10/28 World Series Game 5 @ St Louis

[Northern Star]

It hasent happened since 1918. It's a big deal and people are paying for it.

Honestly, If I had that kind of money I would go myself. Once in a lifetime thing.

 

Depends how old you are as to the chances of it happening again in your lifetime. Hey, if some chode wants to pay $24,000 for seats behind the dugout, more fool him. To me a sports team winning a championship is a nice thing, but not something to spend what these tickets are going for.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

If we do pull this out, the championship DVD is going to be all kinds of epic.

[jung]

I have tickets to Game 7. I'm kind of conflicted about it. As sick as that'd be to see the Sox win it in person, I don't know if my heart could handle it. Plus there's the whole unfortunate part where the Cards could also win...

 

I could see where it would be easier to decide to hit game 6 than game 7.

[Thunder]

I could see where it would be easier to decide to hit game 6 than game 7.

 

What's this talk about a game 7? There will be no game 7

[jung]

Amazing s*** people are spouting today. Lets see...during the course of the day I have heard:

- "ah gee isn't time now to finally give up in Drew" (I am beginning to doubt whether some of these folks actually dress themselves in the morning)

 

This one is even better

- "me and my buddies think we should hold Lackey out of game 6 so that he won't be matched against Wacha cause he is so good that we are bound to lose that game. Then we could run Lackey out there for game 7". (now this group would probably starve if you moved the plate a foot away from right under their noses)

[sk7326]

If we do pull this out, the championship DVD is going to be all kinds of epic.

 

A bunch of men growing beards?

 

I've seen epic - this won't top 2004 ... and that is fine, nothing should

[RedSoxNC84]

A bunch of men growing beards?

 

I've seen epic - this won't top 2004 ... and that is fine, nothing should

 

I'd say it's a little bit more than people growing beards... I think they also hit a couple baseballs

[User Name]

There's also the whole "from 69 wins to a WS title" narrative.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

A bunch of men growing beards?

Don't judge lest you be judged.

[Navafan29]

Cmon put Salty in game 6. Lackey always does better when Salty is catching.

[User Name]

Yeah let Salty throw away game six with his defensive ineptitude because it seems like he possibly could do better with Salty than the vastly superior Ross because of a limited sample size.

[Navafan29]

Yeah let Salty throw away game six with his defensive ineptitude because it seems like he possibly could do better with Salty than the vastly superior Ross because of a limited sample size.

 

Oh yeah cause the 162 game regular season is a crappy sample size to show that Salty is better than Ross. Salty has been catching huge playoff games for Lackey and is a better bet against RHP but everyone panics with one throw that Middlebrooks had a pretty good chance at catching.

[Navafan29]

But I guess there could be some secret condition we don't know about. Maybe Salty is secretly not 100% or somethin and Farrell doesn't want to release the info.

[Beaneater]

If we do pull this out, the championship DVD is going to be all kinds of epic.

 

This is one of the very most important reasons that I need the Sox to win one more game. I don't get to see any of the action for all intents and purposes, and getting a championship DVD would just be fantastic for me.

 

I happened to be in the States for 2004, which was otherworldly. In 2007, I was back in Africa for the whole season. A friend's championship DVD went a long way toward filling the void.

[Bellhorn04]

Oh yeah cause the 162 game regular season is a crappy sample size to show that Salty is better than Ross. Salty has been catching huge playoff games for Lackey and is a better bet against RHP but everyone panics with one throw that Middlebrooks had a pretty good chance at catching.

 

Salty shouldn't have thrown that ball. And he had a key misplay the game before as well. And he has struck out 19 times in 35 plate appearances in the postseason.

 

He had a very good season. But he's been hurting us in the postseason. Ross is clearly the right choice.

[jung]

Salty shouldn't have thrown that ball. And he had a key misplay the game before as well. And he has struck out 19 times in 35 plate appearances in the postseason.

 

He had a very good season. But he's been hurting us in the postseason. Ross is clearly the right choice.

 

And frankly this is the way Salty has thrown all season long. This is no surprise, especially when Salty is throwing in the general direction of 3rd. The surprise if any is that he continues to throw on very short odds that he is going to get the runner even with a perfect throw. At this point he must know full well that this is not his strong suit but he is by God throwin' it come hell or high water. Seems to me that the only way to stop him from throwing it is to sit his rear end on the pine.

