Harper and Machado

[bkzwhitestrican]

I wouldn't be surprise if they sign Harper too.

 

That would be pretty awesome. The Pads would instantly go from unwatchable baseball team to must watch. At least for the first few weeks of the season.

[Slasher9]

opt out after 5 according to my sources

[notin]

That would be pretty awesome. The Pads would instantly go from unwatchable baseball team to must watch. At least for the first few weeks of the season.

 

 

They’d be smarter to ignore Harper and pursue Keuchel.

 

 

Also, I assume Machado returns to 3b, bit if he is the SS, that gives the Padres an outstanding trade chip in Tatis..,

[moonslav59]

San Diego is a great place to play. Beautiful ball park. Great weather. Surrounding area is one of the nicest places in the nation. Plus, if you have a s***** year, you won't have to deal with much media fallout.

 

Super high taxes, though.

[Slasher9]

Super high taxes, though.

 

rich people dont pay taxes. especially now.

[mvp 78]

Super high taxes, though.

 

If taxes were a big issue for these guys, people would only play in FL and TX.

[mvp 78]

Super high taxes, though.

 

Combined sales and income tax leaders

The Tax Foundation interprets individual tax burden by what taxpayers actually spend in local and state taxes, rather than report these expenses from the state revenue perspective used by the Census Bureau. Its State and Local Tax Burden Rankings study reported that Americans paid an average rate of 9.9 percent in state and local taxes in 2012. According to the foundation, the five highest state-local tax states were:

 

New York 12.7 %

Connecticut 12.6%

New Jersey 12.2%

Illinois 11.0%

California and Wisconsin 11.0%

[Slasher9]

Combined sales and income tax leaders

The Tax Foundation interprets individual tax burden by what taxpayers actually spend in local and state taxes, rather than report these expenses from the state revenue perspective used by the Census Bureau. Its State and Local Tax Burden Rankings study reported that Americans paid an average rate of 9.9 percent in state and local taxes in 2012. According to the foundation, the five highest state-local tax states were:

 

New York 12.7 %

Connecticut 12.6%

New Jersey 12.2%

Illinois 11.0%

California and Wisconsin 11.0%

 

your new signature is LIT

[dgalehouse]

A tip of the fedora to the Padres for breaking the logjam and taking a gamble in an attempt to improve their team and , hopefully, make a run at the Dodgers. And a good day for San Diego fans who lost their football team to L.A . recently. And very good to see Machado not go to New York. We didn't need that . Expect Harper to sign shortly , probably with Philly .

[mvp 78]

Padres should sign Harper too.

[Station 13]

And that's the last anybody heard of Mr. Hustle.

[notin]

And that's the last anybody heard of Mr. Hustle.

 

 

Some of us just call him “Johnny”...

[moonslav59]

If taxes were a big issue for these guys, people would only play in FL and TX.

 

Texas has high property and sales tax to make up for no income tax, but yes, playing in TX would be better, if only they'd offer big contracts.

[Slasher9]

will be interesting to see the details of this contract.

wonder if it's team friendly the first few years a la the Stanton/Marlins contract? with SD having an eye to trade him before the really big $$$ years kick in.....

[notin]

Combined sales and income tax leaders

The Tax Foundation interprets individual tax burden by what taxpayers actually spend in local and state taxes, rather than report these expenses from the state revenue perspective used by the Census Bureau. Its State and Local Tax Burden Rankings study reported that Americans paid an average rate of 9.9 percent in state and local taxes in 2012. According to the foundation, the five highest state-local tax states were:

 

New York 12.7 %

Connecticut 12.6%

New Jersey 12.2%

Illinois 11.0%

California and Wisconsin 11.0%

 

 

He only plays 61% of his games in California...

[moonslav59]

will be interesting to see the details of this contract.

wonder if it's team friendly the first few years a la the Stanton/Marlins contract? with SD having an eye to trade him before the really big $$$ years kick in.....

 

MLBTR...

 

Machado will receive the $300MM on a fairly evenly spread basis, with the opt-out chance midway through the deal.

 

There are some key elements of the deal still to be worked out, per Jon Heyman of MLB Network (Twitter link). Notably, the sides have yet to hammer out terms on trade protection.

