2014 Roster Projections

[iortiz]

Well, Drew v Iggy in the 2013 playoffs is confusing their ABILITY to hit with whether they actually hit or not ... Drew's ability far, FAR outstrips Iglesias offensively, well more than the defensive gap. Alas, he had a rough postseason. At the same time, Iglesias pulled a .231/.286/.231 in the postseason while Drew did .111/.140/.204. Both lines were pretty ghastly, certainly close enough to say both sucked it pretty hard at the plate.

 

Bingo!.

 

This is why I do not see D over I at 2013 PO since I still see a better glove in Iggy's, AND Still Iggy's line is better LOL!.

Edited January 30, 2014 by iortiz

[iortiz]

Again, do you need a shovel so you can dig yourself a deeper hole iortiz? That is exactly what you're saying.

 

nope, that is exactly what YOU are doing in every thread.

Edited January 30, 2014 by iortiz

[sk7326]

Bingo!.

 

This is why I do not see D over I at 2013 PO since I still see a better glove in Iggy's, AND Still Iggy's line is better LOL!.

 

Well the small sample size alert siren comes out for this. I noted both sucked pretty hard last October. But Drew IS a much better offensive player than Iglesias, and as such I'd rather have had him at SS. That neither he nor Iglesias did well in a 2.5 week sample of games (in Drew's case) says more or less nothing about the players as a whole.

[User Name]

He's not very good at the whole "common sense" thing. Don't waste your typing fingers.

[iortiz]

Well the small sample size alert siren comes out for this. I noted both sucked pretty hard last October. But Drew IS a much better offensive player than Iglesias, and as such I'd rather have had him at SS. That neither he nor Iglesias did well in a 2.5 week sample of games (in Drew's case) says more or less nothing about the players as a whole.

 

Oh yeah, and I do agree with you. Drew is a better O player all the way, unless Iggy proves us wrong in the near future. But remember that my point was in a retrospective way rather than moving forward.

Edited January 30, 2014 by iortiz

[iortiz]

He's not very good at the whole "common sense" thing. Don't waste your typing fingers.

 

Mind your own business, didn't you say that, psycho?

[SoxSport]

Terrific hitter in his Houston prime. St Louis he had a fascinating revival, and he played a principal role in what probably goes down as the current game which is used as "the greatest game since ____". (the Texas-Saint Louis Game 6)

 

Yeah--his prime years were in Houston, and he had a couple of good years in St Louis. He had a disastrous year in NY, but that didn't prevent one of those Yankee ass-kissers at MLB network last night from saying he played for "Houston and the Yankees."

[sk7326]

Keith Law's Red Sox farm report: http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10363490/american-league-east-top-10-prospects-team-2014-mlb

 

Org Top 10

1. Bogaerts

2. Owens

3. Bradley

4. Cecchini

5. Swihart

6. Betts

7. Barnes

8. Webster

9. Ranaudo

10. Ball

 

Farm system overview

 

Because what the world wanted to hear was that the defending World Series champs have one of the game's best and deepest systems, right? The Red Sox have drafted exceedingly well the past few years, loading the system with up-the-middle position-player talent, along with a handful of starters boasting mid-rotation upside.

 

Xander Bogaerts showed flashes in October of why he's a potential monster, with a mature approach at the plate and strong, quick wrists. Henry Owens' fastball and breaking ball were both much better in 2013 than in 2012, without giving up any of the deception that made him hard to hit before last season.

 

The No. 11 prospect in the system, had I continued, is premium defensive catcher Christian Vazquez, who isn't a great offensive prospect but makes so much contact that he'll likely end up an average to above-average regular overall. Lefty Brian Johnson still could be a No. 4 or 5 starter, and showed a little extra velocity in instructional league.

 

Boston took a few project guys in the 2013 draft after first-rounder Trey Ball, including fallen idol Jon Denney, a catcher who came into the spring as a surefire first-rounder but struggled badly down the stretch as he lost strength and energy; and Teddy Stankiewicz, an excellent athlete who can hit 94-95 mph with good command, thanks to a repeatable delivery. And they signed 16-year-old Dominican third baseman Rafael Devers, a left-handed hitter with big-time power and a very good swing, for $1.5 million in August.

 

2014 impact

 

Bogaerts should be their every-day shortstop; I'm not convinced there's a $6 million gap between what he'll provide and what Stephen Drew would provide, let alone a $12 million one. Jackie Bradley Jr. appears on track to be the Opening Day center fielder. Allen Webster and Anthony Ranaudo should get starts whenever Boston needs to fill in for someone in the major league rotation. Webster needs to show he can command his fastball, especially in the lower half, while Ranaudo was all over the place both times I saw him last year, and has to iron out some timing issues around his landing.

 

The fallen

 

Their 2012 first-rounder, Deven Marrero, slugged .317 on the year across two levels, and there's not a lot you can do to paper over that. He can still play excellent defense at short, and was 27-for-29 on stolen base attempts despite a hamstring pull early in the season, but right now he looks like a No. 8 or 9 hitter in the big leagues whom pitchers might blow away with better velocity.

