Erod would restock the farm Cash out while his Value is at its Peak

[Swiharts Ghost]

Don't wait cash out and restock .Erod has the most Value on this team besides Mookie make the Trade

[harmony]

Don't wait cash out and restock .Erod has the most Value on this team besides Mookie make the Trade

If Eduardo Rodriguez were traded, what would the Red Sox starting rotation look like in 2020?

[moonslav59]

If Eduardo Rodriguez were traded, what would the Red Sox starting rotation look like in 2020?

 

I think this idea would be to pack it in for 2020.

[Bellhorn04]

If Eduardo Rodriguez were traded, what would the Red Sox starting rotation look like in 2020?

 

Sale, Price, Eovaldi, and Johnson/Lakins/Weber/whoever. I see nothing that could go wrong. Do you?

[Elktonnick]

Don't wait cash out and restock .Erod has the most Value on this team besides Mookie make the Trade

 

The object of a major league baseball team is 1. Put fannies in your seats. 2 You do that by putting a competitive baseball team on the field. The object is not to have the best farm team and put fannies in seats in Pawtucket (Worcester) and a host of other minor league towns.

[Slasher9]

Don't wait cash out and restock .Erod has the most Value on this team besides Mookie make the Trade

 

i would have to see what the return would be before signing off on this but i am definitely sitting at this table listening to offers and not opposed to dealing him (or anyone on the club for that matter). we need to restock & reset ASAP.

[moonslav59]

i would have to see what the return would be before signing off on this but i am definitely sitting at this table listening to offers and not opposed to dealing him (or anyone on the club for that matter). we need to restock & reset ASAP.

 

I'd hate to trade ERod. We have won almost 80% of his starts over the last 2 years, but I'll listen to any trade offer for anyone.

[Elktonnick]

Check out E-R0D's salary at 2million plus he is a huge bargain. He isn't arbitration until 2020. No way should the Sox consider moving him.

[harmony]

Check out E-R0D's salary at 2million plus he is a huge bargain. He isn't arbitration until 2020. No way should the Sox consider moving him.

Boston lefthander Eduardo Rodriguez earned $4.3 million this season in his second year of arbitration and remains under team control for two more arbitration seasons:

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rodried05.shtml

Edited September 30, 2019 by harmony

[notin]

Don't wait cash out and restock .Erod has the most Value on this team besides Mookie make the Trade

 

No. Rafael Devers has the most value in a trade.

 

Baseballtradevalues ranks Rodriguez fifth in trade value among Sox players, behind Devers, Bogaerts, Betts and Benintendi and just ahead of Barnes and JD Martinez. It is worth pointing out that the value for ERod is a mid-season value they have not yet updated. The values for Martinez and Devers also need updating.

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/teams/604/

[notin]

I'd hate to trade ERod. We have won almost 80% of his starts over the last 2 years, but I'll listen to any trade offer for anyone.

 

IMO the Sox should trade JD (if he stays), Barnes and Dalbec.

 

Trading ERod just creates another void in the rotation...

[notin]

I'd hate to trade ERod. We have won almost 80% of his starts over the last 2 years, but I'll listen to any trade offer for anyone.

 

If the Sox want to make a huge splash in the trade market, they could trade Devers (which they won't).

 

If the Sox traded Devers to the Braves, he would be worth a package of Christian Pache, Ian Anderson and Bryse Wilson or a package of Drew Waters, Austin Riley and Kyle Wright. That is some serious value...

[vegasbob]

No. Rafael Devers has the most value in a trade.

 

Baseballtradevalues ranks Rodriguez fifth in trade value among Sox players, behind Devers, Bogaerts, Betts and Benintendi and just ahead of Barnes and JD Martinez. It is worth pointing out that the value for ERod is a mid-season value they have not yet updated. The values for Martinez and Devers also need updating.

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/teams/604/

 

OK, using the midseason numbers makes me want to package Barnes and Benintendi. On a serious note, does anyone see notable upside in Beni, despite youth and cost control factors, is it easy to picture him at 20 HR's 85 rbi's and .850 OPS ?

[moonslav59]

IMO the Sox should trade JD (if he stays), Barnes and Dalbec.

 

Trading ERod just creates another void in the rotation...

 

I agree, but with just 2 years of team control, I'd listen to offers.

[moonslav59]

IMO the Sox should trade JD (if he stays), Barnes and Dalbec.

 

Trading ERod just creates another void in the rotation...

 

I think Barnes will bounce back next year and increase his value. I'd wait on dealing him until July 2020.

[notin]

OK, using the midseason numbers makes me want to package Barnes and Benintendi. On a serious note, does anyone see notable upside in Beni, despite youth and cost control factors, is it easy to picture him at 20 HR's 85 rbi's and .850 OPS ?

 

The values they have for Barnes and Benintendi are updated, based on the number of years remaining on the table. Of course, both could change depending on what the players actually receive in arbitration.

 

 

As for me, Barnes is the clear outlier. He is a good pitcher, but his true value is diminished by the fact that he can't seem to pitch effectively on back-to-back days. That's a big deal for a high leverage reliever. If the Sox can find a team willing to take him on at anything close to that calculated value, they should do it and move on.

