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[southpaw777]

C'mon... everyone who saw him throw a ball knew he was at risk. I'm certainly no medical person nor am I a scout but the first time I saw him throw I said. "OMG! This guy's a walking Tommy John case!".

Knowing he's at risk isn't the same thing as knowing he's going to be injured. He pitched ok last year and they had no reason to know his problem was going to manifest itself this year. They hoped for the best and got the worst.

 

Or maybe knowing that he has 5 years of control they figure theyll pay him the minimum and still have him for another three or four years with a stronger arm and cheap $$.

I mean, im sure they hoped he would be ok and figured into this years plans...But he has 5 years of control. FA in 2021. They probably knew he was a big risk for TJS, like most did.

Edited May 24, 2016 by southpaw777

[S5Dewey]

Or maybe knowing that he has 5 years of control they figure theyll pay him the minimum and still have him for another three or four years with a stronger arm and cheap $$.

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That would work. It worked with John Lackey.

[Slasher9]

i wonder if the FO was smart enough to get the insurance on Smith?

[Kimmi]

I really liked this trade for the Sox. It stinks that Smith won't be able to contribute this year, but as others mentioned, the Sox still have several years of control on him.

 

The pen has been holding its own without Smith, so I don't see adding a reliever as a dire need right now. Once Rodriguez is healthy, it sounds like one of the starters will be moved to the pen. After Kelly's last start, I can't imagine that it would be him unless he falters again. Nor would I think it would be Wright.

[Jasonbay44]

I really liked this trade for the Sox. It stinks that Smith won't be able to contribute this year, but as others mentioned, the Sox still have several years of control on him.

 

The pen has been holding its own without Smith, so I don't see adding a reliever as a dire need right now. Once Rodriguez is healthy, it sounds like one of the starters will be moved to the pen. After Kelly's last start, I can't imagine that it would be him unless he falters again. Nor would I think it would be Wright.

Once E-Rod is back, it has to be Buchholz who gets the boot from he rotation, but I don't know if bullpen is the route they'll go, a fake injury DL stint or being DFA both could also be options.

[Kimmi]

Once E-Rod is back, it has to be Buchholz who gets the boot from he rotation, but I don't know if bullpen is the route they'll go, a fake injury DL stint or being DFA both could also be options.

 

I would agree that Buchholz should be the one to get the boot from the rotation, as of now.

 

It just sounded like one of the starters would go to the BP, and I don't think Clay is suited for that role.

[Jasonbay44]

I would agree that Buchholz should be the one to get the boot from the rotation, as of now.

 

It just sounded like one of the starters would go to the BP, and I don't think Clay is suited for that role.

 

I agree, I don't see Buchholz in the bullpen working, which is why I think he'll get a "fake" injury DL stint. They probably don't want to DFA him because they'll likely end up eating his salary and don't have a whole lot of SP depth to begin with, so a DL stint where he can work one some things and maybe figure it out and turn around his season would make most sense IMO.

[Kimmi]

I agree, I don't see Buchholz in the bullpen working, which is why I think he'll get a "fake" injury DL stint. They probably don't want to DFA him because they'll likely end up eating his salary and don't have a whole lot of SP depth to begin with, so a DL stint where he can work one some things and maybe figure it out and turn around his season would make most sense IMO.

 

I would not be the least bit surprised if that is what happened.

[a700hitter]

There is no need for a phantom DL for Buch. He will get a real injury and he will be done for the season.

[willy mo pop up]

Carson Smith I had a funny feeling when we made that trade . Here's to 2018 hope he can make it back .

[willy mo pop up]

We should have grabbed Lincecm for the cheap to the bullpen .

[User Name]

Lincecum did not want to be a reliever. He took the Angels' offer because they offered him a rotation spot.

[Dojji]

I really liked this trade for the Sox. It stinks that Smith won't be able to contribute this year, but as others mentioned, the Sox still have several years of control on him.

 

The pen has been holding its own without Smith, so I don't see adding a reliever as a dire need right now. Once Rodriguez is healthy, it sounds like one of the starters will be moved to the pen. After Kelly's last start, I can't imagine that it would be him unless he falters again. Nor would I think it would be Wright.

 

Wright is still your top starter statistically. You don't move a guy who's your best pitcher so far this year to the bullpen. The rotation cannot spare him until and unless he starts to falter and other people start playing up to their ability.

