Who Should the Red Sox Trade For?

[CharlieWhigg]

https://redsoxunfiltered.com/2018/06/17/possible-boston-red-sox-trade-targets/

 

We've been absolutely awful against lefty pitching, and that should be the first thing we address in any trade. There's a few good players out there that should be available though, and I'd love a Lowrie reunion.

[moonslav59]

I doubt we make any move that puts us over the maximum penalty limit ($2-3 M to go), but then again, the penalty is not really all that horrible as a 1 year thing.

 

Here are the best hitters vs LHPs since 2017 (100+ PAs) that may be available:

 

1.024 Adrian Beltre

1.004 Jose Abreu

.981 Avisail Garcia

.973 Nick Castellanos

.970 Josh Donaldson

.934 Brian Dozier

.927 Whit Merrifield

.900 James McCann

.889 Jonathon Schoop

.871 Jorge Soler

.863 Joey Votto

 

I doubt we have the pieces to get any of the above players, but maybe one from below is doable:

 

.914 Justin Smoak

.899 Adam Duvall

.887 Kendrys Morales

.868 Ehire Adrianza

.810 Todd Frazier

 

.756 Jed Lowrie is not what we need.

[jacksonianmarch]

I think the Sox will pry Beltre from the Rangers. Beltre is a 10 and 5 guy, so he’d have to play it, but he owes Boston something for reviving his career and getting him that second big contract. At the same time, the Rangers are rebuilding and keeping him around makes no sense. Beltre will be in demand, though, as he’s still managed to hit despite his body betraying him a bit. He’s an FA at season’s end, which will allow for Devers to resume his spot.

 

I could see a Sox dream scenario where Beltre comes in, Devers goes to AAA and kills it. He comes back up as a 1B/3B/DH option with Beltre manning 3b mostly full time. If Devers is going, and Beltre comes in as a steady presence, the lineup of...

 

Betts RF

Beni CF

JDM LF

Beltre 3B

Moreland 1B

Bogaerts SS

Devers DH

Holt 2B

Vasquez C

 

That lineup is deep, especially if a trip to AAA gets Devers hitting like the all star he is destined to become. What would it take to get Beltre? Probably a fair amount. I’d assume Houck, Groome, Mata, or Beeks would be a headliner with a secondary piece also going like Shawaryn. But that’d be a heck of a get for you guys

[moonslav59]

I think the Sox will pry Beltre from the Rangers. Beltre is a 10 and 5 guy, so he’d have to play it, but he owes Boston something for reviving his career and getting him that second big contract. At the same time, the Rangers are rebuilding and keeping him around makes no sense. Beltre will be in demand, though, as he’s still managed to hit despite his body betraying him a bit. He’s an FA at season’s end, which will allow for Devers to resume his spot.

 

I could see a Sox dream scenario where Beltre comes in, Devers goes to AAA and kills it. He comes back up as a 1B/3B/DH option with Beltre manning 3b mostly full time. If Devers is going, and Beltre comes in as a steady presence, the lineup of...

 

Betts RF

Beni CF

JDM LF

Beltre 3B

Moreland 1B

Bogaerts SS

Devers DH

Holt 2B

Vasquez C

 

That lineup is deep, especially if a trip to AAA gets Devers hitting like the all star he is destined to become. What would it take to get Beltre? Probably a fair amount. I’d assume Houck, Groome, Mata, or Beeks would be a headliner with a secondary piece also going like Shawaryn. But that’d be a heck of a get for you guys

 

Devers does not match up well with Moreland at 1B, but Devers at DH could happen for a few months anyways. He'd still get to play some 3B.

 

I doubt Devers gets sent to AAA, if we trade for Beltre. We'd just trade or DFA Swihart.

 

If JBJ has a hot streak, we could see him and Swihart traded to make room for Beltre and keep devers in the line-up, primarily as a DH.

 

Our OF defense would be weakened, but our 3B defense would be strengthened.

[jacksonianmarch]

And your lineup will be lengthened. Devers needs work on his approach. He’s jumpy and that’s not him. This is what young players do when they struggle, especially a guy who never struggled in the minors. Sometimes it’s best to have struggled and overcome at a lower level than it is to first struggle as a big leaguer. I think a month in AAA could do him wonders.

 

And yes, it significantly worsens Your OF defense, but the bottom half of the lineup is atrocious. Eventually, playoff teams will not pitch to JDM and your offense will stagnate more. Lengthening the offense with a proven hitter and giving the kid a breather to adjust could turn your offense from stalled to supercharged

[moonslav59]

And your lineup will be lengthened. Devers needs work on his approach. He’s jumpy and that’s not him. This is what young players do when they struggle, especially a guy who never struggled in the minors. Sometimes it’s best to have struggled and overcome at a lower level than it is to first struggle as a big leaguer. I think a month in AAA could do him wonders.

 

And yes, it significantly worsens Your OF defense, but the bottom half of the lineup is atrocious. Eventually, playoff teams will not pitch to JDM and your offense will stagnate more. Lengthening the offense with a proven hitter and giving the kid a breather to adjust could turn your offense from stalled to supercharged

 

As I recall, Devers did struggle for a few weeks here and there on the farm, and he did have a long stretch to start the 2016 in Salem. he was at .635 after 63 games. He was at .686 after 72 games.

[mvp 78]

A reliever or two.

[jacksonianmarch]

A reliever or two.

 

You’ve got the capital to make one upgrade. It’s just as important that you’re right against the cap as it is your farm being depleted.

