Sox sign Aaron Cook

[BornToRun]

A watershed moment in TalkSox history!

 

As time goes on we will probably agree more. We are both crazed Sox fans who know the game and can differentiate the good players from the bad ones.

 

So that Julio lugo fella. What an *******, huh?

[Spudboy]

In a game like yesterday's' date=' Cook would have thrown strikes and made the batters get themselves out.[/quote']

 

Speculation.

[Spudboy]

He doesn't have the stuff to come into the heart of the zone consistently. The difference between a guy like Cook and most pitchers is that he's better equipped to nibble because of his excellent command. If he leaves one in the sweet spot though' date=' he doesn't have the velo to keep hitters from launching it into orbit.[/quote']

 

More speculation.

 

Although, with more thought articulated.

[Spudboy]

Thats absurd. You really think its sad that some of us who doubted Cook now look at how he has done and have changed our minds? What would truly be sad is if we looked at his stats and continued to opine that he doesn't deserve a shot in the rotation or at least on the roster. Situations change. You cannot get stuck in the mud by stubbornly ignoring the facts.

 

Be consistent.

 

Please?

 

You are no dope.

[Spudboy]

Ah' date=' the way I read it was he had one unused option for 2008-9 that has expired. [b']I'm not entirely positive how the process works.[/b]

 

You are not alone.

[SCM33]

Scott Lauber ‏ @ScottLauber

Nothing to report on Aaron Cook tonight, Ben Cherington says. But Lars Anderson has been sent to Triple-A, so a move coming tomorrow #RedSox

[jung]

I wish the Sox did not have to wait for Cook to make his notification. They really don't have to wait but I guess that is what they are going to do. Really I guess I am just impatient to see if they really have something in Cook or not.

[FredLynn]

Be consistent.

 

Please?

 

You are no dope.

 

I hope I am no dope.

Only a dope would get stuck defending a position that is no longer valid. I was watching the Celtics game tonite and saw Avery Bradley out there leading the team at point guard in Rondo's absence. Had you asked me last year if he would ever amount to anything I would have said emphatically no, he was a bum. Now look at him. He has become a very good basketball player with a very high ceiling. Should I try to defend an indefensible position and continue to insist that he is a bum, or should I recognize the reality of what he has become. The same can be said of some baseball players.

I admit that I thought that Cook was cooked, that he had nothing left. Now, based on his performance in his rehab starts, I am not so sure. He should get a chance on the roster. If he fails, he is gone; if he succeeds, we have another decent arm.

[Dojji]

More speculation.

 

Although, with more thought articulated.

 

Not really speculation. Just the nature of that kind of pitcher. The good ones of that sort are just better at tempting hitters with their stuff. It's not like they can never come into the heart of the zone, but they better not live there.

[Station 13]

Obviously they need to add Cook to the roster. They need 3-4 extra starters post all-star when a few has hit their cap or just s*** their pants.

 

Doubie and Bard won't be starters by August.

 

Likely one of Buchholz, Beckett and Lester will struggle. It's the biggest problems with this team, finding a reliable SP that doesn't tail off by September.

 

Oswalt might be a good pickup for the 2nd half.

[a700hitter]

I guess they don't think our pitching needs any help. What was the point of signing him? He couldn't have performed any better at AAA and he is apparently healthy. Isn't that what they were hoping for when they signed him to the minor league deal? He's the only s*** that stuck to the wall and they can't use him? I am really baffled.

Hopefully, there is a behind the scenes agreement in place.

 

Red Sox Do Not Recall Aaron Cook

 

By Mike Axisa [May 1 at 11:43pm CST]

 

The Red Sox did not call up right-hander Aaron Cook by 12:01pm ET tonight, thus activating the opt-out clause in his contract according to WEEI.com's Alex Speier. Cook has 24 hours to exercise the opt-out, then the team would have 48 hours to respond by calling him up or trading him.