 

If we got by merit, the guy moving to the pen will be Clay Buchholz.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Dojji

[southpaw777]

What Im enjoying watching is Barnes taking over what was to be Smiths role in the pen. Hes hitting 98+ on the gun and starting to really fall into the role of a reliever. Seems like the transition from Starter to pen has happened for him. Last year when he was pretty much new to the pen, he was still throwing around 94. Now he's firing at almost 100 MPH.

If Barnes cntinues to step up, he will be a big factor in that bullpen this year. Also allowing the team to keep everyones arm properly rested throughout the year.

[southpaw777]

Just wondering if i can change the name of this thread to just DL/injury news? Or maybe YOTN can. Seems it may be better as a catch all for the disabled list or injuriy news....

[Slasher9]

What Im enjoying watching is Barnes taking over what was to be Smiths role in the pen. Hes hitting 98+ on the gun and starting to really fall into the role of a reliever. Seems like the transition from Starter to pen has happened for him. Last year when he was pretty much new to the pen, he was still throwing around 94. Now he's firing at almost 100 MPH.

If Barnes cntinues to step up, he will be a big factor in that bullpen this year. Also allowing the team to keep everyones arm properly rested throughout the year.

 

yeah man. Barnes seems like a perfect replacement for Carson. he was hitting 99 on the gun last night.

[FredLynn]

Once E-Rod is back, it has to be Buchholz who gets the boot from he rotation, but I don't know if bullpen is the route they'll go, a fake injury DL stint or being DFA both could also be options.

 

I don't think ERod will be back any time soon. While he pitched decently last night, allowing just one run, his velocity topped out at 92-in the first inning-and ranged from 87-92. I don't think he will be effective at the ML level at that velocity. Last year he was closer to 94. For now we are stuck with Buchholz.

[User Name]

I'm seeing the opposite. The endurance is there, but he's still building arm strength and should be a start or two away from rejoining the rotation.

[FredLynn]

I'm seeing the opposite. The endurance is there, but he's still building arm strength and should be a start or two away from rejoining the rotation.

 

Its possible, but unlikely in my opinion. Not that I wouldn't love to see him back, but before he comes back he needs to be at 93-94. The worst thing to do is to bring him back too early. The team is winning and in first place; we can wait until he is really ready.

[User Name]

I'm not the one spouting that opinion. It's what the media and Farrell have said.

[Dojji]

I agree with Fred in principle. There's more to lose than there is to gain in calling Eddie up too quickly. Our place in the division standings gives us the luxury of time, to make sure we get this kid right. Be a shame not to use it, especially if the weakened knee might do what a weak knee sometimes does, and makes him overstress some other part of his body (shoulder or elbow) to compensate.

[Kimmi]

Wright is still your top starter statistically. You don't move a guy who's your best pitcher so far this year to the bullpen. The rotation cannot spare him until and unless he starts to falter and other people start playing up to their ability.

 

If we got by merit, the guy moving to the pen will be Clay Buchholz.

 

I do not disagree with any of this.

 

I don't see the Sox putting Clay in the pen, however. IMO, if Clay stinks again in his next outing and Rodriguez shows he's ready to be called up, Clay will be DL'd. If Clay pitches well, Rodriguez will stay in AAA a little longer.

[cp176]

i doubt seriously that buchholz will ever go to the pen. It is possible for sure that rodriguez stays in Pawtucket a little longer. They will go to a 6 man rotation before buck goes to the pen. Someone I suspect will get injured (wink wink) if they decide to stick with a 5 man.

[mvp 78]

Clay isn't going to the pen. If he can't start, he's done.

[Spudboy]

I don't think Kelly will be going to the pen , either.

 

The Sox see him as a starter, not a reliever.

[Dojji]

Well one of those two bastards is going into the pen. We're not going to go to a 6 man rotation just for the pleasure of having the worst of those two remain in the rotation.

[Jasonbay44]

I think a DL stint, DFA or having one of them murdered could also be an option.

[southpaw777]

If Buch is still the same, which it very well looks that way, then im sure one way or the other he will go on the DL or something. This depends on if Kelly still looks good, and if Erod is good.

Price, Wright, and Porcello are going nowhere right now.

[cp176]

Well one of those two bastards is going into the pen. We're not going to go to a 6 man rotation just for the pleasure of having the worst of those two remain in the rotation.

 

Tonight is a big night for bastard number 1. The Buckster needs to get it done or he is going back into hibernation until the next option is activated.

[Bellhorn04]

Tonight is a big night for bastard number 1. The Buckster needs to get it done or he is going back into hibernation until the next option is activated.

 

Bastard Number 1, I like it.