When does DD push the panic button..??

[devildavid]

JD has been having back problems. When he isn't doing well I'm guessing his back is not 100% or some other physical issue maybe related to it. Just because he is out there playing doesn't mean he isn't bothered by some physical issue. Sale had physical issues early in the season. There isn't a binary choice between injured/heathy, but a lot of gradations in between.

[moonslav59]

JD has been having back problems. When he isn't doing well I'm guessing his back is not 100% or some other physical issue maybe related to it. Just because he is out there playing doesn't mean he isn't bothered by some physical issue. Sale had physical issues early in the season. There isn't a binary choice between injured/heathy, but a lot of gradations in between.

 

Yes, exactly!

[vegasbob]

JD has been having back problems. When he isn't doing well I'm guessing his back is not 100% or some other physical issue maybe related to it. Just because he is out there playing doesn't mean he isn't bothered by some physical issue. Sale had physical issues early in the season. There isn't a binary choice between injured/heathy, but a lot of gradations in between.

 

I think the thing bothering some observers are the pitches that JDM chases recently. He used to be very disciplined. If anything back pain or limitations would tend to discourage swinging the bat in favor of letting more pitches go by. The other mystery is that you can clearly see the "book" of a low away slider/curve is out on the street with respect to getting JD out, chasing. He should know that coming up and recognize the pitch a bit earlier . He needs to force the pitcher to go to his FB with a 2-0 or 3-1 count. He may have physical issues, but he is also having some mental lapses as well.

[devildavid]

I think the thing bothering some observers are the pitches that JDM chases recently. He used to be very disciplined. If anything back pain or limitations would tend to discourage swinging the bat in favor of letting more pitches go by. The other mystery is that you can clearly see the "book" of a low away slider/curve is out on the street with respect to getting JD out, chasing. He should know that coming up and recognize the pitch a bit earlier . He needs to force the pitcher to go to his FB with a 2-0 or 3-1 count. He may have physical issues, but he is also having some mental lapses as well.

 

Mental and physical go hand in hand.

[TylerD]

Teams rolling. Shut this silly thread down.

[oldmaninthevegasdesert]

this thread reminds me of any year from 1968 to 2003, some of you would have quit being fans,if you had to watch the team from from 1962 to 1966, talk about ugly, the ONLY bright spot on those teams was the best hitting pitcher ever,this side of the Babe...Earl Wilson

[TylerD]

this thread reminds me of any year from 1968 to 2003, some of you would have quit being fans,if you had to watch the team from from 1962 to 1966, talk about ugly, the ONLY bright spot on those teams was the best hitting pitcher ever,this side of the Babe...Earl Wilson

 

Well said.

 

I’m 31. Started cheering for the team in 02. Literally right before they won a World Series pretty much. I am thankful I have not gone through what my grandpa did with the Sox. I always joke and say the 86 World Series killed him lol. He actually pass 10 years after that. But yes I am forever grateful I have witnessed them win 4 World Series in my life. More than enough to keep me happy till I die.

[Noles_1335]

This season is over with the product we continue to put out there every game. We can’t compete with the clubs we have made the correct moves to improve! Douchebag Dave might just be the one we need to let go of.... this team has become the Tigers when he was there! It’s time to sell.... we have to find a way to get arms on the roster who have actual MLB talent and not a single A stud who can’t pitch their way out a wet paper bag in the show! Include a couple players that can’t hit for avg or for god sake put down a bunt against a freaking shift! If last year was a fluke then so was Mookie’s season.... he seems more like .250 hitter that we can’t afford to spend 300 million on long term just to handcuff our future! If you guys think there is talent on this roster, maybe it’s time to start firing coaches.... and I mean all coaches! Go ahead guys rake me over the coals here... I’m just calling it like I see it

[Bellhorn04]

We don't need a whole slew of the season is over threads. All you had to do was update your when does DD push the panic button thread.

[YastrzemskI]

Thank you for last year. It was immense. But you know what needs to happen to make this team competitive this year. Cora can only do so much with the groceries he has. Sell, trade, sign... do whatever you have to do in order to give this team a chance this year. Don’t wait until the trading deadline. The sooner the better. One aspect of this team is sabotaging the remaining moving parts. You are the GM of the Boston Red Sox and you know that looking the other way is not an option. Get it done Sir.

[fxkatt]

The team has to NOW be configured for the playoffs. That means quite simply a closer and a big time rotation guy to free up Eovaldi for the BP either during the season or in the playoffs. Even this might be too little for postseason success, but at least we make it there. (If Wright comes around, all the better, but this is hardly something anyone can count on)

[YastrzemskI]

The team has to NOW be configured for the playoffs. That means quite simply a closer and a big time rotation guy to free up Eovaldi for the BP either during the season or in the playoffs. Even this might be too little for postseason success, but at least we make it there. (If Wright comes around, all the better, but this is hardly something anyone can count on)

 

The Renfroe idea has been kicked around. That and trading for two arms will be enough imo. I don’t know if we can count on Eovaldi at all this year. The cut to the chase analysis is that he has a strong arm that has trouble remaining healthy i.e., setback after setback.

