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In order of preference, I'd go:

 

Kendrick, Elias, Owens, Johnson, Workman, Kelly

 

I really like Kelly out of the pen. No reason to move him around.

 

Depending on Johnson's emotional health, I'd put him ahead of Owens.

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People are speculating that it's a great sign that Price is heading back to ST, rather than going straight to Andrews' office in Pensacola or to MGH. We'll see...
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People are speculating that it's a great sign that Price is heading back to ST, rather than going straight to Andrews' office in Pensacola or to MGH. We'll see...

 

Apparently, he says he's going to be okay.

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Regardless of David Price's plight, the Red Sox should probably add to the starter-depth dog pile that currently includes Kyle Kendrick, Brian Johnson, Roenis Elias and Henry Owens. Spreading the risk across eight sub-starters is probably wiser than spreading the risk across only those four.

 

This week Seattle GM Jerry Dipoto made his 40th trade to acquire more rotation depth in 23-year-old righthander Chase De Jong, the 2016 Texas League Pitcher of the Year. De Jong joins Chris Heston, Rob Whalen, Dillon Overton and Max Povse as rotation depth acquired this offseason to complement Ariel Miranda, Cody Martin and Andrew Moore. I think of Miranda as a poor man's Eduardo Rodriguez or a rich man's Roenis Elias. Like Rodriguez, Miranda was a southpaw dealt by the Baltimore Orioles at a trade deadline. Like Elias, Miranda is a 28-year-old Cuban lefthander. Miranda finished the 2016 season in the Seattle rotation with an ERA of 3.54 in 11 appearances, including 10 starts, and has looked strong in two Spring Training starts. The lefty is likely to be the first option if a member of Seattle's five-man rotation falters.

 

Which could happen. Felix Hernandez, James Paxton, Hisashi Iwakuma, Drew Smyly and Yovani Gallardo come with varying degrees of injury concerns. A year ago Seattle traded for two American League East starters -- Wade Miley and Nate Karns -- with disappointing results. Nonplussed, this offseason the Mariners traded for two more AL East starters -- Smyly and Gallardo -- with hopes of better results.

 

I apologize for going off on a tangent.

 

After writing the post above I read this Seattle Times piece quoting the Mariner GM about the new acquisition, Chase De Jong:

 

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/after-the-initial-shock-of-being-traded-right-hander-chase-de-jong-is-excited-to-join-the-mariners/

 

Even if Price can pitch this year we will still need a decent 7th SP. Elias might do, but Johnson and Owens are simply not good enough. Workman, in his small level of experience, has an ERA of about 5, which isn't too bad for a #7. At least he has had some success, unlike Owens. True, he hasn't pitched since 2014 in the majors, but I would like to give him a shot at #7 (or 6 if Price can't pitch) before any of the other candidates. We will still need one more IMO; I agree with Harmony.

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What's the diagnosis? No word to this point. Is it a bone spur, a partial tear, bursitis, bone bruise? Without a diagnosis

 

Who cares? If what Farrell said is true I could not care less what the diagnosis is. However....the Red Sox are generally not particularly forthcoming or honest (or competent) in dealing with these things. Whatever they are calling it, I want to see him pitch effectively before I believe he is over this.

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What's the diagnosis? No word to this point. Is it a bone spur, a partial tear, bursitis, bone bruise? Without a diagnosis

 

Don't act so disappointed.

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Regardless of David Price's plight, the Red Sox should probably add to the starter-depth dog pile that currently includes Kyle Kendrick, Brian Johnson, Roenis Elias and Henry Owens. Spreading the risk across eight sub-starters is probably wiser than spreading the risk across only those four.

 

This I agree with. We need more depth.

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There have been some pitchers who go to see him more for peace of mind than anything else. Beckett comes to mind.

 

I would take Buchholz back even if Price is 100% healthy.

Is this the same Fr.Andrews that Sox players have been seeing since Joe Cronin was the manager? Price is alrady IN Ft Mayers. The home of more orthopedic surgeaons than octogenerions. I'll bet Dr. Kagan wouldn't have to ask Price to take off his shirt!
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Is this the same Fr.Andrews that Sox players have been seeing since Joe Cronin was the manager? Price is alrady IN Ft Mayers. The home of more orthopedic surgeaons than octogenerions. I'll bet Dr. Kagan wouldn't have to ask Price to take off his shirt!

 

It's far too early to know, but Abraham is speculating that Price might be ready to pitch in regular season the 3rd time through the rotation.

 

That would be awesome.

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I wish David Price a speedy recovery but I'm trying to distinguish today's news from this Red Sox news of last March:

 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2016/03/22/red-sox-reliever-carson-smith-get-more-tests-forearm/9Brp2oFNmaX3T2PoNhsXHM/story.html

 

But again I hope the issue is minor and that Price performs well throughout the remaining years of his Red Sox contract.

 

This news is reported many times over a baseball season, sometimes it's nothing and sometimes it's a forewarning of TJ surgery. I will look to the positive. Again why post this its obnoxious.

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This news is reported many times over a baseball season, sometimes it's nothing and sometimes it's a forewarning of TJ surgery. I will look to the positive. Again why post this its obnoxious.

Today's news was good news indeed.

 

Nevertheless I would stop short of calling it "tremendous" news, that "it's safe to say the team avoided disaster" or to state definitively that "the Big Three remains intact":

 

http://www.overthemonster.com/2017/3/3/14808892/david-price-injury-no-surgery-exhale

 

... although I hope all those assertions prove to be true.

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Jacko is an MD.

 

I value his insight.

 

His comment is valid.

 

That is all.

 

While the diagnosis is of some interest here, its really not all that important given the circumstances-assuming we are not being given fake news by the Red Sox. What if the diagnosis was a strain or a sprain-but it takes four months to heal and recurs later on? Assuming what we have been told is correct its not likely a tear of the UCL. What if its a bone spur and they are going to see how it responds to conservative treatment, and it does great? Or if it requires surgery later on? My point is that while the specific diagnosis is of some interest here, its really not all that important. What IS important is how long it takes for Price to return to being Price, regardless of the diagnosis.

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I don't understand the panic. Even IF we lose Price for the entire year, we still have one of the best rotations in the league to go with our league leading offense from last year. Sure, we won't have Ortiz. But we outscored the next best AL offense by over 100 runs.
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I'm more concerned it's going to be one of thos nagging things that lingers all spring causing him to be ineffective, then about May they decide to "shut him down for a while", then about July we're told he needs TJ surgery.
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I thought I had read that every spring his elbow flares up at the beginning of Camp and then calms down. Hopefully, it doesn't flare up again until next year.
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I'm just scratching my head, that's all. He had terrible elbow pain, a non normal MRI and now just needs 10 days rest? I want the diagnosis. If it's a bursitis or a bone bruise, then you're out of the woods for the most part. If the UCL lit up at all or if the flexor mass was involved, then you're still in the weeds.
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It's far too early to know, but Abraham is speculating that Price might be ready to pitch in regular season the 3rd time through the rotation.

 

That would be awesome.

 

That will most likely happen. Stay behind in FLA. I think throw more. He will build more strength in his arm. Go on a throwing program. It will be step by step. Flat ground, mound, throwing BP, simulated game, maybe rehab assignment if it can be worked out. I think mid April sounds like a plan.

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I'm more concerned it's going to be one of thos nagging things that lingers all spring causing him to be ineffective, then about May they decide to "shut him down for a while", then about July we're told he needs TJ surgery.

 

I want it to be a positive outcome for him and us of course, but I think that there is a good chance that what you have said might happen.

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