Michael Chavis Suspended for PEDs

[Carpin]

80 games suspension announced today

[Spudboy]

Loser.

[moonslav59]

I guess that explains a lot.

 

Shoulda traded him last August.

 

(lol)

[Kimmi]

Loser.

 

Yup.

 

Shame on him.

[a700hitter]

I guess we now know why he has progressed so well.

[notin]

So much for my assumption that he was trade bait. ..

[jacksonianmarch]

That HR jump makes sense now. He’s dead as a prospect now. His power was the real standout tool and if there was an unnatural reason for it, he’s effectively going to fade into irrelevance. Edited April 7, 2018 by jacksonianmarch

[FredLynn]

Where will the stupidity end? Do these guys think they aren't going to get caught?

 

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2018/04/06/top-red-sox-prospect-michael-chavis-suspended-80-games

[Natick to NC]

Idiot ...

[mvp 78]

But can he play 2b?

[notin]

But can he play 2b?

 

No but he can sand a canoe with his bacne...

[harmony]

I am no great fan of Michael Chavis (and no fan of steroids), but this matter may point up the difficulty of monitoring every substance that enters the body.

 

From medical prescriptions to over-the-counter supplements to protein shakes, a player places great trust that the provider is not dispensing a banned substance.

 

On one hand, Chavis may have knowingly consumed a banned substance in hopes of enhancing his performance.

 

On the other hand, as Chavis contends, the top prospect may have no idea how the banned substance turned up in his urine.

[jad]

If I were a young player, I would likely consider that the possible gains are worth the risk.

[Jasonbay44]

I mean if it helps him out and turns him into a star, f*** it. Nelson Cruz did it and I'm sure he has no regrets (at least in terms of baseball, not sure what the other side effects were for him).

[FredLynn]

I am no great fan of Michael Chavis (and no fan of steroids), but this matter may point up the difficulty of monitoring every substance that enters the body.

 

From medical prescriptions to over-the-counter supplements to protein shakes, a player places great trust that the provider is not dispensing a banned substance.

 

On one hand, Chavis may have knowingly consumed a banned substance in hopes of enhancing his performance.

 

On the other hand, as Chavis contends, the top prospect may have no idea how the banned substance turned up in his urine.

 

One guy (I think he is a UFC fighter) said that the banned substance that turned up in his urine was because he ate meat (beef) from Mexico while he was training there. Who knows? At the end of the day the athlete has to be held accountable for positive test results IMO. Otherwise there will be a litany of excuses as to how the test results were positive. There is no other way.

[a700hitter]

There is too much money in the game and the temptation is too great.

[Larry Cook]

It’s a shame. Hopefully he learns from this and uses it to his advantage down the road.

[a700hitter]

It’s a shame. Hopefully he learns from this and uses it to his advantage down the road.

He will probably continue to use the additional muscle mass (built with PEDs) to his advantage.

[Kimmi]

I am no great fan of Michael Chavis (and no fan of steroids), but this matter may point up the difficulty of monitoring every substance that enters the body.

 

From medical prescriptions to over-the-counter supplements to protein shakes, a player places great trust that the provider is not dispensing a banned substance.

 

On one hand, Chavis may have knowingly consumed a banned substance in hopes of enhancing his performance.

 

On the other hand, as Chavis contends, the top prospect may have no idea how the banned substance turned up in his urine.

 

I guess I'm too skeptical, but I never believe it when the athlete says that he doesn't know how the substance got into his urine. If I were in a similar situation, I'd be darn sure before I put anything into my body that would be even remotely 'iffy'.

[notin]

Are these banned substances so common players ingest them every time they eat a Big Mac or drink Country Time lemonade? Maybe I'm wrong but I have to think most if not all are isolated enough that any ingestion is intentional...

[Maxbialystock]

I think the SOB is guilty and am glad they caught him.

[oldtimer]

Whatever the reasoon, intentional or not, he is out for 80 days and that will put his career on hold likely for all of this season as far as the Sox team is

concerned. It sounds like travis is their backup plan for a hitter should someone underperform or get injured. With Pedey coming back in a month or two, we may not need anyone so it is not a huge loss at this point.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

It is not hard to see what happened. His career was going nowhere, he started juicing, and the HR production spiked. He finally looked like a legitimate prospect. But now we know that such things were a mirage, a result of PEDs. He has lost all of his trade value and is basically back to being a non-factor again. He is an irrelevant prospect until he returns and proves he can hit without juicing. Problem is, Chavis probably can't hit without juicing--HR power was his only tool.

[fxkatt]

I think there are a lot of factors that weigh into whether a player is covering up or is honestly surprised at test results. I have little faith in the accuracy and broad sweep of these drug tests, and assume that 25% are false. There is close to a 10-20% inaccuracy with almost all medical tests, esp. of this nature. Add in the countless legal supplements aimed at all athletes which have untested substances and thus have a good chance of setting off a positive result. (and yes, even meat loaded with growth hormones)

 

So how do we know. There are physical signs, performance signs, player history... etc, with steroids, the facial changes are key. But this approach is hardly foolproof.

 

In any case, I hope Michael C can continue to get in a lot of work on the side, whatever that is, because the penalty is extreme for a first time offender. It sounds like something that murderous Philippines president would deal out.

Edited April 7, 2018 by fxkatt

[a700hitter]

If I were a young player, I would likely consider that the possible gains are worth the risk.

The money and temptation are too great. If you are buried in the minors, you have nothing to lose.

[Bellhorn04]

Sux. Little else to say.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

The money and temptation are too great. If you are buried in the minors, you have nothing to lose.

 

I agree with this; and Chavis fits this profile perfectly. His minor league career was going nowhere--he had nothing to lose.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

The Red Sox system has been hit pretty hard over the last two seasons, beginning with the unfortunate and sad passing of D.Flores. And now we learn that Chavis was juicing. Thus, the Red Sox system, which was trending in the wrong direction anyway, lost two of their better prospects without getting anything in return.

[jacksonianmarch]

He will probably continue to use the additional muscle mass (built with PEDs) to his advantage.

 

He may, but he would need the testosterone to keep the muscle mass long term. It has been built, but it needs to be sustained

[a700hitter]

He may, but he would need the testosterone to keep the muscle mass long term. It has been built, but it needs to be sustained

If the muscle mass is not unnaturally large, he could sustain it without help.