[fxkatt]

The Renfroe idea has been kicked around. That and trading for two arms will be enough imo. I don’t know if we can count on Eovaldi at all this year. The cut to the chase analysis is that he has a strong arm that has trouble remaining healthy i.e., setback after setback.

 

Yeah, I'm not up to date on Eovaldi. I had assumed he would be back by the All-Star break, with a brand new elbow in place.

[dgalehouse]

With three full months left to play , the season is certainly not over . That sounds like a carry over from the usual game thread hysteria .

[TylerD]

Season is not over. The season sucks but it’s not over. When you’re only 2 games out of a playoff spot the season isn’t over. Yankees are better than us no doubt but that doesn’t mean the season is over.

[dgalehouse]

Season is not over. The season sucks but it’s not over. When you’re only 2 games out of a playoff spot the season isn’t over. Yankees are better than us no doubt but that doesn’t mean the season is over.

 

A lot can happen in three months . Injuries , acquisitions , streaks , etc . When the Sox get back home they have six games against two of the worst teams in MLB , Toronto and Detroit . The dregs of the league . A chance to pick up a little ground before the break . Way too early to give up .

Edited June 30, 2019 by dgalehouse

[OH FOY]

78 game season.

[TylerD]

A lot can happen in three months . Injuries , acquisitions , streaks , etc . When the Sox get back home they have six games against two of the worst teams in MLB , Toronto and Detroit . The dregs of the league . A chance to pick up a little ground before the break . Way to early to give up .

 

Well said.

[OH FOY]

46-32 to get to 90 is doable, very doable. 51-27 to get to 95, Sox have to play good ball for this. Its on the Sox not other teams. You focus on yourself. You have no control of other teams slumps or injuries. If you don't do good wont matter anyway. Edited June 30, 2019 by OH FOY!

[notin]

A lot can happen in three months . Injuries , acquisitions , streaks , etc . When the Sox get back home they have six games against two of the worst teams in MLB , Toronto and Detroit . The dregs of the league . A chance to pick up a little ground before the break . Way to early to give up .

 

 

It might be too early to give up, but that decision has to be made within the next 2-3 weeks.

 

So far, Dombrowski’s involvement and apparent interest in the club this season isn’t inspiring me to think he’s going to try to improve anything...

[YastrzemskI]

"We can win the World Series," Cora said emphatically after his team's 12-8 loss to the Yankees. "We just need to play better. We need to get better in every aspect. We can talk about the bullpen or we can talk about the outfielders, or we can talk about the defense or baserunning. We have the talent to win the World Series but we have to play better. I’ve been saying it since Day 1. It better happen sooner rather than later. It’s not that we’re running out of time but the lead is huge. It’s a huge lead and there are other teams around us that are playing good baseball. They’re trending up and we’re not doing that."

[dgalehouse]

46-32 to get to 90 is doable, very doable.

 

Yeah . Especially with so many really terrible teams in the A.L.

[notin]

Yeah . Especially with so many really terrible teams in the A.L.

 

 

All of whom have better bullpens...

[dgalehouse]

It might be too early to give up, but that decision has to be made within the next 2-3 weeks.

 

So far, Dombrowski’s involvement and apparent interest in the club this season isn’t inspiring me to think he’s going to try to improve anything...

 

Yeah . You don't have to convince me . I liked Dombrowski , but I have been unhappy with his inactivity since they got off the duck boats .

[jung]

There is no reason to give on a WC birth. But the division is gone if the division is what we are talking about. Just do the math.

 

Besides, it seems pretty obvious that if anybody is going to bust the budget to get to the crown, this year its the Yankmees.

[oldtimer]

"We can win the World Series," Cora said emphatically after his team's 12-8 loss to the Yankees. "We just need to play better. We need to get better in every aspect. We can talk about the bullpen or we can talk about the outfielders, or we can talk about the defense or baserunning. We have the talent to win the World Series but we have to play better. I’ve been saying it since Day 1. It better happen sooner rather than later. It’s not that we’re running out of time but the lead is huge. It’s a huge lead and there are other teams around us that are playing good baseball. They’re trending up and we’re not doing that."

 

Almost any manager can say we can win the RS, we just have to play better. Face it, the Sox are what their record shows they are. A decent club with some nice talent, but glaring deficiencies with pitching and to some extent defense. They are not in a position to get the pieces they need to turn this season around. If they can get a WC from here it will be positive development.

[dgalehouse]

Cora saying " we can win the World Series " is not a big deal . What else is he supposed to say?

[notin]

Yeah . You don't have to convince me . I liked Dombrowski , but I have been unhappy with his inactivity since they got off the duck boats .

 

 

In the last two off-seasons, he’s really only added JD Martinez. Now JD was a huge and excellent addition, but not enough to be the only add in two off-seasons combined...

[moonslav59]

In the last two off-seasons, he’s really only added JD Martinez. Now JD was a huge and excellent addition, but not enough to be the only add in two off-seasons combined...

 

His in-season additions have been significant.

[notin]

His in-season additions have been significant.

 

But only for short term...