 

Sleeper

 

Last year's sleeper, Manuel Margot, would be No. 12 in the system now, and could make the leap next year with a full season in low Class A. He's an above-average defender in center who can run and throw and takes good at-bats for someone who won't turn 20 until September.

[rjortiz]

I'm saying some times no matter what parents do their kids turn out rotten. That's what happened with Jerry's son Jared. Now if you have some proof that Remy and his wife were lousy parents and were responsible for their son's downfall please enlighten me. If you don't I'd like to give Jerry and his wife the benefit of the doubt instead of hurling what may be false and scurrilous accusations against them.

 

Remy - 0/3 at raising children. Should not be allowed to harm a 4th.

[seabeachfred]

Remy - 0/3 at raising children. Should not be allowed to harm a 4th.

 

0 for 3??? Then I take it you can tell me about his other two children and where they strayed.....if, in fact, they did. Let me know. If that turns out to be true I will issue a mea culpa. If not I expect you to stand down.

[rjortiz]

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/it-would-appear-jerry-remys-daughter-broke-into-her-exs-house-and-went-ham-on-a-couple-cops-last-week/

[rjortiz]

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2010/08/jordan_remy_busted_indecent_assault_rap

 

Remy - 0/3 at raising children. Should not be allowed to harm a 4th.

[Youk Of The Nation]

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2010/08/jordan_remy_busted_indecent_assault_rap

 

Remy - 0/3 at raising children. Should not be allowed to harm a 4th.

 

 

We get the point. Parents are responsible for every single act their children commit. As we all know, no child raised by a drug addict, murderer, or neglectful parent has ever done anything positive, so naturally the reverse must be true as well. But by all means, continue to post the same single-sentence denouncement of Remy's parenting skills, based on your extensive knowledge of the situation.

[rjortiz]

We get the point. Parents are responsible for every single act their children commit. As we all know, no child raised by a drug addict, murderer, or neglectful parent has ever done anything positive, so naturally the reverse must be true as well. But by all means, continue to post the same single-sentence denouncement of Remy's parenting skills, based on your extensive knowledge of the situation.

 

Yeah, because that's exactly what I was claiming. Put words in someone else's mouth. I wrote that parents play a significant role in the lives of their children. I didn't write, "Parents are responsible for every single act their children commit."

 

I don't know everything about the situation, but what we do know is that Remy has three children. All three of them have been arrested. It appears they have trouble accepting the word "no" for an answer, and that they have severe self-control and anger problems. I think it's entirely fair to question Remy's parental skills.

[a700hitter]

Yeah, because that's exactly what I was claiming. Put words in someone else's mouth. I wrote that parents play a significant role in the lives of their children. I didn't write, "Parents are responsible for every single act their children commit."

 

I don't know everything about the situation, but what we do know is that Remy has three children. All three of them have been arrested. It appears they have trouble accepting the word "no" for an answer, and that they have severe self-control and anger problems. I think it's entirely fair to question Remy's parental skills.

There's a huge difference between speculation and condemnation. The court will sort it all out and determine what would be in the best interests of the child.

[a700hitter]

Tomorrow is February 1st (2 weeks before pitchers and catchers report) and Drew is still homeless. This has gone much longer than I had expected. As far as I have read, the Red Sox have never made him an offer but have asked him to give them the opportunity to match or exceed any offer. Time is running out on that strategy. Any tram that makes Drew an offer at this juncture will expect him to sign on the spot.

[rjortiz]

There's a huge difference between speculation and condemnation. The court will sort it all out and determine what would be in the best interests of the child.

 

I think he's getting a pass from people on this board, because he works for the Red Sox.

[Bellhorn04]

I think he's getting a pass from people on this board, because he works for the Red Sox.

 

Personally I have far too little information to render an opinion. I assume that also applies to others here.

[mvp 78]

I think he's getting a pass from people on this board, because he works for the Red Sox.

 

I think you are making a judgement on how Remy's parenting skills are based on the actions of his ADULT children. We're not talking teenagers like Andy Reid's kid. We're talking grown ass individuals who are no longer under the care of their parents. These people weren't in and out of juvy. They are just failed adults, which has little bearing on how they were raised as kids.

 

I've spent more of my life outside of my parents home at this point in my life. If I go out and kill someone tomorrow, it's not because of how I was raised, it's because when I'm on my own I'm a s***** person.

[a700hitter]

I think he's getting a pass from people on this board, because he works for the Red Sox.

