite Red Sox players list of the Henry era.

[notin]

Does anyone here not think Price is one of the first guys the Sox will try to jettison? We can bemoan the Sale and Eovaldi contracts in hindsight, but still hope Chris' offyear was an anomaly, and that he heals and evolves into a productive -- if not spectacular -- starter once again. As for Nate, he's still under 30 and throwing 100 mph with upside that new coaches will seek to hone. Plus, his AAV is a little more than half of Price's pay.

 

David Price is the high maintenance man we no longer want to maintain: can't pitch in the cold, can't pitch at night, can't pitch in Yankee Stadium, can't handle announcers hating his hatred... can't handle holding all the cards. For an organization intent on making changes (especially one looking at bottom line dollars) one of the first changes should be making Price change the name on the front of his jersey.

 

Oh no doubt the Sox want to move Price. But Chaim Bloom will have an easier time learning to speak the language of the humpback whales than he will trying to move Price and his contract...

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I think we all know what (and who) Sam Kennedy was referring to when he said, "There is a way to keep both Mookie and JD -- but it won't be easy."

 

One of the reasons Bloom may have been hired is because he was the best man to achieve that difficult task...

[harmony]

Does anyone here not think Price is one of the first guys the Sox will try to jettison? We can bemoan the Sale and Eovaldi contracts in hindsight, but still hope Chris' offyear was an anomaly, and that he heals and evolves into a productive -- if not spectacular -- starter once again. As for Nate, he's still under 30 and throwing 100 mph with upside that new coaches will seek to hone. Plus, his AAV is a little more than half of Price's pay.

 

David Price is the high maintenance man we no longer want to maintain: can't pitch in the cold, can't pitch at night, can't pitch in Yankee Stadium, can't handle announcers hating his hatred... can't handle holding all the cards. For an organization intent on making changes (especially one looking at bottom line dollars) one of the first changes should be making Price change the name on the front of his jersey.

Those are reasons why other teams would not want David Price and his contract.

 

Would you package Price, Mookie Betts and $10 million in a trade to another club for a player with no surplus value?

 

That's what one website suggests it would take:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

[harmony]

Would anyone trade Chris Sale for one-time Gold Glove second baseman Dee Gordon, saving the Red Sox $19 million for luxury tax purposes next year and nearly $30 million annually thereafter?

 

One website lists Sale with a negative net value of $11 million and Gordon with a negative net value of $11.4 million:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

Sale and his injury concerns might be too risky for the Mariners despite their reported payroll flexibility.

[notin]

Would anyone trade Chris Sale for one-time Gold Glove second baseman Dee Gordon, saving the Red Sox $19 million for luxury tax purposes next year and nearly $30 million annually thereafter?

 

One website lists Sale with a negative net value of $11 million and Gordon with a negative net value of $11.4 million:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

Sale and his injury concerns might be too risky for the Mariners despite their reported payroll flexibility.

 

I like the idea of trading Price for Wil Myers, which immediately knocks $18mill in AAV of the Sox payroll...

[moonslav59]

I like the idea of trading Price for Wil Myers, which immediately knocks $18mill in AAV of the Sox payroll...

 

I'd do that deal in a heartbeat and throw in Brian Johnson, too. If they want Hembree, him too.

[moonslav59]

Price for Myers

-save $18M on AVV

JBJ (~$11.5M/1) & Eovaldi ($51M/3) and $7M a year x 3 yrs for Marisnik (~$3.2M/1) & Pressley ($24.5M/3 but just $6.8M lux tax)

-save $11.5M on AVV (or $0M had we just non tendered JBJ)

[Larry Cook]

We call Texas and tell them that we have heard the rumors of them wanting price. We agree to trade them price for an average rookie league prospect, but they got to take Martinez and choke on all the salaries!

[Bellhorn04]

I'd do that deal in a heartbeat and throw in Brian Johnson, too. If they want Hembree, him too.

 

moon, you always want to throw in those scraps. I'm surprised you didn't add Travis LOL

[Bellhorn04]

We call Texas and tell them that we have heard the rumors of them wanting price. We agree to trade them price for an average rookie league prospect, but they got to take Martinez and choke on all the salaries!

 

If Texas would take Price and his salary for a prospect you just do it. The part about taking Martinez is dumb, which is not a big surprise.

[Kimmi]

It's ironic, IMO, that I seem to be one of the few that are not so eager to trade Price. I get that his contract is huge, and trading his contract would help the team a great deal. But, we also need good starting pitching. If healthy, Price is a very good pitcher.

 

From what I recall, nearly everyone was excited when Price was signed, despite the huge contract. How quickly the mighty will fall. This is the exact same type of thing that will likely happen if we sign Mookie to a mega deal.

