2018 Prospect Mega Thread

[moonslav59]

Who has done so poorly in our pen that necessitates Buttrey replacing them?

 

As of right now, these guys are not on the 25 man roster:

 

DL

ERod

Wright

Walden

 

AAA

Pom

Scott

Beeks

Haaley

Cuevas

Jerez

Buttrey

Shepherd

Martin

 

Edited July 20, 2018 by moonslav59

[OH FOY]

40 games last year as a Reliever, both in Portland and Pawtucket, Buttrey had a 4.81 era. This year its 2.25. Is it the Opposition, or new pitch? Too much of a discrepancy for me to think he's the next Kimbrel.

September call up for me, and see how he does.

For me at least, for 9th inning Closers I want to see total domination in Triple AAA, in that role. Buttrey is improving, I guess, but needs more seasoning, before you take on a role like Kimbrel.

Who dominates Major Leaguers.

Edited July 21, 2018 by OH FOY!

[OH FOY]

Who's ever for pitching Salem tonight is going against, one of best in the Carolina League. Wil Crowe. I see they skipped Denyi Reyes start, wonder if he got promoted? Lowell has won 11 in a row.

https://www.milb.com/lowell/news/win-streak-extends-to-11/c-286591692

Edited July 21, 2018 by OH FOY!

[mvp 78]

40 games last year as a Reliever, both in Portland and Pawtucket, Buttrey had a 4.81 era. This year its 2.25. Is it the Opposition, or new pitch? Too much of a discrepancy for me to think he's the next Kimbrel.

September call up for me, and see how he does.

For me at least, for 9th inning Closers I want to see total domination in Triple AAA, in that role. Buttrey is improving, I guess, but needs more seasoning, before you take on a role like Kimbrel.

Who dominates Major Leaguers.

 

The biggest thing about Buttrey was him cutting his walk rate in half. Knowing that he's going to throw strikes, hitters just can't sit back and wait for him to shoot himself in the foot.

[OH FOY]

Houck Pitching now against the best hitting team in the Carolina League, Potomac. Big start. Edited July 23, 2018 by OH FOY!

[OH FOY]

Houck pitched a beauty today. Only run he gave up was because of throwing error on his part. Got stronger as game went on. Game still on Salem leads 3-1 at this point.

 

Houck's final stats today 6 innings, 4 hits, 0 earned runs, ZERO WALKS, 8 K's.

 

This was a good hitting team he faced. He's trending in right Direction. 2 Quality starts in a row against 2 good teams. ERA down to 4.50

Edited July 23, 2018 by OH FOY!

[mvp 78]

Houck pitched a beauty today. Only run he gave up was because of throwing error on his part. Got stronger as game went on. Game still on Salem leads 3-1 at this point.

 

Houck's final stats today 6 innings, 4 hits, 0 earned runs, ZERO WALKS, 8 K's.

 

This was a good hitting team he faced. He's trending in right Direction. 2 Quality starts in a row against 2 good teams. ERA down to 4.50

 

Sox Prospects don't like that he's gone back to mainly using his 2 seamer as the believe it's not a starter's profile. We'll have to see how it goes!

[OH FOY]

Haven't followed Sox Prospects in years. Perfect Game projected him as a Starter like that site better my preference. Box score.

 

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2018_07_23_potafa_salafa_1&t=g_box&sid=milb

Edited July 23, 2018 by OH FOY!

[mvp 78]

Haven't followed Sox Prospects in years. Box score.

 

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2018_07_23_potafa_salafa_1&t=g_box&sid=milb

 

The podcast they do is pretty good. I try not to get to wrapped up in their website.

[Larry Cook]

Houck going back to his college two pitch routine and threw a nice game today,

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Haven't followed Sox Prospects in years. Perfect Game projected him as a Starter like that site better my preference. Box score.

 

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2018_07_23_potafa_salafa_1&t=g_box&sid=milb

 

Soxprospects has turned into a shithole. I only go to Soxprospects to read Eric's thoughts. True, he gets things wrong (don't we all) but it is kind of interesting to read the perspective of someone who actually worked in the Red Sox front office. BTW, Eric does not want the Red Sox to pursue a SP at the trade deadline.

 

The founder of soxprospects, Mike Andrews, is a real scumbag. The only time he posts on the site is when he asks members for donations to help pay for his vacations. I rely on MLB Pipeline to learn about prospects.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/news/prospects/index.jsp

 

I can understand why Eric left SOSH. Someone should invite him to this forum, the best Red Sox forum on the internet!

Edited July 24, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[OH FOY]

When a Pitcher gets stronger as the game goes on, don't matter what 2 Pitches he throws. That's starter material. What idiot in the Sox organization played around with a kid, at this point in his career. Just Drafted last year and lets change his style. Idiots.

