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Probably not a robbery, but given the number of stories coming out of the DR about wealthy athletes being robbed, I'm willing to consider that this might have been an acquaintance or hanger-on who asked Ortiz for money and was turned down. Not that it matters, at this point. All I care about is Ortiz pulling through. This is a bizarre situation and even though this has happened before with MLB players in the DR It's still unbelievable.

 

Apparently he was shot by two guys hired by a drug lord who thought Ortiz was having an affair with his wife. But who knows.....

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7124467/Crowd-attacks-suspect-accused-shooting-David-Big-Papi-Ortiz.html

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NY Post:

Authorities in the Dominican Republic believe David Ortiz was shot by two police officers hired by a drug lord who thought the former Red Sox slugger was having an affair with his wife, according to a report.

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In regards to the arguments about the Ortiz, the US and the DR: While the Dominican Republic has some very sketchy s*** going on and isn't the safest place, unfortunately this type of s*** happens in the US also. Rapper Nipsey Hussle, who is comparable to Ortiz in the fact that he was a rich, well known millionaire, who gave back to his community and was loved by fans and many his profession, was gunned down in his hometown while with his daughter in public in broad daylight. Its a cold world.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/man-killed-two-others-injured-outside-rapper-nipsey-hussle-s-n989371

 

there was this guy named john lennon.....

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there was this guy named john lennon.....

 

I was trying to use a more recent example. But, regardless. If I grew up somewhere s*****, whether it be Baltimore, some third world country, whatever, if I made it out, and was worth millions, I'm never going back. I'm not faulting Ortiz in anyway, but the people in these places just don't give a f***.

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Back for this .....PAPI STRONG !!! This year team patches rally around David freaking ORTIZ !!! Ok I'm out until July .Good day

 

Great idea for a T-shirt, all proceeds going to one of Papi's charities.

 

I've still got one of the original Boston Strong caps. Disgustingly filthy and I wear it with pride.

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Stay classy NY Post!

 

Ortiz, who is recovering from surgery — in which parts of his intestines and colon, as well as his gallbladder, were removed — is married to Tiffany Ortiz and has three children.

I asked UN about the violence once and he told me that a lot of it was about women. Apparently, it is very dangerous to look at the woman of the wrong people.
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Apparently he was shot by two guys hired by a drug lord who thought Ortiz was having an affair with his wife. But who knows.....

 

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7124467/Crowd-attacks-suspect-accused-shooting-David-Big-Papi-Ortiz.html

 

 

 

 

People have a lot of different opinions about journalism, but as someone with a deep interest in the history and current events of the field, let me tell you that the guy screaming on the street corner has a better chance of getting at the truth than the NY Post or the Daily Mail. The Daily Mail is basically the Enquirer of the UK. The number of stories of theirs that have been completely debunked and never retracted is staggering. The Post is a little better but not by much. Until a few outlets that aren't these two start reporting this I'm gonna take it with a huge grain of salt.

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People have a lot of different opinions about journalism, but as someone with a deep interest in the history and current events of the field, let me tell you that the guy screaming on the street corner has a better chance of getting at the truth than the NY Post or the Daily Mail. The Daily Mail is basically the Enquirer of the UK. The number of stories of theirs that have been completely debunked and never retracted is staggering. The Post is a little better but not by much. Until a few outlets that aren't these two start reporting this I'm gonna take it with a huge grain of salt.

 

Agreed, that is not credible news. All things are possible but no one knows yet. I'm sure all the usual DR suspects will be rounded up.

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As a Brit, let me assure you that while they may turn out to have the story right, The Daily Mail is a piece of s***. Think Fox News. Only recently, they darkened the skin of a woman on a photograph that was fighting Brexit in an effort to turn its readers (or are mostly incredibly ignorant, racist and desperate for Brexit) against people in the UK who have darker skin.

 

It is a major part of the reason the UK is going to s***. They lie and stir up hatred with impunity.