 

What is Salty doing that is so terrific anyway at this point? He could not hit his way out of a paper bag at present.

[VA Sox Fan]

I believe that there were 2 jerk-offs on this board who picked the Cards while pretending to be Sox fans.

 

I'll never understand the mindset of a portion of the Red Sox fanbase. Embarassing. I would never bet on the Red Sox, period. But if I did, I wouldn't admit it.

[Brennan]

My kid is an elitist, he was born on December 26th 2003 and sat on my lap to watch the Sox win their first World Series in (as if it hasn't been beaten to death) 86 years at the ripe old age of 10 months. He saw them do it again three years later and will God willingly see it yet again in the next few days all before he is ten years old.

 

God bless all those poor bastard Sox fans that lived between 1918 and 2004 and carried that heavy torch.

[Beaneater]

My kid is an elitist, he was born on December 26th 2003 and sat on my lap to watch the Sox win their first World Series in (as if it hasn't been beaten to death) 86 years at the ripe old age of 10 months. He saw them do it again three years later and will God willingly see it yet again in the next few days all before he is ten years old.

 

God bless all those poor bastard Sox fans that lived between 1918 and 2004 and carried that heavy torch.

 

I was just saying this to 8-year-old Beaneater Jr. He was in the oven in 2004 and too young to remember 2007. He's got a solid chance of having his 2nd Sox championship (and the first one he'll remember) before he turns 9. He was trying to roll over in his mind that there was a span of time equal to the current lifespan of his great-grandfather where the Sox won zilch. It's freaky.

 

Dang, I hope they win tonight. I think they win Game 7 if it comes to that -- there will just be too much Lester and Doubront (did I seriously just say that?) available out of the 'pen. But I need a full night's sleep sometime...

[mvp 78]

Cmon put Salty in game 6. Lackey always does better when Salty is catching.

 

Lackey has a lower ERA with Ross than with Salty. Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument though.

[redsoxfan3]

Lackey has a lower ERA with Ross than with Salty. Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument though.

 

Not to mention, Salty is 0-6 with 4 K's (he does have 2 BB's). I know Ross has had his fair share of K's as well with 6 in 3 games, but he had a huge hit in game 5. He is hitting .250 in three games. Ross is the better defensive catcher. When he is hitting better than Salty (even with a small sample size), it is almost a no brainer to start him over Salty, because offense is the only reason you want Salty in the game over Ross.

 

Game 4 and Game 5 we have came out with W's. Ross started in all three of the wins. You have to play the guy who is getting the job done.

[sk7326]

Ross has played better than Salty the last couple of games ... we are down to a 2 game season (tops) ... this does not impact the decision to bring Salty back one way or the other (nor should it - and this applies to Middlebrooks as well). But there is a championship to win - the long term stuff we discuss ad nauseam goes out the window here.

[User Name]

Lackey has a lower ERA with Ross than with Salty. Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument though.

 

I didn't even wanna mention the cERA thing because i don't believe in the stat in general. However, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know Ross is the better defender in every possible way.

[Bellhorn04]

One other note on Ross: in his last 8 postseason games (7 starts), going back to last year's play-in game with Atlanta, he has 3 multi-hit games, 4 extra-base hits and a .985 OPS.

[mvp 78]

I didn't even wanna mention the cERA thing because i don't believe in the stat in general. However, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know Ross is the better defender in every possible way.

 

I only said that because it's the polar opposite of his assumption that Lackey " always does better" with Salty.

 

Clearly, that's not the case.

[User Name]

I only said that because it's the polar opposite of his assumption that Lackey " always does better" with Salty.

 

Clearly, that's not the case.

 

Agreed.

[SoxSport]

The best thing they can do right now is to tune out the media and stay focussed on winning. It ain't over yet.

[sk7326]

What to do with Wacha the 2nd time around will be an interesting question ... to me, I could see an adjustment to the gameplan they used against David Price in Game 2 of the Tampa Series, dispense with the "deep count" approach and sit dead red for hittable fastballs, first pitch or otherwise. No reason for them to look for his curve - it's a hanger and he doesn't like throwing it. That reduces it to a two pitch concept.

[User Name]

I was actually thinking the same thing. As explosive as Wacha's fastball is, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to hit it with some modicum of success if they're sitting dead red on it.

[soxfan17881]

Love it! Thanks for the touch up!