2012 Red Sox Spring Training Game Thread

[a700hitter]

Let's change topic. What came first the chicken or the egg?

[Emmz]

Chicken.

[a700hitter]

Chicken.

Do yo know why?

[Emmz]

Because Stone Cold said so.

[a700hitter]

Because Stone Cold said so.

No, because eggs can't come and that is a scientifically provable truth.

[Emmz]

Lol, you gotta add IMO before everything, otherwise you're making a statement!

[a700hitter]

"Hi Ho" Silva AWAY!!!!!!!!

In the poll about the 5th starter coming north, there were 25 votes and no one picked Silva. Everyone was right about that.

 

[User Name]

I've done a 180 on the ignore feature. This forum is much more enjoyable because of it.

 

On topic:

 

Valentine, on Bard's outing:

 

"First, let's say that wasn't (Baltimore's) `A' squad out there and we all know that," Boston manager Bobby Valentine said. "That being said, Daniel's two-seamer was good, his four-steamer was good, he threw four sliders, they all did what he wanted them to do. He looked very comfortable on the mound, looked comfortable out of the windup, got into a stretch he was OK, and felt good afterwards."

[mvp 78]

No mention of a mystery changeup he's working on?

[MANNYHOF24]

Carlos Silva, I'm sorry to inform you that you are longer part of the competition to become America's next top model.

[Spudboy]

Sounds pretty good EX1. I guess you like Castiglione better than the Orsillo-Remy duo OR, as you put it, you get a better description. I have the MLB.TV package but can't get the radio portion along with the TV feed but I like Orsillo and Remy. Maybe it's Red Sox bias but I like that combo. What I do not like is when the Sox are on the road and I get some yo yo announcers from the other team that do their best to bore me out of my shorts.

 

My guess is that you are considerably younger than I am and grew up with TV baseball. The first few years of my fandom we didn't have the tube and it was radio or nothing. You can develop a good imagination trying to picture what is taking place on the ballfield listening to it on the radio. Still that was a long long time ago and times have changed.

 

Even my grandpa used to listen to the radio with the TV while watching baseball' date=' but I don't think you can say baseball is better than whatever sport through any medium. I think all sports generally sound better through radio just because its more descriptive.[/quote']

 

When I started watching Red Sox baseball on TV it was on Ch 38 in Boston. That is UHF. We had a black and white VHF only TV in 1966! I listened to games on WHDH radio most times. Sometimes the games would be broadcast on Ch 5 which was CBS in Boston at that time. My Dad broke down and bough a UHF converter so HE could watch Bruins games on Ch 38. So in 1967 I got to watch all the Red Sox games that were broadcast on Boston TV and then of course the World Series! I've been hooked ever since

 

And Emmz is correct. The game is described better on radio as a rule.

[Spudboy]

Back in the day' date=' it used to be a party game to have Johnny Most on the radio and the Celtics on the TV with the sound down. It was like he was watching a different game than you were.[/quote']

 

Back in the day, I used to sit behind Johnny Most and watch the game with him. During commercial breaks we would talk about basketball and cigarettes. He used to smoke "English Ovals". He let me have a few (I was 13 years old and you could still smoke at the Garden). Those things were so harsh. No wonder he sounded like a frog! But I will tell you, he called a game very accurately, although with considerable bias. He was a cool old dude.

[Spudboy]

Chicken.

 

Nope

[seabeachfred]

When I started watching Red Sox baseball on TV it was on Ch 38 in Boston. That is UHF. We had a black and white VHF only TV in 1966! I listened to games on WHDH radio most times. Sometimes the games would be broadcast on Ch 5 which was CBS in Boston at that time. My Dad broke down and bough a UHF converter so HE could watch Bruins games on Ch 38. So in 1967 I got to watch all the Red Sox games that were broadcast on Boston TV and then of course the World Series! I've been hooked ever since

 

And Emmz is correct. The game is described better on radio as a rule.