 

Using the values on that sight (which cannot take certain factors into account, like whether or not the other GM actually wants a player), the Sox should be able to trade Barnes straight up to the Dodgers for rookie RHSP Tony Gonsolin. If the Dodgers, who are annually looking for a reliever to help Jansen, would make this trade, the Sox should do it and not look back...

[notin]

I think Barnes will bounce back next year and increase his value. I'd wait on dealing him until July 2020.

 

He might bounce back, but years of control is a strong influence in trade value as well. He may or may not get better. But his years of control is only going to go in one direction and one direction only...

[moonslav59]

He might bounce back, but years of control is a strong influence in trade value as well. He may or may not get better. But his years of control is only going to go in one direction and one direction only...

 

Yes, but his numbers slipped (except k/9 & ERA+) for the first time in 4 years.

[notin]

Yes, but his numbers slipped (except k/9 & ERA+) for the first time in 4 years.

 

Even if he maintains, two years of Barnes is worth more than 1.5 years of Barnes or 1 year of Barnes.

 

The Sox do need bullpen help, but this might be a time to sell high...

[jacksonianmarch]

I absolutely do not deal Barnes this offseason. The most overpaid for commodity at the deadline is bullpen. If I were the new GM, I would put the following limits on Barnes for 2020.

 

He doesn't close games

He doesn't pitch back to back games

 

That is it. His numbers should improve and some sucker will go out and give the sox something useful for him.

[notin]

I absolutely do not deal Barnes this offseason. The most overpaid for commodity at the deadline is bullpen. If I were the new GM, I would put the following limits on Barnes for 2020.

 

He doesn't close games

He doesn't pitch back to back games

 

That is it. His numbers should improve and some sucker will go out and give the sox something useful for him.

 

Actually given the potential free agent relievers, this off-season might be the optimal time to move Barnes. The headliner this off-season if Chapman doesn't opt out is Hector Rondon...

[Donnie Sadler was short]

OK, using the midseason numbers makes me want to package Barnes and Benintendi. On a serious note, does anyone see notable upside in Beni, despite youth and cost control factors, is it easy to picture him at 20 HR's 85 rbi's and .850 OPS ?

 

I dont see it in 10-D. I didnt watch many games at all this year, but sometimes he seems distracted or just doesnt really give a rats a$$. He may blossom when he's 30, but I would trade him if we can keep Mookie.

[jad]

Perhaps it's worth considering not 'who has the most trade value,' but rather 'who has the most value for the team.' As pointed out above, no one is going to Fenway park all fired up because the RS have great players in Portland, where I can see them just fine in my $10 front row seat.

[moonslav59]

Perhaps it's worth considering not 'who has the most trade value,' but rather 'who has the most value for the team.' As pointed out above, no one is going to Fenway park all fired up because the RS have great players in Portland, where I can see them just fine in my $10 front row seat.

 

Too bad we didn't trade Betts, Bogey and Devers while they were at Portland.

[S5Dewey]

Just a few days ago we had a short discussion here about Tampa Bay and how they manage to sell high on most of their players. Maybe the most important question now is WWTBD?

[Bellhorn04]

Just a few days ago we had a short discussion here about Tampa Bay and how they manage to sell high on most of their players. Maybe the most important question now is WWTBD?

 

Tampa Bay makes small-market moves and they do it brilliantly. But we can't really follow their model.

 

However, snagging their former mastermind Friedman would be nice.

[moonslav59]

Tampa Bay makes small-market moves and they do it brilliantly. But we can't really follow their model.

 

However, snagging their former mastermind Friedman would be nice.

 

I actually think acquiring under the radar, low cost players is a great strategy for any team. That's not to say we can't also snag some higher priced players when needed, but we need a guy that fill a whole roster.

 

That is one thing DD did pretty well until 2019. The Nunez, Reed, Pearce and Eovaldi trades worked wonders. They weren't really "big market" moves, in fact we eevn got some of those teams to pay part of their contracts.

[Bellhorn04]

I actually think acquiring under the radar, low cost players is a great strategy for any team. That's not to say we can't also snag some higher priced players when needed, but we need a guy that fill a whole roster.

 

That is one thing DD did pretty well until 2019. The Nunez, Reed, Pearce and Eovaldi trades worked wonders. They weren't really "big market" moves, in fact we eevn got some of those teams to pay part of their contracts.

 

Those were all deadline trades, so they sort of fit in a separate category.

 

The classic small-market move is 'selling high' like the Rays did with Archer and others.

[S5Dewey]

Those were all deadline trades, so they sort of fit in a separate category.

 

The classic small-market move is 'selling high' like the Rays did with Archer and others.

 

Exactly. Which brings us back to the title of this thread and WWTBD.

 

I wouldn't have the kahunas to trade ERod right now even though we might get a good return for him and he might implode next year. If the Rays had ERod they just might move him and given their track record that might not be a bad thing to do.

[notin]

Exactly. Which brings us back to the title of this thread and WWTBD.

 

I wouldn't have the kahunas to trade ERod right now even though we might get a good return for him and he might implode next year. If the Rays had ERod they just might move him and given their track record that might not be a bad thing to do.

 

The Rays track record does include finishing 3rd, 4th, or 5th five times in the 5 seasons prior to this year, and never finishing closer than 13 games of first place.

 

It's easy to call them the model to imitate when they are winning. But they have a lot of periods when they are losing that Sox fans could not handle. Heck, we have one 3rd place finish and people want to blow the whole thing up and rebuild...