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People have a lot of different opinions about journalism, but as someone with a deep interest in the history and current events of the field, let me tell you that the guy screaming on the street corner has a better chance of getting at the truth than the NY Post or the Daily Mail. The Daily Mail is basically the Enquirer of the UK. The number of stories of theirs that have been completely debunked and never retracted is staggering. The Post is a little better but not by much. Until a few outlets that aren't these two start reporting this I'm gonna take it with a huge grain of salt.

 

 

Agreed. All that’s missing is Buzzfeed for the trifecta of unsubstantiated sensational news...

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People have a lot of different opinions about journalism, but as someone with a deep interest in the history and current events of the field, let me tell you that the guy screaming on the street corner has a better chance of getting at the truth than the NY Post or the Daily Mail. The Daily Mail is basically the Enquirer of the UK. The number of stories of theirs that have been completely debunked and never retracted is staggering. The Post is a little better but not by much. Until a few outlets that aren't these two start reporting this I'm gonna take it with a huge grain of salt.

 

Yes, and it's very cool and normal for people on TS to run straight for this kind of muckraking.

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The back story is probably every bit as bizarre as the known facts — that a national hero was the target of an attempted assassination in a crowded public place. No muckraking could surpass what we already know. LOL!
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As a Brit, let me assure you that while they may turn out to have the story right, The Daily Mail is a piece of s***. Think Fox News. Only recently, they darkened the skin of a woman on a photograph that was fighting Brexit in an effort to turn its readers (or are mostly incredibly ignorant, racist and desperate for Brexit) against people in the UK who have darker skin.

 

It is a major part of the reason the UK is going to s***. They lie and stir up hatred with impunity.

 

 

 

While for the most part I agree with your take on the UK Daily Mail, perhaps you could differentiate the substantive difference between FOX's clear Right Leaning bias vs. the obvious Left Leaning bias of CNN, MSNBC, etc.?

 

Can you list for me some significant news stories, not the opinion side of their coverage, where FOX falsely reported a major news story?

 

For the record, the "reporting" by the msm on the Kavanaugh Hearings, & his reported "35 year old" Chain Rape charges was beyond the pale. The msm turned the scales of justice upside down, with the tried & true "well, we can't PROVE that he didn't do it, so it's the seriousness of the charges that MUST rule the day."

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It will be interesting to see if there are other arrests in the assassination attempt. If Ortiz doesn’t go back to the DR after he recovers, that would indicate that there is more is going on than a lone individual assassin.
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It will be interesting to see if there are other arrests in the assassination attempt. If Ortiz doesn’t go back to the DR after he recovers, that would indicate that there is more is going on than a lone individual assassin.

 

i thought i read last night that there was 2 people on the motorcycle. they have 1 in custody (the motorcycle driver that received some street justice) but the trigger man is on the lamb....

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Politics!

 

No. It was a direct response, with context, to Hitch's critique on 'how some/ many in the media can run with a false narrative.'

 

As many in the media are running with unsubstantiated stories about why Papi was almost taken out / assassinated.....

 

Not political. Just fact.

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No. It was a direct response, with context, to Hitch's critique on 'how some/ many in the media can run with a false narrative.'

 

As many in the media are running with unsubstantiated stories about why Papi was almost taken out / assassinated.....

 

Not political. Just fact.

 

 

I think it was your Faux News/MSNBC/CNN commentary that inspired the political rebuke...

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i thought i read last night that there was 2 people on the motorcycle. they have 1 in custody (the motorcycle driver that received some street justice) but the trigger man is on the lamb....

 

 

He’s on a lamb? That should make for a slow getaway...

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God be with You and your family David .I bet some of our friends in the boroughs don't take kindly to what happened here .I think they dun Fd up messing with a Boston Hero never mind his Dominican friends .These things tend to work out . Edited by Swiharts Ghost
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ahahaha. wait...is that the wrong term?

 

 

Lam... No “b”.

 

But it’s a funny expression either way...

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