[vegasbob]

One thing we do know was that Denard Span (and Colome) were available earlier. Span could have been in LF, Beni in CF and Mookie stays in right. JBJr--- he was last seen going to a pitching machine for bunting practice.

[moonslav59]

Span could have been in LF, Beni in CF and Mookie stays in right.

 

No thanks to the .690 career vs LHPs OF'er.

 

We don't have the resources to make a deal for someone who doesn't address our biggest current need... hitting vs lefties.

 

We are not really sure what our biggest need will be at the deadline, so I think we'd be better off waiting on Pedey and see what we need in July.

[CharlieWhigg]

No thanks to the .690 career vs LHPs OF'er.

 

We don't have the resources to make a deal for someone who doesn't address our biggest current need... hitting vs lefties.

 

We are not really sure what our biggest need will be at the deadline, so I think we'd be better off waiting on Pedey and see what we need in July.

 

Even when Pedey comes back, I'm not sure how much you can rely on him staying back. His body has been through hell, and he deserves all the credit in the world for doing all he does to get in the lineup. However, I think you need to find a second base option that's capable of hitting lefties and being a day to day starter. Presumably, Castro would cost too much to acquire, so to me Lowrie is the best option

[oldtimer]

Devers does not match up well with Moreland at 1B, but Devers at DH could happen for a few months anyways. He'd still get to play some 3B.

 

I doubt Devers gets sent to AAA, if we trade for Beltre. We'd just trade or DFA Swihart.

 

If JBJ has a hot streak, we could see him and Swihart traded to make room for Beltre and keep devers in the line-up, primarily as a DH.

 

Our OF defense would be weakened, but our 3B defense would be strengthened.

 

The Blue Jays are reeling. Why not try to get Kevin Pillar as an upgrade over JBJ. His full season salary is $3.5 mil, he is similar defensively to JBJ but hit 50 points higher in BA and has a *1.5 WAR. He is 29 years old so would fit the team for a number of years. No need to move Beni. Beltre is 38 years old and has been a great player but expecting him to contribute as more than a part time player is optimistic. I would move Swihart as he is showing no real promise.

[Natick to NC]

Machado for Devers and a double A raffle ticket .

[CharlieWhigg]

Machado for Devers and a double A raffle ticket .

Absolutely not. Devers is gonna be a beast with five years of team control, and he’s already getting better. Machado is a one month rental

[Natick to NC]

Absolutely not. Devers is gonna be a beast with five years of team control, and he’s already getting better. Machado is a one month rental

 

Yeah ....ill take Machado .

[jacksonianmarch]

The Blue Jays are reeling. Why not try to get Kevin Pillar as an upgrade over JBJ. His full season salary is $3.5 mil, he is similar defensively to JBJ but hit 50 points higher in BA and has a *1.5 WAR. He is 29 years old so would fit the team for a number of years. No need to move Beni. Beltre is 38 years old and has been a great player but expecting him to contribute as more than a part time player is optimistic. I would move Swihart as he is showing no real promise.

 

Pillar will be very expensive at this point

[Jack Flap]

Yeah ....ill take Machado .

 

You'd take 1/2 a year of Machado over 5 1/2 of Devers?

[fxkatt]

Todd Frazier is making about 7 mill and at half that he might fit. Should be easy to get from the Mets. He's hitting about 225 and 7 homers. We almost picked him up last year.

[Natick to NC]

You'd take 1/2 a year of Machado over 5 1/2 of Devers?

 

Yup ...I think he would sign with us after playing at Fenway and us fans .

[Kimmi]

Yup ...I think he would sign with us after playing at Fenway and us fans .

 

Just say no to Machado.

 

Even if Machado weren't a punk, I would rather have Devers.

[SoxHop]

Yup ...I think he would sign with us after playing at Fenway and us fans .

 

Face Palm

[moonslav59]

Even when Pedey comes back, I'm not sure how much you can rely on him staying back. His body has been through hell, and he deserves all the credit in the world for doing all he does to get in the lineup. However, I think you need to find a second base option that's capable of hitting lefties and being a day to day starter. Presumably, Castro would cost too much to acquire, so to me Lowrie is the best option

 

Lowrie doesn't hit lefties well.

[moonslav59]

Machado for Devers and a double A raffle ticket .

 

2 months?

[Youk Of The Nation]

Yup ...I think he would sign with us after playing at Fenway and us fans .

 

Boston sports fans being known the world over for their warm, inviting personalities and easy acceptance of new faces.

[Larry Cook]

We need a late innings by reliable reliever.

 

Thornburg is a shell of his former self.

 

Smith is out after surgery.

 

Hand from San Diego would work.

[Natick to NC]

Boston sports fans being known the world over for their warm, inviting personalities and easy acceptance of new faces.

 

Exactly ,the warm confines of Fenway will welcome and give him a standing O ....book it .

[Natick to NC]

2 months?

 

2 months plus 10 years yes .

[kenmeister]

Lowrie doesn't hit lefties well.

 

So? We need an upgrade for 2B from Nunez.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Exactly ,the warm confines of Fenway will welcome and give him a standing O ....book it .

 

I honestly can't tell if you're being ironic or if you actually believe this. And I'm usually very good at making that distinction, even online. So well done, I guess?

[Natick to NC]

I honestly can't tell if you're being ironic or if you actually believe this. And I'm usually very good at making that distinction, even online. So well done, I guess?

 

No worries ...I would expect a trade within 10 days for Machado

Edited June 18, 2018 by Natick to NC