9-5 Twins vs. World Champions Red Sox

[TylerD]

Offense blew it

[illinoisredsox]

We are a terrible team horribly coached at every level that's the year folks 6.5 it's over and we'll deserved by a gutless team and GM

 

Nothing wrong with trying to score the run there. The LF has to field it cleanly and make a good throw to home where the catcher has to field it and make the tag. The Twins did all three and made the play. Sometimes that happens.

Edited September 6, 2019 by illinoisredsox

[Swiharts Ghost]

I take no pride in giving up hope long ago.

 

This season sucked- big time.

 

Let's see the kids play.

 

Every choice, now, should be about setting ourselves up for the future and gaining information about marginal players.

.... Dude you don't fool me you held hope but yes we no longer need to see Brock Holt ,Mitch ,JDM play we need to see young starters and position players go now .I would seriously consider shutting down Benny because I'm trading the guy in a few weeks same similar JDM what ever we can do to piss him and Price off enough to walk I'm doing .

[moonslav59]

Nothing wrong with trying to score the run there. The LF has to field it cleanly, make a good relay throw to the SS who has to make a good throw to home. The Twins did all three and made the play. Sometimes that happens.

 

Not for us, though.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Nothing wrong with trying to score the run there. The LF has to field it cleanly, make a good relay throw to the SS who has to make a good throw to home. The Twins did all three and made the play. Sometimes that happens.

 

Nooo that's not my point the 4 hits are a microcosm the 9 walks also ...Devers is fine to go there .

[moonslav59]

Good to see Eovaldi look sharp.

 

A couple more good starts by him and maybe we'll have a better feeling about 2020.

[illinoisredsox]

Offense blew it

 

More to the point the Twins pitching was really good tonight. What blew it was 9 walks by Red Sox pitching.

[illinoisredsox]

I think Raffi is scary as F yes I would walk Raffi Devers a lot

 

That would explain why you’re here and 30 other people are managing major league teams.

[illinoisredsox]

Not for us, though.

 

This year. Last year the throw would have hit a pebble and deflected far enough away to allow the run to score.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Guys 9 walks ? Only two runs and we lose at home lol come on it's time to smile and call 2018 a train wreck .

[Swiharts Ghost]

That would explain why you’re here and 30 other people are managing major league teams.

 

Yes it would .Point is I'm stupid right? Orrrr maybe they dodged a bullett ?

Edited September 6, 2019 by Swiharts Ghost

[moonslav59]

This year. Last year the throw would have hit a pebble and deflected far enough away to allow the run to score.

 

Exactly. Or one guy is just a little off with their throw.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

I predicted it was a bad idea for the SOX to return to Fenway.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Btw, it's against the law to draw boobs on a national hurricane map. Edited September 6, 2019 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[illinoisredsox]

Guys 9 walks ? Only two runs and we lose at home lol come on it's time to smile and call 2018 a train wreck .

 

If winning the World Series was a train wreck, what do you call this year?

[jung]

More to the point the Twins pitching was really good tonight. What blew it was 9 walks by Red Sox pitching.

 

For all those 9 walks the twins only generated two runs. Tonight's game was a prime example of one of the big holes in the current MLB game. All you really need to shut down these so-call "best hitters ever" is find guys that can throw a 2 strike breaking pitch, ANY 2 strike breaking pitch and these hitters are all done because as often pointed out, most of them do nothing different from one pitch to the next, one count to the next, one in-game situation to the next. For them, the count is always 2-1 and they are always swinging out of their shoelaces. That was as much futility as I have seen exhibited by two teams, not one but two teams of supposed "good hitters" in a long time. Minny Mouse finally beat Goofy by a nose.

 

There must have been 100 Bugs Bunny swings tonight....at least.

 

Whoopie!!! Pitchers that actually successfully throw breaking pitches at two strikes. My oh my, they must all be Cy candidates.

 

I rarely agree with Oh Danny Boy Shaughnessy. But this time he has it right. The Spread Sheet boys backed by Manfred the Magnificent are creating a game that will ultimately bore everybody to tears, HR's and all. They are driving this game down a rat hole and have been doing a particularly good job of it for 10 years now.

 

Funny how a single game that can best be defined by abject futility at the plate was actually one of the better games of the year as fielders made plays and pitchers made pitches. Sad to think how few games there are that we can say that about.

Edited September 6, 2019 by jung

[jad]

Gosh. Every game thread adds another to my 'block' list. (I concede, losing brings out the worst in some posters and there are doubtless 'good people on both sides'.)

[moonslav59]

For all those 9 walks the twins only generated two runs. Tonight's game was a prime example of one of the big holes in the current MLB game. All you really need to shut down these so-call "best hitters ever" is find guys that can throw a 2 strike breaking pitch, ANY 2 strike breaking pitch and these hitters are all done because as often pointed out, most of them do nothing different from one pitch to the next, one count to the next, one in-game situation to the next. For them, the count is always 2-1 and they are always swinging out of their shoelaces. That was as much futility as I have seen exhibited by two teams, not one but two teams of supposed "good hitters" in a long time. Minny Mouse finally beat Goofy by a nose.

 

There must have been 100 Bugs Bunny swings tonight....at least.

 

Whoopie!!! Pitchers that actually successfully throw breaking pitches at two strikes. My oh my, they must all be Cy candidates.

 

I rarely agree with Oh Danny Boy Shaughnessy. But this time he has it right. The Spread Sheet boys backed by Manfred the Magnificent are creating a game that will ultimately bore everybody to tears, HR's and all. They are driving this game down a rat hole and have been doing a particularly good job of it for 10 years now.