[mvp 78]

He only plays 61% of his games in California...

 

Would depend on interleague schedule year to year.

 

I'm also not sure the tax implications of Spring Training. Do they only get paid on a per game basis? Spring Training isn't included in that? Off days?

 

This is why I was an auditor, not a tax accountant.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Would depend on interleague schedule year to year.

 

I'm also not sure the tax implications of Spring Training. Do they only get paid on a per game basis? Spring Training isn't included in that? Off days?

 

This is why I was an auditor, not a tax accountant.

 

Auditors, the scum of the accounting world!!

[Bellhorn04]

auditors, the scum of the accounting world!!

 

lol

[jportilloromero]

PECOTA projection for Pads was 77-85 before Manny's news, how should be the projection after they signed Manny?

[Bellhorn04]

PECOTA projection for Pads was 77-85 before Manny's news, how should be the projection after they signed Manny?

 

82-80

[Kimmi]

MLBTR...

 

Machado will receive the $300MM on a fairly evenly spread basis, with the opt-out chance midway through the deal.

 

There are some key elements of the deal still to be worked out, per Jon Heyman of MLB Network (Twitter link). Notably, the sides have yet to hammer out terms on trade protection.

 

Dang, just when I started to have some faith in GMs not signing players to these crazy contracts.

 

All I can think is stupid, stupid, stupid.

[Kimmi]

PECOTA projection for Pads was 77-85 before Manny's news, how should be the projection after they signed Manny?

 

As of the moment I am posting this, they are 79-83.

[Northern Star]

I'll go on record predicting the Padres will regret this, depending on the opt out or not.

[dgalehouse]

Should be interesting to see if Boras can get a better deal for Harper. On the face of it , Machado is the better player of the two .

[Bellhorn04]

Should be interesting to see if Boras can get a better deal for Harper. On the face of it , Machado is the better player of the two .

 

They're almost identical based on their career...ah, never mind.

[Northern Star]

Which will decline quicker?

[Fan_since_Boggs]

White Sox fans are devastated, entertaining reading:

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php

 

The post, "Machado signs with Padres" is up to 859 pages:

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?/topic/106772-yeah-they-actually-screwed-this-up-machado-reportedly-signs-with-padres/&page=859

 

The White Sox are idiots. Basically, the White Sox offered Machado 8 years with two team options. Why would Machado accept that contract over the Padres guaranteed 10 year offer?

 

I'll go on record predicting the Padres will regret this, depending on the opt out or not.

 

I don't know. At some point, one of these 10 year contracts will work out for the team. This could be the one. The fact that Machado and Harper reached free agency at such a young age lessens the risk.

 

The Manny Ramirez contract worked out pretty well for the Red Sox (two championshps), but his contract was for 8 years, not 10. Still, Manny produced at a high level for most of the contract and Machado and Harper could do the same over a 10 year period.

Edited February 20, 2019 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I'm glad I don't root for the White Sox, what a train wreck of an organization.

 

https://www.southsidesox.com/2019/2/19/18232329/manny-machado-chicago-white-sox-san-diego-padres-so-what-the-hell-just-happened

 

https://www.southsidesox.com/2019/2/19/18232628/why-todays-comments-from-rick-hahn-and-kenny-williams-are-a-big-deal

 

The White Sox didn't offer Machado an opt-out clause because "the organization doesn't believe in that philosophy." How are they ever going to sign a top free agent?

 

The comments made by White Sox top brass should scare fans. Kenny Williams, the hoarder of the spotlight he was supposed to let go years ago, mentioned the Sox were not willing to meet the magical $300 million mark for guaranteed money. Instead, they wanted to lowball a superstar, offer dumb vesting options that probably had no real shot at converting, and did not offer any opt-outs. Oh, but they were super creative, right, Rick? Well, how creative can the team be when the organization doesn’t even believe in opt-outs.

Edited February 20, 2019 by Fan_since_Boggs

[notin]

Now do the Padres use their plethora of prospects to entice the Guardians to trade Bauer or Kluber?

 

If only they hadn’t traded Kluber for Ryan Ludwick all those years ago...