[moonslav59]

Soxprospects has turned into a shithole. I only go to Soxprospects to read Eric's thoughts. True, he gets things wrong (don't we all) but it is kind of interesting to read the perspective of someone who actually worked in the Red Sox front office. BTW, Eric does not want the Red Sox to pursue a SP at the trade deadline.

 

The founder of soxprospects, Mike Andrews, is a real scumbag. The only time he posts on the site is when he asks members for donations to help pay for his vacations. I rely on MLB Pipeline to learn about prospects.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/news/prospects/index.jsp

 

I can understand why Eric left SOSH. Someone should invite him to this forum, the best Red Sox forum on the internet!

 

Mike has always responded to my inquiries with detailed and informative answers.

 

I haven't really noticed a drop off in quality, but to each his own.

 

(There is a lot of helpful information on the site.)

[mvp 78]

Soxprospects has turned into a shithole. I only go to Soxprospects to read Eric's thoughts. True, he gets things wrong (don't we all) but it is kind of interesting to read the perspective of someone who actually worked in the Red Sox front office. BTW, Eric does not want the Red Sox to pursue a SP at the trade deadline.

 

The founder of soxprospects, Mike Andrews, is a real scumbag. The only time he posts on the site is when he asks members for donations to help pay for his vacations. I rely on MLB Pipeline to learn about prospects.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/news/prospects/index.jsp

 

I can understand why Eric left SOSH. Someone should invite him to this forum, the best Red Sox forum on the internet!

 

It costs to send people to the games to scout and to run a website... Asking for a donation does not make someone a scumbag.

[mvp 78]

When a Pitcher gets stronger as the game goes on, don't matter what 2 Pitches he throws. That's starter material. What idiot in the Sox organization played around with a kid, at this point in his career. Just Drafted last year and lets change his style. Idiots.

 

Almost all draft picks are played around with when they first start working out with a team. Trying to get a pitcher to adjust his arm slot and develop a 4 seam fastball isn't really anything out of the ordinary.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

It is one thing to ask for donations to help pay for the cost of a website (which isn't overly expensive) it is another thing to ask for donations under the guise of "scouting players," which is really nothing more than a paid vacation. Mike Andrews also lies to soxprospects forum members about this matter and the amount of donations coming in. I know about this because I know an ex-forum member who knew about these things.

 

Andrews also lies each year when he threatens to make soxprospects a paid site if he doesn't receive sufficient donations. In reality, he has no intention to do this. He knows that he can't do this--no one is going to pay money to soxprospects on a monthly basis (a subscription) when they can get information on Red Sox prospects for free on other sites.

 

But as Nietzsche pointed out, to each his own. If you like the guy, good for you. I think he is a pimp.

Edited July 24, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Larry Cook]

Shawaryn threw a really nice game today. 7 innings no runs. Secondary stuff looked really good. Might be time to move him to Pawtucket,

 

Northcutt with his first professional tater today. Should be interesting to see how he develops.

[mvp 78]

@DavidLaurilaQA

 

Trey Ball, a talented two-way player in high school who Red Sox drafted in first round as a pitcher a few years ago, is taking BP in Double-A Portland right now. Has had limited success on mound as a pro.

[Jack Flap]

When people ask for donations and I can't or don't want to contribute, I ignore them.

 

Seems like an odd thing to have a vendetta over.

[mvp 78]

It is one thing to ask for donations to help pay for the cost of a website (which isn't overly expensive) it is another thing to ask for donations under the guise of "scouting players," which is really nothing more than a paid vacation. Mike Andrews also lies to soxprospects forum members about this matter and the amount of donations coming in. I know about this because I know an ex-forum member who knew about these things.

 

Andrews also lies each year when he threatens to make soxprospects a paid site if he doesn't receive sufficient donations. In reality, he has no intention to do this. He knows that he can't do this--no one is going to pay money to soxprospects on a monthly basis (a subscription) when they can get information on Red Sox prospects for free on other sites.

 

But as Nietzsche pointed out, to each his own. If you like the guy, good for you. I think he is a pimp.

 

But they actually go and scout the players that we can't see and do a really good job? It's not like other Sox scouts are putting out a free website talking about arm slot, loft, etc. We rely solely on stats to tell us how a prospect is doing. Their scouting goes above and beyond that since they see the players in person AND utilize advanced stats.

 

If he needs to make the website a paid site, it would be in his right to do it. AND PEOPLE DO CONTRIBUTE MONTHLY TO THEIR PATREON WHICH SUPPORTS THEIR PODCAST. There was a person I was donating to on Patreon who ended up dropping his podcast because it was too time consuming and there weren't enough funds coming in. You realize people need to make money off the product they make right?

