The Pen

[moonslav59]

The question is how much better would we be with Kimbrel and Kelly. Most of that falls to Kelly since this team is usually behind going into the 9th so Kimbrel wouldn't be getting save opp's. Kelly seems to have turned the corner some out in LA now but I question whether his presence so far would have made a big difference.

 

The problem children are Price and Porcillo. If they were performing as expected it's possible that Kimbrel would be getting more save opp's as our pen wouldn't be as overtaxed and maybe not as bad.

 

I think you meant Sale and Porcello not Price.

 

The plan, all along, was that we'd hit a wall at some point, both with the budget and with the lack of top prospects in the system. It was "win now," but the good part was that the "now" was a 4-5 year window and not a 1-2 year stretch most teams plan for.

[S5Dewey]

I think you meant Sale and Porcello not Price.

 

The plan, all along, was that we'd hit a wall at some point, both with the budget and with the lack of top prospects in the system. It was "win now," but the good part was that the "now" was a 4-5 year window and not a 1-2 year stretch most teams plan for.

 

Hah! Yes. Thank you. Those damn P words confuse me sometimes.

 

And I think your second paragraph is about what I said a couple of days ago, only you said it better and in fewer words. :-)

[notin]

I think you meant Sale and Porcello not Price

 

 

Yeah but admit it. The words “Sale” and “Price” just go together so well...

[Bellhorn04]

Eovaldi pitched an inning for the PawSox today. 3 K's and a walk.

[YastrzemskI]

Sighhh.. When will something be done about the pen? How much longer will management just sit back and throw caution to the wind? Anytime the game is close... it’s fasten your seat belts with this team. It’s like playing the damn lotto.

[Bellhorn04]

In last night's game, over the final 3 innings, the Yankees bullpen chalked up the following stats:

 

Wins 1

Holds 1

Saves 1

Blown Saves 2

 

It's no wonder some of these team relief stats are a little hard to decipher.

[notin]

In last night's game, over the final 3 innings, the Yankees bullpen chalked up the following stats:

 

Wins 1

Holds 1

Saves 1

Blown Saves 2

 

It's no wonder some of these team relief stats are a little hard to decipher.

 

Small sample size?

[OH FOY]

In last night's game, over the final 3 innings, the Yankees bullpen chalked up the following stats:

 

Wins 1

Holds 1

Saves 1

Blown Saves 2

 

It's no wonder some of these team relief stats are a little hard to decipher.

 

What were the Twins? They lost cant be much better.

[Bellhorn04]

Small sample size?

 

Yes, I just think it demonstrates the general wonkiness that a 3 inning span can generate 5 separate statistics.

[Kimmi]

In last night's game, over the final 3 innings, the Yankees bullpen chalked up the following stats:

 

Wins 1

Holds 1

Saves 1

Blown Saves 2

 

It's no wonder some of these team relief stats are a little hard to decipher.

 

I just read that the Sox have the 4th best save % in the month of July.

[Bellhorn04]

What were the Twins? They lost cant be much better.

 

Yep, Twins relievers racked up a Loss, a Hold, and 2 Blown Saves.

[dgalehouse]

I don't know if the numbers would bear this out , but it seems to me that there are more blown saves this year than ever before . The Red Sox are not the only ones doing it .

[Bellhorn04]

I don't know if the numbers would bear this out , but it seems to me that there are more blown saves this year than ever before . The Red Sox are not the only ones doing it .

 

It's quite possible, because pitchers are giving up more runs, period, because of the Manfred Missile.

[OH FOY]

Pitchers don't head hunt today. Batters have no fear in the Batters Box. Very Rare. Most of these guys have more padding then a NFL player. Plus the Manfred Missile, hahahahahah. Edited July 24, 2019 by OH FOY!

[OH FOY]

Not at the head, but High and tight at the Hands. Hardly ever see that.

[moonslav59]

Another game lost by the pen.

 

Just kidding.

[Kimmi]

I don't know if the numbers would bear this out , but it seems to me that there are more blown saves this year than ever before . The Red Sox are not the only ones doing it .

 

2019 Save %:

AL 65.06

NL 64.26

MLB 64.66

 

2018 Save %:

AL 66.43

NL 65.66

MLB 66.05

 

Save percentages are down a little bit this year, though I don't know if that's significant or not.

 

Teams' win percentages when leading after the 7th, 8th, or 9th innings have stayed remarkably the same throughout history, regardless of the different eras in baseball.

[Kimmi]

Another game lost by the pen.

 

Just kidding.

 

Ha. I had this exact thought after yesterday's game. Great minds.

[Bellhorn04]

I think it's been a while now since the pen outright blew a game...

[Kimmi]

I think it's been a while now since the pen outright blew a game...

 

4th best save % in July!

[dgalehouse]

The " bullpen is not a problem " spin is still going strong.

[Bellhorn04]

The " bullpen is not a problem " spin is still going strong.

 

If that's what you get from the comments from Kimmi and me, you need to lighten up a little.

[moonslav59]

The " bullpen is not a problem " spin is still going strong.

 

It's not a spin. Nobody likes the way our pen has pitched overall, but more games have been lost by our starters than our pen, and it's not even close!

 

That's not spin. Our SP'ers and pen have both sucked far too often.

[jacksonianmarch]

Our SP'ers and pen have both sucked far too often.

 

That's the moral of the story. It's a comprehensive failure of the entire staff

[Slasher9]

That's the moral of the story. It's a comprehensive failure of the entire staff

 

But what about erod? Oh never mind. He doesn’t wear pinstripes

[jacksonianmarch]

ERod has been a bright spot on the Sox staff and even he has taken a productivity downturn from last year. He has certainly taken a durability upgrade

[moonslav59]

But what about erod? Oh never mind. He doesn’t wear pinstripes

 

Not the entire staff. ERod has been very good, Price, too. Workman has done pretty well, but as a whole, the pitching staff has sucked way too often, which implies not all the time.

[a700hitter]

4th best save % in July!

Lipstick on a pig.

[Maxbialystock]

The " bullpen is not a problem " spin is still going strong.

 

I admit to helping it along, but have to admit there are definitely some bullpens that are a whole lot better. DD went cheap on the bullpen, which I was fine with, but right now i'm plenty worried.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I wonder if D.Hernandez will get opportunities to pitch in more high leverage situations? With Eovaldi taking over the closer role, will Hernandez eventually take over the 8th inning set up role? Hernandez has dominant stuff, but his walks are concerning.