 

Well give your dad some real kuddos because his timing was perfect. It was in 1967 that Red Sox Nation was born, so I'm told in books and by my Red Sox friends who have followed them much longer than I have. They stunk from 1959-1966 after finishing third in '58. As most likely know they finished a dismal 9th in '66 in what was then a ten team league. The only saving grace was who finished tenth. Think you know who???? If you don't you'll be pleased as punch to find out.

 

BTW, Dick Williams is my all time favorite manager. The guy ran a tough ship but he turned around teams in Boston, Oakland, Montreal, and San Diego. He only failed in Anaheim and back in those days everyone failed there. Getting back to the medium, I referred earlier to my experiences listening to games on radio four seasons before we got a TV set. I think baseball is by far the best sport to listen to by radio. The pace is perfect and if one is inclined they can use their imagination to try and picture the current surrounding of the ballfield your team is playing on. I spent many an afternoon doing just that back in my young Queens days.

[Bellhorn04]

This is no ********, I was following the game on my transistor radio when Luis Aparicio fell rounding third base in Detroit in 1972. I can still remember it clearly, because it was my first Red Sox 'WTF just happened?' moment.

[SoxSport]

Radio? I remember Curt Gowdy in the early 50s doing the Sox games on radio and TV.

Johnny Most the Celtics, and Fred Cusick the Bruins.

 

I remember listening to Allie Reynolds no-hitter against the Sox, when Yogi dropped Ted Williams' foul pop with 2 outs in the 9th. Ted promptly popped another foul, and Yogi caught this one. Unbelievable but true. The Yankees had Raschi, Reynolds and Lopat. The Red Sox had Parnell, Parnell and Parnell. That was the difference.

[Bellhorn04]

Radio? I remember Curt Gowdy in the early 50s doing the Sox games on radio and TV.

Johnny Most the Celtics, and Fred Cusick the Bruins.

 

I remember listening to Allie Reynolds no-hitter against the Sox, when Yogi dropped Ted Williams' foul pop with 2 outs in the 9th. Ted promptly popped another foul, and Yogi caught this one. Unbelievable but true. The Yankees had Raschi, Reynolds and Lopat. The Red Sox had Parnell, Parnell and Parnell. That was the difference.

 

Fred Cusick stuck around a long time. I remember him doing Bruins games in the late Seventies. He had one of those classic voices. Ken Coleman was the classic Red Sox radio voice, I think.

[RedSoxNC84]

"Hi Ho" Silva AWAY!!!!!!!!

 

Indeed sir.

[Elktonnick]

Fred Cusick stuck around a long time. I remember him doing Bruins games in the late Seventies. He had one of those classic voices. Ken Coleman was the classic Red Sox radio voice' date=' I think.[/quote']

 

au contraire, Ned Martin or to those of us who grew up in the fifties it was the "Cowboy at the Mike" Curt Gowdy.

[Bellhorn04]

au contraire' date=' Ned Martin or to those of us who grew up in the fifties it was the "Cowboy at the Mike" Curt Gowdy.[/quote']

 

A chacun le sien.

[Elktonnick]

A chacun le sien.

 

d'accord.

[seabeachfred]

Radio? I remember Curt Gowdy in the early 50s doing the Sox games on radio and TV.

Johnny Most the Celtics, and Fred Cusick the Bruins.

 

I remember listening to Allie Reynolds no-hitter against the Sox, when Yogi dropped Ted Williams' foul pop with 2 outs in the 9th. Ted promptly popped another foul, and Yogi caught this one. Unbelievable but true. The Yankees had Raschi, Reynolds and Lopat. The Red Sox had Parnell, Parnell and Parnell. That was the difference.

 

Whoa Sox Sport, are you an ancient like me? You remember listening in 1951? OK!!!!! Good to have another senior senior on the board. If you remember '51, that was the last year for Bobby Doerr, and Dom D and Johnny Pesky were gone by the middle of the '52 season. That was a bad year for the Red Sox and Boston baseball in general. The Red Sox fell down to sixth place in the standings and the Braves drew a paltry 281,000 fans all season and moved out of town the next Spring.