 

It's just crazy that people don't appreciate all the hard work that goes into that sight. To complain about an ask for money is pretty ridiculous.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

@DavidLaurilaQA

 

Trey Ball, a talented two-way player in high school who Red Sox drafted in first round as a pitcher a few years ago, is taking BP in Double-A Portland right now. Has had limited success on mound as a pro.

 

Probably waited too long for this -- people were calling for it a few years ago.

[OH FOY]

@DavidLaurilaQA

 

Trey Ball, a talented two-way player in high school who Red Sox drafted in first round as a pitcher a few years ago, is taking BP in Double-A Portland right now. Has had limited success on mound as a pro.

 

Excellent, they should have doe this a long time ago. He was good hitter in HS, nice swing.

[OH FOY]

Dalbec 2-4 with a #24 today, game still on. Chavis hit one today too, #2. Edited July 25, 2018 by OH FOY!

[Fan_since_Boggs]

But they actually go and scout the players that we can't see and do a really good job?

 

Yeah but they aren't professional scouts. They are amateurs who watch a ballgame like a fan does. The only difference is that they write up amateur scouting reports--the fan doesn't.

 

I also don't understand why SOSH asks for money. There are plenty of free forums on the internet, why should members pay? What benefit does SOSH provide? Likewise, you can get all the info on soxprospects elsewhere.

[OH FOY]

Perfect Game is a Scout site. I pay, its information on World Wide Prospects, is unreal. Its run by Professional Scouts, probably because they need the money. Those guys get paid crap.

[mvp 78]

Yeah but they aren't professional scouts. They are amateurs who watch a ballgame like a fan does. The only difference is that they write up amateur scouting reports--the fan doesn't.

 

I also don't understand why SOSH asks for money. There are plenty of free forums on the internet, why should members pay? What benefit does SOSH provide? Likewise, you can get all the info on soxprospects elsewhere.

 

They are trained scouts. They may be amateurs, but they are far more knowledgeable than any of us on here.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

They are trained scouts. They may be amateurs, but they are far more knowledgeable than any of us on here.

 

As far as I know, the guys on soxprospects aren't trained professional scouts--they are fans on an internet board, just like us here. They call themselves scouts but that doesn't mean they are real professional scouts. In contrast, I have heard that Perfect Game is run by real professional scouts. There is a football site too, a paid site, forgot the name now, that also has reports and articles from professional scouts.

 

By the way, MVP 78, I plan to take a trip to spring training in Florida next year to watch a few Red Sox youngsters. Would you donate to my trip? I'll even write up an amateur scouting report on what I see. By the way, I only fly first class. LOL. Make check payable to Fan_since_Boggs.

Edited July 25, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[mvp 78]

As far as I know, the guys on soxprospects aren't trained professional scouts--they are fans on an internet board, just like us here. They call themselves scouts but that doesn't mean they are real professional scouts. In contrast, I have heard that Perfect Game is run by real professional scouts. There is a football site too, a paid site, forgot the name now, that also has reports and articles from professional scouts.

 

By the way, MVP 78, I plan to take a trip to spring training in Florida next year to watch a few Red Sox youngsters. Would you donate to my trip? I'll even write up an amateur scouting report on what I see. By the way, I only fly first class. LOL. Make check payable to Fan_since_Boggs.

 

No, but I'd buy you a beer if I saw you there.

[Station 13]

No, but I'd buy you a beer if I saw you there.

 

Make sure it's something cheap.

[moonslav59]

They are trained scouts. They may be amateurs, but they are far more knowledgeable than any of us on here.

 

This is what they have written about themselves on their site:

 

http://soxprospects.com/about.htm

"SoxProspects.com was launched on September 20, 2003. The site was founded by Mike Andrews, a self-proclaimed baseball analyst and local Bostonian. Mike has been following the Red Sox farm system in depth since 1998. The site has a staff of over 20 volunteers, including writers, editors, content managers, scouts, and moderators. We get between 10 million and of 15 million page views per year. SoxProspects, LLC owns SoxProspects.com and all of its content."

 

Ian Cundall - Director of Scouting

Ian joined the scouting department in October 2010. He regularly scouts games at all affiliates. He oversees our scouting reports and authors scouting features based on his first-hand observations and interactions with professional scouts.

E-mail: icundall@soxprospects.com

 

Chaz Fiorino - Assistant Director of Scouting

Chaz joined the staff in January 2014. He is a graduate of the MLB Scout Development Program.

 

Nick Rabasco - Scout & Staff Writer

A former college baseball player, Nick joined the staff in November 2014.