 

Speier reports that the Red Sox will likely work out an agreement with the 33-year-old to keep him on the Major League roster, but there is no formal agreement in place at this time. Boston sent Lars Anderson to Triple-A after Tuesday's game, creating an open 25-man roster spot. The Red Sox would need to clear a 40-man roster for Cook, however.

 

The long-time Rockie has pitched to a 1.89 ERA with 13 strikeouts and 11 walks in 33 1/3 innings across five Triple-A starts. He signed a minor league deal with the Red Sox back in January. Manager Bobby Valentine had previous told reporters that if the team does add Cook to the roster, he will work out of the bullpen.

[Elktonnick]

I can't imagine the Sox letting Cook escape their grasp given the dire pitching situation here and throughout MLB. If they were to, however, it would confirm the utter incompetence that is the current state of the Red Sox FO.

[Dojji]

I can't imagine this season hinging in any reasonable way on whether or not we retain the services of Aaron Cook.

 

Get a grip, people. Just because it says "pitcher" next to his name and he has a few good games in pawtucket doesn't mean he's a solution to our pitching problems.

[jung]

Although I also had hoped the Sox would proactively bring Cook aboard I think the Sox are simply letting the process run its course...giving the Sox the maximum amount of time to work out who will go where. I think Cook does end up on the 25 man roster. Not sure if his first appearance will be in relief or if he will get a start as his first appearance.

 

I actually think that the "who goes where" part and the decision on how to use Cook initially are actually the more difficult items for the Sox to handle. I can't see how they can possibly just let him go without giving him a shot. There are so many moving parts. Maybe Youk should go 15 day DL for example. Youk did not look like somebody who would be able to bend over normally or turn normally for more than a few days last night when he was "preparing" to pinch hit.

 

Whether Cook sticks or not could be another story and will likely depend on how he does when he gets a chance to start a ML game.

[a700hitter]

I can't imagine this season hinging in any reasonable way on whether or not we retain the services of Aaron Cook.

 

Get a grip, people. Just because it says "pitcher" next to his name and he has a few good games in pawtucket doesn't mean he's a solution to our pitching problems.

No one is saying the season is hinging on Cook. Please stop with the antagonistic posts. What I am saying is that he turned out exactly as they had hoped-- healthy and very effective at AAAA. If they don't promote him, what was the purpose of signing him. Obviously, our pitching is not very good right now. If he doesn't get recalled, basically all of those depth signings were pointless.

[a700hitter]

I can't imagine the Sox letting Cook escape their grasp given the dire pitching situation here and throughout MLB. If they were to' date=' however, it would confirm the utter incompetence that is the current state of the Red Sox FO.[/quote']The article does leave open the possibility that an informal deal could be in place. I don't understand why they would leave Cook with the option of jumping when they could've locked him down by making a roster move. What is so difficult about making this roster move. Is our 40 man roster so chocked full of talent that they can't part with anyone? It's emblematic of a GNM who is timid and a procrastinator. s*** or get off the pot on this. It is not a huge decision.

[Dojji]

No one is saying the season is hinging on Cook. Please stop with the antagonistic posts. What I am saying is that he turned out exactly as they had hoped-- healthy and very effective at AAAA. If they don't promote him' date=' what was the purpose of signing him. Obviously, our pitching is not very good right now. If he doesn't get recalled, basically all of those depth signings were pointless.[/quote']

 

Pointless?

 

Way I see it Cook was here in case Bard blew up on the runway, which was a real risk at the time. We're past that initial crisis, so I don't care that much about him.

[a700hitter]

Pointless?

 

Way I see it Cook was here in case Bard blew up on the runway, which was a real risk at the time. We're past that initial crisis, so I don't care that much about him.

So basically, they were prepared to give Bard and Doubront a whole 3 starts in April before pulling the plug? That doesn't sound like much of a plan B if plan B only covers April. What happens if they blow up in May, or the bullpen deteriorates further in May. Without Cook, what is plan B, Ohlendorf, Duckworth? It was an ill-conceived plan if they only were protecting against April occurrences. Pointless, yes.

