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Well, maybe one year is a negotiating ploy. He wants three. Sox offer one. They compromise at two.

 

:lol:

 

This does seem to make a painful amount of sense haha.

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That's why the article says one guaranteed year. Options are not guaranteed years

 

I had originally read a source that said "One year", and didn't use terminology that made it sound like more were possible.

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I had originally read a source that said "One year", and didn't use terminology that made it sound like more were possible.

 

All current sources have addedthrew term guaranteed, and that makes a world of difference.

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Interesting that this is coming out now.....at least we have some news of what's going on. Still not really sure how I feel about him at this point, but they do need to do something. I wonder if he'll be able to catch any games at all? Or does that seem like it's completely out of the plan now?
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If they really wanted to piss money away, they would have just went through with the 3 year deal. They are being prudent here, imo.

 

"Prudent" is walking away with $13 million while you have it.

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I'm sorry, but have they spent the money yet? No. Are they trying to make the deal on their own terms? Yes.

 

That's the definition of prudent.

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Bowden says Nap's agent doesn't have many clients. Translated, that means he wants max commission--max years.

 

My feeling is they are finding out what they have to give up to get Morse right now in the way of prospects. If one of their BP lefties plus a B prospect will do it, they might pull the trigger. Morse costs $7mil, plus they might get a draft pick for him as a FA later. They may also be looking at other options in the trade market.

 

Napoli could be just fine next year. But then he could break down, and then they are in trouble. It's a big gamble. And even $13 million is a lot to gamble.

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Hearing from a reliable source that Mike Napoli will be with the #RedSox this season. "He'll be here this year."
That is from the Twitter of Jared Carrabis. Now before anyone gets on me about this, I know he is not Buster Olney, Ken Rosenthal, Nick Cafardo, etc., but he has been right about stuff like this in the past. He has a lot of inside connections with the Red Sox.

 

I am assuming that we might have a one year contract with Napoli and maybe an option for the 2nd year? That would make sense to me. Or maybe it is a two year contract with the option for a 3rd. Either way, I think something will be resolved soon with Napoli. Maybe they have agreed to terms and are waiting until Monday to announce it.

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I'm sorry, but have they spent the money yet? No. Are they trying to make the deal on their own terms? Yes.

 

That's the definition of prudent.

 

SoxSport and common sense aren't on the best of terms sometimes

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Napoli could end up finding the guaranteed 1 year appealing and for the Sox it would be like drop kicking the 1st base decision downstream. At this point that would make sense for them as well.

 

I would not be surprised to find the guaranteed 1 year is not a negotiating ploy but an actual offer that the Sox would find appealing.

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You get the felling that the FO is using this Napoli mess as a distraction for the fan base to cover up that the SP is still looking a little weak. Because you know as sone as this Napoli contract is straightened out then the focus goes back on the SP. It does sound like this thing is coming to a head though. Hopefully, next week the Napoli mess is done.
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You get the felling that the FO is using this Napoli mess as a distraction for the fan base to cover up that the SP is still looking a little weak. Because you know as sone as this Napoli contract is straightened out then the focus goes back on the SP. It does sound like this thing is coming to a head though. Hopefully, next week the Napoli mess is done.

 

I haven't gotten to that point, but it looks like they aren't going to add any more to their starting pitching.

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You get the felling that the FO is using this Napoli mess as a distraction for the fan base to cover up that the SP is still looking a little weak. Because you know as sone as this Napoli contract is straightened out then the focus goes back on the SP. It does sound like this thing is coming to a head though. Hopefully, next week the Napoli mess is done.

 

Did you make your own tinfoil hat, or did you buy it?

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Did you make your own tinfoil hat, or did you buy it?

 

c'mon I make the tinfoil jokes around here :lol:

 

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss88/SilentWolf8979/Smileys/tinfoil.gif

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I haven't gotten to that point, but it looks like they aren't going to add any more to their starting pitching.

 

I don't see a sane move that seriously adds to the top of their pitching rotation, and as long as only the usual number of things go wrong they're pretty much set for depth.

 

How much are you really gonna spend to upgrade the #4 spot in your rotation in a year where you already know you're betting against the odds to get anywhere??

