Yanks v Sox, rivalry renewed

[illinoisredsox]

Watching quick pitch, stifling a yawn and then BOOM! Yanks/Sox brawl. Boys, I love this s***. That burly kid came at my boy and Joe motioned: "come on"!

 

It was a nice throw by takedown. Unfortunately, Kelly immediately gave up the escape and was in the process of being taken down. Still, when the cavalry arrived, it was 2-1 Kelly.

[S5Dewey]

It was a nice throw by takedown. Unfortunately, Kelly immediately gave up the escape and was in the process of being taken down. Still, when the cavalry arrived, it was 2-1 Kelly.

 

A wrestling fan, I see.

[Carbo-Diem]

Joe "cajones grandes" Kelly. Pedroia should take a lesson.

 

[illinoisredsox]

A wrestling fan, I see.

 

Older boy was a good high school wrestler; I still go to the high school meets even though he graduated 7 years ago.

[S5Dewey]

Older boy was a good high school wrestler; I still go to the high school meets even though he graduated 7 years ago.

 

It's a great sport. I run the scoreboard for the local HS wrestling team.

[Hugh2]

Owning your pitching is not grounds for getting beaned in the head. If that was the case then Joe Kelly would have to pelt half the league.

 

Hitting a guy in the mid back is one thing, and many would argue is part of the game.....but Headhunting is a completely different issue. No one should advocate for guys being thrown at there.

[illinoisredsox]

It's a great sport. I run the scoreboard for the local HS wrestling team.

 

Good for you. Being in Illinois (a top 5 HS wrestling state), I've had the pleasure of seeing some of the best kids in the country over the years, especially back when my son was competing and I would make those 3-4 hour drives on a Friday night/Saturday morning to Chicagoland or down to the St. Louis area which I did seemingly every weekend in his 3 varsity years. We were a large school on the western edge of the state so they traveled to seek better competition elsewhere in the state. It never translated to a state trip for him (lost the match in OT to go to Champaign for the final weekend) but he was better for it. What he (and all wrestlers, no matter what their skill level) got out of it was discipline and learning to push yourself to what you thought was the limit and even beyond. I'll hire a former wrestler any day of the week.

[Carter]

It's a great sport. I run the scoreboard for the local HS wrestling team.

It is indeed a great sport. When I was a kid, living in a poor St. Louis area I had plenty of fights. Won some, lost some. But after I became a wrestler I never lost another. Yes, I had several bar fights over the years and often didn't have to throw a punch! You see, if you GRAB a guy his natural instinct is to get free, not punch. The best boxer in the world has no shot in a grabbing contest.

 

I once got in a fight with a dude who was obviously a wrestler too. I went for the old dbl-leg takedown and he countered with a perfect pancake. We realized we were kindred combatants and laughed it all off.

 

Another good thing about the sport: injuries are rare. BASEBALL is far more dangerous.

[Slasher9]

Like i said pages ago. this isn't a rivalry. yankees have to actually be good for it to be considered as such. personally i think the next 4 games are more of a rivalry.

[mvp 78]

Like i said pages ago. this isn't a rivalry. yankees have to actually be good for it to be considered as such. personally i think the next 4 games are more of a rivalry.

 

My thoughts exactly. Hard to have a rivalry against a below .500 bush league team like that.

[Carter]

Like i said pages ago. this isn't a rivalry. yankees have to actually be good for it to be considered as such. personally i think the next 4 games are more of a rivalry.

Odd sentiment...they could suck all year and still do YOU damage, or lay down to a team you need for them to beat if the race gets close.

[Slasher9]

Odd sentiment...they could suck all year and still do YOU damage, or lay down to a team you need for them to beat if the race gets close.

that is not the explanation of "rivalry" to me. if that is the case....every team we play this year or that plays the other teams in our division would be our rival.

do you consider the brewers your rival?

[mvp 78]

Odd sentiment...they could suck all year and still do YOU damage, or lay down to a team you need for them to beat if the race gets close.