 

Brings back a lot of memories my friend. '51 turned out to be a most miserable year for me after such hopeful beginnings. I rooted for Brooklyn as a kid and they blew it to Bobby Thomson that fall. They came back the next y ear to win the NL Pennant by lost to the Yankees in 7 in the WS----the usual fare for the Brooklyn team back then.

[TylerD]

Whoa Sox Sport, are you an ancient like me? You remember listening in 1951? OK!!!!! Good to have another senior senior on the board. If you remember '51, that was the last year for Bobby Doerr, and Dom D and Johnny Pesky were gone by the middle of the '52 season. That was a bad year for the Red Sox and Boston baseball in general. The Red Sox fell down to sixth place in the standings and the Braves drew a paltry 281,000 fans all season and moved out of town the next Spring.

 

Brings back a lot of memories my friend. '51 turned out to be a most miserable year for me after such hopeful beginnings. I rooted for Brooklyn as a kid and they blew it to Bobby Thomson that fall. They came back the next y ear to win the NL Pennant by lost to the Yankees in 7 in the WS----the usual fare for the Brooklyn team back then.

 

Wow i could listen to your knowledge all day lol! I mean dont get me wrong i always love talking about the now days Red Sox and the two wprld series we have won in the last eight yr. But going back to the 50's. I was born in 87 but really didnt start following the sox till about ten years ago when i was 14.

[Spitball]

I was listening to games in the 1950s but wasn't really aware of the individual personalities until probably the early 1960s. By third grade, I was fully aware of Curt Gowdy, Ned Martin, and Art Gleeson. We would imitate Curt Gowdy play calling while playing wiffleball.

 

I remember when Mel Parnell came onboard replacing Gleeson. I remember Curt Gowdy going to the national networks and being replaced by Ken Coleman. I remember Hawk Harrelson's first year and he wrote the song, "Hail, Hail Red Sox." Now he calls them the Bad Sox.

 

I remember Jim Woods' first season in the mid-1970s, and he had a few rough moments. A friend and I were going someplace in my vw and listening to a game on the radio. Juan Marichal was way past his prime but attempting to hang on with the Red Sox. Woods was calling the action as Marichal pitched. One sequence went something like, "Marichal kicks and delivers. There's a swing and a long drive to center. Marichal is on his horse and pulls it down at the wall!"

 

My friend said, "Damn! That Marichal is good!" It would have been an incredible play by Marichal, but it was actually Juan Beniquez who caught the long drive.

[seabeachfred]

Wow i could listen to your knowledge all day lol! I mean dont get me wrong i always love talking about the now days Red Sox and the two wprld series we have won in the last eight yr. But going back to the 50's. I was born in 87 but really didnt start following the sox till about ten years ago when i was 14.

 

Tyler---I finally got someone beat...FINALLY!!!!!! I became a Red Sox fan in August of 2000 which puts me pretty much behind the rest of the band around here. Since you came on board around 2001 or 2002, you are a later arrival, but for a damn good reason....your age. You know I often get asked about why it took me so long to find the Red Sox and if someone could answer that for me I would be delighted.

 

I knew all about them and prayed like the wind in '49 when they came to Yankee Stadium with a one game lead with two to play and lost both of them. As a kid growing up in Queens I utterly hated that team......something that served me well when I became a Sox fan. Don't worry about the old days Tyler....Take it from me, those two WS Titles won by the Red Sox in '04 and '07 outrank anything that I remember when I was a kid. Those were just tremendous memories and I only hope I will be around to see the Red Sox win a couple or a few more. You may have missed a lot but you didn't miss the best of the lot. Take my word for it.

[seabeachfred]

I was listening to games in the 1950s but wasn't really aware of the individual personalities until probably the early 1960s. By third grade, I was fully aware of Curt Gowdy, Ned Martin, and Art Gleeson. We would imitate Curt Gowdy play calling while playing wiffleball.