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Bowden says Nap's agent doesn't have many clients. Translated, that means he wants max commission--max years.

 

My feeling is they are finding out what they have to give up to get Morse right now in the way of prospects. If one of their BP lefties plus a B prospect will do it, they might pull the trigger. Morse costs $7mil, plus they might get a draft pick for him as a FA later. They may also be looking at other options in the trade market.

 

Napoli could be just fine next year. But then he could break down, and then they are in trouble. It's a big gamble. And even $13 million is a lot to gamble.

 

That sort of makes sense to me Sox Sport but my innards are telling me that once again our sometimes bungling front office is playing with dynamite. If Morse is not traded for soon or is traded to another team and we then lose out on Napoli who signs elsewhere, we are looking at a real bad scene----- the possibility that we have to go with loser and life time minor leaguer Mauro Gomez at first, a guy who has little power, is a weak defensive player, cannot run worth s***, and is reputed to be dumber than a lamp. You don't win with a first baseman like that.

 

Sure, I've have painted a worse case scenario but with the the people running our front office we been getting burned pretty badly by some of their miserable moves the past few years. My opinion is we should make the move for Morse. If we get Napoli we could play the guy in left field since he can play the outfield as well and it would give us another good power hitter. What I don't want is to have us wind up with nothing.

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I seriously doubt Napoli's people will accept a deal that is PA dependent. Whatever they are balking at now is not as likely to put as much ammo in the hands of the Sox as PA's allowing the Sox to opt out of the last two years of a three year deal.
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Easy way to rectify this. Keep the original agreement, but if he's under 500PAs in yr 1, the sox get a chance to opt out of the final two yrs

 

That wouldn't work very well for the Napoli camp though. He's hit 500+ PAs exactly one time in his career. His next highest is 432.

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Cafardo has a quote which says Napoli's hip could go anytime, or in 5 years. Nobody knows.

Pretty nuts to guarantee him anything.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/01/cafardo-on-napoli-lohse-upton-bourn-soriano.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

If this is true they should try and get away as soon as they can really. I don't know who they go after to take his place, but if the concern is that high I agree, to give him any money is sort of crazy.

 

Not sure how much I like the plate appearance thing either. He could very well make most the season, end up right around 400 and then go down the crapper. Then they're stuck with him while he's recovering from lord knows what.

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Looking more and more like Mauro and Salty fighting it out for the right to wear a first baseman's glove.

 

Interesting point to consider: both have revealed a platoon split tendency. So the correct answer may well be "both of the above." Mauro against LHP, Salty against RHP.

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Looking more and more like Mauro and Salty fighting it out for the right to wear a first baseman's glove.

 

Interesting point to consider: both have revealed a platoon split tendency. So the correct answer may well be "both of the above." Mauro against LHP, Salty against RHP.

Gagging .
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This thread should be locked until we sign him, it's such a tease to read the thread and he's still not signed.

 

Just check MLBTR first before you come here.

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Looking more and more like Mauro and Salty fighting it out for the right to wear a first baseman's glove.

 

Interesting point to consider: both have revealed a platoon split tendency. So the correct answer may well be "both of the above." Mauro against LHP, Salty against RHP.

 

This very well could happen. If it does, it'll be upsetting. I really hope they didn't sit around all this time and do nothing else to rectify the problem. At this point they've had a ton of time to work on all of this. Ugh.

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Looking more and more like Mauro and Salty fighting it out for the right to wear a first baseman's glove.

 

Interesting point to consider: both have revealed a platoon split tendency. So the correct answer may well be "both of the above." Mauro against LHP, Salty against RHP.

 

Please Dojii, don't tell me you actually support such an idiotic Red Sox scenario at this. Bad enough we have some apologists and ball washers on this board who applaud on cue everything the front office does with nary an original idea of their own, but for the Red Sox to move a miserable fielding catcher to first base where he'd be even worse and then to add a worthless career minor leaguer to the platoon mix is enough to make one want to reatch up his breakfast.

 

The team will have surrendered any semblance of an improvement if they do something this stupid and idiotic. First of all Satalamacchia should be employed elsewhere by ST and Gomez should be given a one way ticket back to the DR, to Aruba, to Venezuela or even better to Zanzibar, but as far away from Fenway as can be managed.

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