 

Picture it this way:

 

After decades of the Cards winning World Series after World Series and the Cubs being a laughing stock, how would Cubbies fans feel if the Cards start sucking s*** for a while? Wouldn't Cubs fans be able to be more dismissive of Cardinals fan swagger and the belief that STL is the best baseball town? Wouldn't Cubs be more empowered to look down on Cards fans after being s*** on by them for decades and decades?

 

Now picture that x 10 since Sox and Yankees fans commingle on a daily basis.

[cp176]

Odd sentiment...they could suck all year and still do YOU damage, or lay down to a team you need for them to beat if the race gets close.

 

Is that Bruno Samartino?

[Carter]

that is not the explanation of "rivalry" to me. if that is the case....every team we play this year or that plays the other teams in our division would be our rival.

do you consider the brewers your rival?

Well yes, I do...to a point. Perhaps HATED rival is what I'm talking about. I HATED the Mets in the 80s. I hated that Astro Killer Bees period. I would think you would hate the Yanks just on general principles!

[Carter]

Is that Bruno Samartino?

You bet

[mvp 78]

Is that Bruno Samartino?

 

Yup, since he's from the midwest, his avatar should really be Harley Race or Lou Thesz.

[vjcsmoke]

Spanking the Yankees and beating them in a series. There's no sweeter feeling!

 

Pinstripe fans must be in meltdown mode right about now. Haha!

[cp176]

You bet

 

Give me a little Argentina Rocca and we really will be talking good stuff.

[Carter]

Picture it this way:

 

After decades of the Cards winning World Series after World Series and the Cubs being a laughing stock, how would Cubbies fans feel if the Cards start sucking s*** for a while? Wouldn't Cubs fans be able to be more dismissive of Cardinals fan swagger and the belief that STL is the best baseball town? Wouldn't Cubs be more empowered to look down on Cards fans after being s*** on by them for decades and decades?

 

Now picture that x 10 since Sox and Yankees fans commingle on a daily basis.

As an AL guy you get a pass for not knowing that the Cub rivalry thing is a hoax to drum up interest. We were rivals for real until the 40's. Since then the two teams never finished one and two. The very few years the Cubs were good WE sucked. There has been no tension for 7 decades! Our real rivals were The Big Red Machine, Dodgers, and most recently the Astros. A hatred of the Brewers was perculating when they came to town, beat the snot out of us and then paraded around the infield untucking their shirts. But soon they quickly sucked again and the vitriol simmered down.

 

The only hint of a rivalry comes from Card fans driving up to Wrigley and pissing off the local gentry, and visa versa. But that's the fans. These young players don't hate the Cubs...they just want a multi-year contract.

 

To your "sucking s***" point: You guys have been the CREAM of baseball since 2004 but

the beatdown by The Empire goes back to Babe f***ing Ruth days! Don't it?

[Spudboy]

As an AL guy you get a pass for not knowing that the Cub rivalry thing is a hoax to drum up interest. We were rivals for real until the 40's. Since then the two teams never finished one and two. The very few years the Cubs were good WE sucked. There has been no tension for 7 decades! Our real rivals were The Big Red Machine, Dodgers, and most recently the Astros. A hatred of the Brewers was perculating when they came to town, beat the snot out of us and then paraded around the infield untucking their shirts. But soon they quickly sucked again and the vitriol simmered down.

 

The only hint of a rivalry comes from Card fans driving up to Wrigley and pissing off the local gentry, and visa versa. But that's the fans. These young players don't hate the Cubs...they just want a multi-year contract.

 

To your "sucking s***" point: You guys have been the CREAM of baseball since 2004 but

the beatdown by The Empire goes back to Babe f***ing Ruth days! Don't it?

 

I did not know any of this stuff except the Ruth days thing.

[Bellhorn04]

To your "sucking s***" point: You guys have been the CREAM of baseball since 2004 but

the beatdown by The Empire goes back to Babe f***ing Ruth days! Don't it?

