Hot Stove 2013-2014

[Thunder]

Cruz sucks

 

Yes, but he loves Fenway.

[redsoxrules]

Angels amd Trout discussing a 6 year deal worth 150. I figured if he signed an extension it would be for 30 a year. I'll be surprised if he takes that deal. Allthough that would make him a free agent again at 28

[rjortiz]

Yes, but he loves Fenway.

 

A lot of hitters love Fenway, that doesn't make him more than a 1/1.5 WAR DH.

[redsoxrules]

I'm not a big fan of banning the home plate collision as the catcher is still allowed to block the plate with the ball.

If you're going to ban home plate collision, ban the catcher blocking the plate too.

[Youk Of The Nation]

What is the point of banning home plate collisions unless the catcher is blocking the plate with the ball? Isn't that when they happen anyways?

[Spudboy]

I don't like the collision rule change either. I don't like changes that alter the character of the game. I did not even know that this was an issue.

 

I wonder if there is a stat that says how many home plate "collisions" happen per game, per season?

 

Are so many players being concussed and otherwise injured by this exciting play? Why pussify the game this way?

[redsoxrules]

I'd like to see stats about this too because I rarely see a catcher being injured from a home plate collision.

[jacksonianmarch]

Carlos Santana and Buster Posey were lost in recent years due to collisions. Nobody would give a s*** if Jose lobaton or Francisco Cervelli got injured. But both those guys are the center of their offense.

[Northern Star]

I would cheer if Cervelli got injured.

 

Johan Santana barely topping 80 mph. Time to hang them up. Mets didn't get nearly enough value from that contract (a familiar refrain around MLB nowadays.

[redsoxrules]

Carlos Santana and Buster Posey were lost in recent years due to collisions. Nobody would give a s*** if Jose lobaton or Francisco Cervelli got injured. But both those guys are the center of their offense.

 

That's not a lot of injuries considering how many games are played & catchers playing them.

[Palodios]

Johan to the Orioles. Apparently he was throwing in the low 80's. Meh.

[Spitball]

I'd like to see stats about this too because I rarely see a catcher being injured from a home plate collision.

 

I don't have a statistic, but plenty of catchers have been injured in home plate collisions. Some of these are pretty scary.

 

[Spitball]

This is from an August 2013 Hardball Times article:

 

Obviously plenty of non-catchers have had concussions too, but the rate at which catchers are suffering brain injuries this season is startling. At any given time there are somewhere between 60 and 75 catchers on MLB rosters and within the past 30 days around 15 percent of them have been on the disabled list specifically designed for concussions. MLB has made major strides in terms of concussion awareness and treatment in general, but it’s time to take a long look at the physical toll catching takes on someone’s brain before careers and lives are ruined.

[redsoxrules]

^^^ Are these related to collisions only?

A lot of catchers get concussions from getting foul tips hit their mask.

[Palodios]

Santana -> Braves. Glad to see him avoid the AL East.

[seabeachfred]

Santana -> Braves. Glad to see him avoid the AL East.

 

When three Braves pitchers went down with assorted arm injuries it seemed almost automatic that Santana would head for the NL League. However, I cannot help believing that he did so to build up his record and stats so he can go get a big contract next season. Playing in the much weaker league could help him in that regard and didn't on scout and GM insist that Santana simply did not want to pitch in the American League this season.

[mvp 78]

@KenTremendous: Scott Boras on guys who declined $14.1 million 1-yr deals: "This system has placed them not in free agency, but it's placed them in a jail."

 

Truer words have never been spoken.

[Spudboy]

Did Boras really say those words???

[redsoxrules]

Iggy to miss most of the season due to shin injury. Drew might have a new home now

[seabeachfred]

Iggy to miss most of the season due to shin injury. Drew might have a new home now

 

Sorry for Iggy but let's certainly hope so.

[Spitball]

^^^ Are these related to collisions only?

A lot of catchers get concussions from getting foul tips hit their mask.

 

I suppose some concussions have resulted from foul tips, but home plate collisions involve much more impact.

 

•In an honest, open interview with ESPN's Jayson Stark, Cardinals manager Mike Matheny says he regrets not doing more to publicize the dangers of concussions as a player. Concussions ended his career as a big league backstop. "I did a very poor job, at the end of my career, of really telling people how weird and how tough the circumstances were for me after getting that last concussion, how that impacted my life," Matheny said. He's since been one of baseball's loudest voices in arguing for a total ban of home-plate collisions, Stark writes.

[mvp 78]

I suppose some concussions have resulted from foul tips, but home plate collisions involve much more impact.

 

I disagree. Homeplate collisions are dumb, but foul tips probably cause far more concussions.

 

http://grantland.com/features/mlb-catcher-concussions-home-plate-collisions-rule/

[Navafan29]

Is Stephen Drew starting his own team or what, because he is taking forever to choose one.

[seabeachfred]

Is Stephen Drew starting his own team or what, because he is taking forever to choose one.

 

Just read that the Tigers aren't interested in him either. Looks like he really screwed himself up royally this year. I just hope Farrell is over his love for the guy.

[BSN07]

GM Dave Dombrowski says the Tigers will not pursue free agent shortstop Stephen Drew, the Detroit News' Lynn Henning reports. Dombrowski says the Tigers will go with "internal candidates" to replace the injured Jose Iglesias at shortstop

 

No Boras bail out there.

 

That quote from Boras about the pick being a jail sentence is a pretty fair statement of the situation imo tho. Yes in hindsight he should have accepted the QO, but I can totally see him and Boras believeing and rightfully so he would be able to land a multi year deal on the open market. It was Him and Peralta at the top of the SS market. It could be argued Drew is the better player since Peralta is a ? to stick at SS much longer and you didn't know what his bat was gonna look like after he was off his vitamin program.

 

Drew has just hit the perfect storm of teams who need a SS aren't giving up their picks and the ones that don't care about the pick(or already gave up a 1st rounder) seemingly don't need a SS.

[Palodios]

Drew has just hit the perfect storm of teams who need a SS aren't giving up their picks and the ones that don't care about the pick(or already gave up a 1st rounder) seemingly don't need a SS.

 

NYY and NYM both seem to be good fits -- they need a SS, have the money, and only lose 3rd picks -- but even that doesn't seem to be going Drew's way. At some point, he should just go back to the Red Sox offering to be a utility player for 5 million, because that's the best he'll get at this point.

[Spudboy]

Of course if Bogarts does not eclipse the Mendoza line soon this could all change.

[Bellhorn04]

Drew will get signed by somebody, even if it's not until after the draft in June, when there will be no draft pick given up to sign him.

[a700hitter]

Of course if Bogarts does not eclipse the Mendoza line soon this could all change.

He has not been having good ABs.

[Spudboy]

I've just seen three games on tv.

 

How much slack will this kid be given until another ss will take his place in the starting 9?

 

Just about everyone see him as a can't miss prospect. No one has said much about his actually ability recently. Just a bunch of crap about his poise and maturity.

 

What if he is not ready for a full time diet of major league pitching? He needs to get on base. His ability at short does not justify keeping in the everyday line up unless he does.