 

Funny how a single game that can best be defined by abject futility at the plate was actually one of the better games of the year as fielders made plays and pitchers made pitches. Sad to think how few games there are that we can say that about.

 

Yes. It's those damn spread sheets that are killing the game.

 

Do you even listen to yourself?

 

There's an old wive's tale. If you find yourself agreeing with Dan, it's time to re-examine your whole foundation of thinking.

[Bellhorn04]

Eovaldi pitched well, so that's one positive thing (from another bone-crushing loss).

[vegasbob]

Maybe.

 

They've had guys out all year and still have won more than us.

 

The A's just scored 7 in the 7th inning to go up 8-6!

 

As tough as this season has been on Sox fans, you could always have had the bad luck to be an Angels fan. You might get to watch Mike Trout nightly, though even he is slumping now, but you will not likely see them in any playoff contention as long as the Astros and A's exist.

[moonslav59]

I'm still proud to be a Sox fan.

 

I like the idea of winning a ring every 3-5 years.

[Bellhorn04]

I'm still proud to be a Sox fan.

 

I like the idea of winning a ring every 3-5 years.

 

Same here.

[jung]

Yes. It's those damn spread sheets that are killing the game.

 

Do you even listen to yourself?

 

There's an old wive's tale. If you find yourself agreeing with Dan, it's time to re-examine your whole foundation of thinking.

 

Nope....I don't listen to myself. I watch the players, watch the games, form a logical thought pattern on the topic based on large part on experience and express the result in the form of an opinion.

 

You are living in denial if you don'r recognize how much the spreadsheet managers AND Manfred are manipulating this game. If you don't want to look at your own team, look at Cash and the Rays and the laughably nonsensical spreadsheet motivated decisions they force themselves into.

 

Sure the Rays are having "some success". But are they really. They still don't draw. In fact both ratings and attendance around MLB is suffering now. Fenway Group has Fenway Park and that carnival they run to draw attendance. The Cubs have Wrigley and that is that!

 

Dan is for one time correct. The powers that be are creating a game that ultimately nobody will care about and nobody will watch because is boring and I don't even know if the actually attendance and ratings number will change it.

 

What did Drew Pomeranz say when asked about pace of play. "If you don't like it, don't watch." Most of the country is way ahead of you Drew.....way ahead of you and if that is how the players are going to respond (and I believe the bulk of them will respond pretty close to where Drew is) then there are simply no constituents within the game itself prepared to defend it or rescue it. They are just going to ride this train right into the ditch and shrug their shoulders when its done. Isn't that the good ole American Capitalistic way? So why would be surprised? They already got their front wheels into the ditch in the mid-90's and were rescued not on purpose but by sheer accident. Put the front wheels in the ditch in the mid-50's to mid-60s too and just barely rescued it then as well. At least I can say that rescue was not by accident though most of the owners and players for that matter had to be dragged to it kicking and screaming all the way.

Edited September 6, 2019 by jung

[Kimmi]

I'm still proud to be a Sox fan.

 

I like the idea of winning a ring every 3-5 years.

 

Pretty much every other fan base would kill to be in our shoes. One of the opposing team's broadcasting crew, I can't remember who now, made a point about this a few weeks ago during a telecast. They talked about how frustrated we must be this season, but what other team's fans wouldn't give to have the success that we've had.

 

Remember the days of "Just one championship before I die?" These are great times to be a Red Sox fan.

[Kimmi]

Nope....I don't listen to myself. I watch the players, watch the games, form a logical thought pattern on the topic based on large part on experience and express the result in the form of an opinion.

 

You are living in denial if you don'r recognize how much the spreadsheet managers AND Manfred are manipulating this game. If you don't want to look at your own team, look at Cash and the Rays and the laughably nonsensical spreadsheet motivated decisions they force themselves into.

 

Sure the Rays are having "some success". But are they really. They still don't draw. In fact both ratings and attendance around MLB is suffering now. Fenway Group has Fenway Park and that carnival they run to draw attendance. The Cubs have Wrigley and that is that!

 

Dan is for one time correct. The powers that be are creating a game that ultimately nobody will care about and nobody will watch because is boring and I don't even know if the actually attendance and ratings number will change it.

 

What did Drew Pomeranz say when asked about pace of play. "If you don't like it, don't watch." Most of the country is way ahead of you Drew.....way ahead of you and if that is how the players are going to respond (and I believe the bulk of them will respond pretty close to where Drew is) then there are simply no constituents within the game itself prepared to defend it or rescue it. They are just going to ride this train right into the ditch and shrug their shoulders when its done. Isn't that the good ole American Capitalistic way? So why would be surprised? They already got their front wheels into the ditch in the mid-90's and were rescued not on purpose but by sheer accident. Put the front wheels in the ditch in the mid-50's to mid-60s too and just barely rescued it then as well. At least I can say that rescue was not by accident though most of the owners and players for that matter had to be dragged to it kicking and screaming all the way.

 

I am not a fan of most of Manfred's gimmicks. I agree that the length of today's games have become too long for the casual fan. I blame the commercial breaks, but I know that's not going away.

 

Personally, I think the decrease in the interest in the game have as much to do with economics and society's reliance on electronic devices and instant gratification than anything else. The game of baseball remains a beautiful thing.

[TylerD]

Eovaldi pitched well, so that's one positive thing (from another bone-crushing loss).

 

Seems to finally be shaking off the rust.

[Maxbialystock]

I hate to say it, but, despite all those walks, this was a pretty good game. Also interesting that the Sox outscored the Twins in the series overall, 13-10, but of course lost in games, 2-1. The Sox now have a losing record at Fenway this year.

 

About those 9 walks by the Sox staff, I think part of that was dinger-avoidance.