Unless I had reliable information about the causal effect between parenting and criminal behavior, I wouldn't pass judgment on any parent. There is much more in the way of a causal link between crime by kids with no parents or one parent, and even then I would not pass judgment in a particular case without all the facts. The law does not hold a parent liable for an adult child's torts or crimes, and when the child is a minor the parent is not liable for their bad acts unless there is very specific legislation that would withstand scrutiny. Those laws usually involve the necessary showing of some contributing action by the parent. There is good reasoning that underpins that aspect of our judicial system. Control of offspring is an illusion. You can guide your kids, but from an early age it becomes evident that you can't control them. That is why parents are not liable for their kids bad acts. Can a parent scar or ruin a child? Yes, but we don't know the facts of this case. I am not cutting RemDawg slack because he is the Sox announcer. I wouldn't condemn any parent in a case like this.

[rjortiz]

I think you are making a judgement on how Remy's parenting skills are based on the actions of his ADULT children. We're not talking teenagers like Andy Reid's kid. We're talking grown ass individuals who are no longer under the care of their parents. These people weren't in and out of juvy. They are just failed adults, which has little bearing on how they were raised as kids.

 

I've spent more of my life outside of my parents home at this point in my life. If I go out and kill someone tomorrow, it's not because of how I was raised, it's because when I'm on my own I'm a s***** person.

 

Unless I had reliable information about the causal effect between parenting and criminal behavior, I wouldn't pass judgment on any parent. There is much more in the way of a causal link between crime by kids with no parents or one parent, and even then I would not pass judgment in a particular case without all the facts. The law does not hold a parent liable for an adult child's torts or crimes, and when the child is a minor the parent is not liable for their bad acts unless there is very specific legislation that would withstand scrutiny. Those laws usually involve the necessary showing of some contributing action by the parent. There is good reasoning that underpins that aspect of our judicial system. Control of offspring is an illusion. You can guide your kids, but from an early age it becomes evident that you can't control them. That is why parents are not liable for their kids bad acts. Can a parent scar or ruin a child? Yes, but we don't know the facts of this case. I am not cutting RemDawg slack because he is the Sox announcer. I wouldn't condemn any parent in a case like this.

 

Here are the facts:

 

Remy - Three children. Three arrests. Three individuals with lack of self-control, anger management problems, disregard for the rights of others, and accepting "no" as an answer.

 

How could all three children be severely deficient in these areas? There's one common factor, and that is usually where children learn these skills from.

[a700hitter]

Here are the facts:

 

Remy - Three children. Three arrests. Three individuals with lack of self-control, anger management problems, disregard for the rights of others, and accepting "no" as an answer.

 

How could all three children be severely deficient in these areas? There's one common factor, and that is usually where children learn these skills from.

There could be mental illness involved or other inherited personality/character traits.

 

It could be a poor choice of friends and acquaintences. The possibilities are limitless.

[mvp 78]

They aren't children. They are adults.

[rjortiz]

There could be mental illness involved or other inherited personality/character traits.

 

It could be a poor choice of friends and acquaintences. The possibilities are limitless.

 

lol mental illness. That's a convenient excuse.

[User Name]

rj, do you have kids or have you taken care of one for a prolonged period of time? I don't mean this as a way to discount your opinion, i ask this because until you've been in charge of a child it's very hard to understand just how little control you have over their actions overall. I'd be quicker to pass judgement if there was specific evidence against Remy for his kids' actions, or if they weren't adults. There's a reason why the law doesn't hold parents accountable for the actions of their adult kids.

[wyo-sox]

I've seen too many kids grow up in the worst of conditions s with criminally negligent parents- that turned themselves into good people......and too many kids with good parents that turned out to be scrum bags. Generally parenting produces the type of person we become..... but there are too many examples of people that choose to break their parents mold for me to automatically blame parents. Individuals are responsible for their actions.

[Palodios]

Here are the facts:

 

Remy - Three children. Three arrests. Three individuals with lack of self-control, anger management problems, disregard for the rights of others, and accepting "no" as an answer.

 

Jared Remy took steroids, probably because he was tired of being in his father's shadow and wanted all the perks of being a major leaguer. By the look of him... he took too many.

 

But the other two? People drink. People get arrested. People commit crimes of passion. It happens to most people at some point in their lives, because they're human. If you don't believe me, then you don't know your friends and family all that well. The other two Remy kids weren't exactly repeat offenders with long rapsheets.

[User Name]

...and of course, the fact that they're in the media spotlight (relatively famous dad) magnifies whatever screw-up they might commit because, hey, media!

[seabeachfred]

Tomorrow is February 1st (2 weeks before pitchers and catchers report) and Drew is still homeless. This has gone much longer than I had expected. As far as I have read, the Red Sox have never made him an offer but have asked him to give them the opportunity to match or exceed any offer. Time is running out on that strategy. Any tram that makes Drew an offer at this juncture will expect him to sign on the spot.

 

Well I wish some team not named the Red Sox would. He's like the 1000 pound gorilla in the room. Come on Mets, you need a SS and so do you Pirates. As for you miserable Dodgers, you all say Alex Guerrero might not be ready and Drew said he can play second base. Somebody, damn it, sign the guy

[User Name]

Oy vey!