[notin]

It's ironic, IMO, that I seem to be one of the few that are not so eager to trade Price. I get that his contract is huge, and trading his contract would help the team a great deal. But, we also need good starting pitching. If healthy, Price is a very good pitcher.

 

From what I recall, nearly everyone was excited when Price was signed, despite the huge contract. How quickly the mighty will fall. This is the exact same type of thing that will likely happen if we sign Mookie to a mega deal.

 

Yes, nearly.

 

Although my dissent was not so much prophetic as it was my normal disdain for long contracts. Still, Price went sour too quickly, and replacing him with a pitcher who shows up for more than one season in a 3 year stretch might not be so hard.

 

I wouldn’t trade him for Robinson Cano (also owed $96mill, but with a $24mill AAV). But if the Sox can pawn him off for a far, far lesser bad contract like Wil Myers or Rougned Odor, I think it’s a good idea. And it might allow the Sox to hold on to Betts...

[moonslav59]

moon, you always want to throw in those scraps. I'm surprised you didn't add Travis LOL

 

I'm saving him as the throw-in for my next trade suggestion.

[Bellhorn04]

I'm saving him as the throw-in for my next trade suggestion.

 

Johnson and Travis will make any opposing GM's eyes light up with excitement.

[Kimmi]

Yes, nearly.

 

Although my dissent was not so much prophetic as it was my normal disdain for long contracts. Still, Price went sour too quickly, and replacing him with a pitcher who shows up for more than one season in a 3 year stretch might not be so hard.

 

I wouldn’t trade him for Robinson Cano (also owed $96mill, but with a $24mill AAV). But if the Sox can pawn him off for a far, far lesser bad contract like Wil Myers or Rougned Odor, I think it’s a good idea. And it might allow the Sox to hold on to Betts...

 

If trading Price means keeping Mookie, then you almost have to do it.

 

However, it was the starting pitching that was our downfall last year, not our offense. Do we need a solid starting pitcher more or do we need the position player more? Betts is obviously the better player, but if you asked me who the team would survive better without, I'm not so sure my answer would be Price. Of course, the answer to that question hinges on Price's health, which we don't really know anything about.

 

That said, Price has 3 more years left on his contract, so the decision would be about more than just next year.

[notin]

If trading Price means keeping Mookie, then you almost have to do it.

 

However, it was the starting pitching that was our downfall last year, not our offense. Do we need a solid starting pitcher more or do we need the position player more? Betts is obviously the better player, but if you asked me who the team would survive better without, I'm not so sure my answer would be Price. Of course, the answer to that question hinges on Price's health, which we don't really know anything about.

 

That said, Price has 3 more years left on his contract, so the decision would be about more than just next year.

 

 

Starting pitching was the problem last year. But would you consider Price to be part of the problem or part of the solution?

[harmony]

Price for Myers

-save $18M on AVV

JBJ (~$11.5M/1) & Eovaldi ($51M/3) and $7M a year x 3 yrs for Marisnik (~$3.2M/1) & Pressley ($24.5M/3 but just $6.8M lux tax)

-save $11.5M on AVV (or $0M had we just non tendered JBJ)

According to one website, that trade gives the Red Sox a surplus value of $16.2 million and the Astros a net negative value of $6.5 million:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

As the simulator reads: Not accepted.

[moonslav59]

According to one website, that trade gives the Red Sox a surplus value of $16.2 million and the Astros a net negative value of $6.5 million:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

As the simulator reads: Not accepted.

 

Sounds like a great deal for us! (OK, throw in Sam Travis! LOL)

[moonslav59]

According to one website, that trade gives the Red Sox a surplus value of $16.2 million and the Astros a net negative value of $6.5 million:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

As the simulator reads: Not accepted.

 

The Astros wanted Eovaldi last winter. He was injury prone then, too.

[harmony]

I like the idea of trading Price for Wil Myers, which immediately knocks $18mill in AAV of the Sox payroll...

The trade simulator suggests that is a slight overpay for the Red Sox:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

... although the website may not take into consideration the luxury tax benefits for the Red Sox.

[harmony]

Sounds like a great deal for us! (OK, throw in Sam Travis! LOL)

Christian Vazquez would even it out.

[moonslav59]

Christian Vazquez would even it out.

 

Lets just throw in Betts.

[notin]

The trade simulator suggests that is a slight overpay for the Red Sox:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/

 

... although the website may not take into consideration the luxury tax benefits for the Red Sox.

 

 

I see they updated Myers’ value.

 

Hey if the Padres have to include a few of their prospects to help with their 40 man roster crunch, all the better. David Price for Myers, Trey Wingenter and Jorge Ona...

[harmony]

I see they updated Myers’ value.

 

Hey if the Padres have to include a few of their prospects to help with their 40 man roster crunch, all the better. David Price for Myers, Trey Wingenter and Jorge Ona...

The website should explain its updates since the end of the season.