 

Well, let's see, between 1918 and 2003 the Yanks won it all 26 times and we won it all 0 times, so yes.

[Carter]

Give me a little Argentina Rocca and we really will be talking good stuff.

 

 

http://ecwfrenchtribute.free.fr/HTLM/Photos/Photos_A/Antonino_Rocca/Antonino_Rocca_-_Antonino_Biasetton_01.jpg

 

Oh yeah! I actually never saw either of them rassle because of territorial issues but I DO know about Argentino Rocco. He was the nimble guy that used to bitch-slap his opponents with his bare feet!

[Carter]

I did not know any of this stuff except the Ruth days thing.

Hey there Spud! No reason you should have known. There's plenty about the AL that I don't know, though I'm heads above the average NL fan. The first baseball book I ever read was the Ted Williams auto-bio,borrowed from my H.S. library. Can you believe that I had never even HEARD of him? The second was "Now wait a minute, Casey", taking me back years in AL history.

 

The first book I ever bought with money was BALL FOUR. (I wish I still had his and Stottlemyer's co-rookie card!)

[cp176]

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Oh yeah! I actually never saw either of them rassle because of territorial issues but I DO know about Argentino Rocco. He was the nimble guy that used to bitch-slap his opponents with his bare feet!

 

oh yeah - he was my main man as a kid growing up!

[Spudboy]

Hey there Spud! No reason you should have known. There's plenty about the AL that I don't know, though I'm heads above the average NL fan. The first baseball book I ever read was the Ted Williams auto-bio,borrowed from my H.S. library. Can you believe that I had never even HEARD of him? The second was "Now wait a minute, Casey", taking me back years in AL history.

 

The first book I ever bought with money was BALL FOUR. (I wish I still had his and Stottlemyer's co-rookie card!)

 

Ball Four is my favorite baseball book. I still have my paperback copy from when it was a big deal.

 

On the cover it is endorsed by Howard Cosell" ..." Puts to route the idea that baseball is the sacred cow and that the only milk that it emits is pure".

 

If it were not for this book I would never have known about beaver shooting!

[cp176]

Ball Four is my favorite baseball book. I still have my paperback copy from when it was a big deal.

 

On the cover it is endorsed by Howard Cosell" ..." Puts to route the idea that baseball is the sacred cow and that the only milk that it emits is pure".

 

If it were not for this book I would never have known about beaver shooting!

 

I just heard a good one from an old timer (tough old timer) from New York down here yesterday. Bouton came from the same town he grew up in. He said he was a weird dude when he was young. He used to get beat up by his buddies on a regular basis. I made the mistake of calling my friend a Yankee fan - He corrected me quickly - doesn't like them - He was a Brooklyn fan!

[Slasher9]

I just heard a good one from an old timer (tough old timer) from New York down here yesterday. Bouton came from the same town he grew up in. He said he was a weird dude when he was young. He used to get beat up by his buddies on a regular basis. I made the mistake of calling my friend a Yankee fan - He corrected me quickly - doesn't like them - He was a Brooklyn fan!

My dad was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. Post west coast move after a few years of the baseball wilderness.... Like many of them he became a Metropolitans fan. At least we have the dislike of the Yankees in common...

[Carter]

Ball Four is my favorite baseball book. I still have my paperback copy from when it was a big deal.

 

On the cover it is endorsed by Howard Cosell" ..." Puts to route the idea that baseball is the sacred cow and that the only milk that it emits is pure".

 

If it were not for this book I would never have known about beaver shooting!

 

LOL! Ah, yes, the beaver shooting! That behavior shocked me (even tho' I tried to look up dresses as a kid like a little perv constantly)

[cp176]

My dad was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. Post west coast move after a few years of the baseball wilderness.... Like many of them he became a Metropolitans fan. At least we have the dislike of the Yankees in common...

 

very cool