 

I remember when Mel Parnell came onboard replacing Gleeson. I remember Curt Gowdy going to the national networks and being replaced by Ken Coleman. I remember Hawk Harrelson's first year and he wrote the song, "Hail, Hail Red Sox." Now he calls them the Bad Sox.

 

I remember Jim Woods' first season in the mid-1970s, and he had a few rough moments. A friend and I were going someplace in my vw and listening to a game on the radio. Juan Marichal was way past his prime but attempting to hang on with the Red Sox. Woods was calling the action as Marichal pitched. One sequence went something like, "Marichal kicks and delivers. There's a swing and a long drive to center. Marichal is on his horse and pulls it down at the wall!"

 

My friend said, "Damn! That Marichal is good!" It would have been an incredible play by Marichal, but it was actually Juan Beniquez who caught the long drive.

 

Interesting point Spitball....Curt Gowdy and Jim Woods both worked for the Yankees prior to going to the Red Sox. Gowdy was Mel Allen's second with the Yankees in the late 40's until he went to the Red Sox either in 1950 or more likely 1951. When I was forced to listen to Yankee games when the Brooklyn Dodgers were on the road I just hated to listen to Allen, a real Yankee homer, but Gowdy had a nice delivery and was enjoyable to hear. For some reason he was never on TV with the Yankees to my recollection. As for Woods, I don't know when he was with the Yankees but I think the mid 50's might have been the time.

[Bellhorn04]

I was listening to games in the 1950s but wasn't really aware of the individual personalities until probably the early 1960s. By third grade, I was fully aware of Curt Gowdy, Ned Martin, and Art Gleeson. We would imitate Curt Gowdy play calling while playing wiffleball.

 

I remember when Mel Parnell came onboard replacing Gleeson. I remember Curt Gowdy going to the national networks and being replaced by Ken Coleman. I remember Hawk Harrelson's first year and he wrote the song, "Hail, Hail Red Sox." Now he calls them the Bad Sox.

 

I remember Jim Woods' first season in the mid-1970s, and he had a few rough moments. A friend and I were going someplace in my vw and listening to a game on the radio. Juan Marichal was way past his prime but attempting to hang on with the Red Sox. Woods was calling the action as Marichal pitched. One sequence went something like, "Marichal kicks and delivers. There's a swing and a long drive to center. Marichal is on his horse and pulls it down at the wall!"

 

My friend said, "Damn! That Marichal is good!" It would have been an incredible play by Marichal, but it was actually Juan Beniquez who caught the long drive.

 

The first game I ever saw at Fenway was in 1974 and Marichal was the starting pitcher.

[a700hitter]

Bottom 8th: Cards 9, Red Sox 3

Chris Carpenter couldn't find the plate in allowing three walks including the go-ahead run before being relieved by Garrett Mock. The Cards scored six runs in a horrible inning for the Sox on the mound and in the field.

[Bellhorn04]

Oh well, good games today for Beckett and Iglesias.

[TylerD]

Tyler---I finally got someone beat...FINALLY!!!!!! I became a Red Sox fan in August of 2000 which puts me pretty much behind the rest of the band around here. Since you came on board around 2001 or 2002, you are a later arrival, but for a damn good reason....your age. You know I often get asked about why it took me so long to find the Red Sox and if someone could answer that for me I would be delighted.

 

I knew all about them and prayed like the wind in '49 when they came to Yankee Stadium with a one game lead with two to play and lost both of them. As a kid growing up in Queens I utterly hated that team......something that served me well when I became a Sox fan. Don't worry about the old days Tyler....Take it from me, those two WS Titles won by the Red Sox in '04 and '07 outrank anything that I remember when I was a kid. Those were just tremendous memories and I only hope I will be around to see the Red Sox win a couple or a few more. You may have missed a lot but you didn't miss the best of the lot. Take my word for it.

Wow! I guess better late then never hey?? Im from Canada so i watched baseball even when i was 6 yrs old but it was the Bluejays just because thats what my family watched. When i was 14 and started watching Boston I never understood why my dad got so upset. Now it all mkes sense hahaha.