[jung]

As I understand it, Cook can inform the Sox that he is exercising the option and the Sox then have 48 hours to respond. I do not think Cook can actually "jump" within that 48 hour period. Again as I understand it the Sox still have a hold on him for that 48 hour period after Cook's notification to the Sox. However if they do not act and bring him onto the ML roster within that 48 hour period then Cook can jump ship at that point.

 

Please anybody jump in and correct me if I am wrong. It seems to be designed around the idea that the team actually does want the player which is something we have tossed around a bit here. Why bring Cook into the process if you did not want him to succeed and having succeeded in a process that the Sox themselves devised it would then appear foolhardy to not take the next step. That would be a couple of starts at the ML level to see how he does when the talent level is ML. Had the Sox pitching woes been erased in the interim period, you could maybe see the Sox letting Cook slide. Clearly that is not the case.

 

If there is a problem, maybe it is that most of the pitching problems the Sox have are in the bull pen and Cook should probably be starting. Regardless, it would seem that the Sox must for their own good give Cook a chance to see what he can do against ML talent.

[User Name]

As I understand it, Cook can inform the Sox that he is exercising the option and the Sox then have 48 hours to respond. I do not think Cook can actually "jump" within that 48 hour period. Again as I understand it the Sox still have a hold on him for that 48 hour period after Cook's notification to the Sox. However if they do not act and bring him onto the ML roster within that 48 hour period then Cook can jump ship at that point.

 

This is correct.

[a700hitter]

As I understand it, Cook can inform the Sox that he is exercising the option and the Sox then have 48 hours to respond. I do not think Cook can actually "jump" within that 48 hour period. Again as I understand it the Sox still have a hold on him for that 48 hour period after Cook's notification to the Sox. However if they do not act and bring him onto the ML roster within that 48 hour period then Cook can jump ship at that point.

 

Please anybody jump in and correct me if I am wrong. It seems to be designed around the idea that the team actually does want the player which is something we have tossed around a bit here. Why bring Cook into the process if you did not want him to succeed and having succeeded in a process that the Sox themselves devised it would then appear foolhardy to not take the next step. That would be a couple of starts at the ML level to see how he does when the talent level is ML. Had the Sox pitching woes been erased in the interim period, you could maybe see the Sox letting Cook slide. Clearly that is not the case.

 

If there is a problem, maybe it is that most of the pitching problems the Sox have are in the bull pen and Cook should probably be starting. Regardless, it would seem that the Sox must for their own good give Cook a chance to see what he can do against ML talent.

That seems to be correct. I still can't see them letting him walk. I am assuming they are just letting more time click off the clock. Otherwise, his signing makes no sense at all.

[Bellhorn04]

According to Rob Bradford of WEEI, Cook is going to be called up.

 

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21196376/source-red-sox-promote-aaron-cook

[example1]

According to Rob Bradford of WEEI, Cook is going to be called up.

 

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21196376/source-red-sox-promote-aaron-cook

 

Shocking. The FO apparently was able to navigate the icy and danger-laden waters of minor league contracts.

 

The lack of faith that some people here have is comical. I understand concerns about Free Agency and player evaluation (that stuff is hard) but decisions around things that amount to the basics of human resources should be assumed to be within their competency.

[FredLynn]

According to Rob Bradford of WEEI, Cook is going to be called up.

 

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21196376/source-red-sox-promote-aaron-cook

 

Cook is going to be called up and Clay Bumholtz is going to be sent to the DL because of a blister he has developed. I can see that scenario happening.

 

Meanwhile, right-hander Clay Buchholz developed a blister on his pitching hand Monday night. He has pitched through blister issues in the past, and in a meeting yesterday with Valentine and pitching coach Bob McClure, he described the situation as “chronic” (it typically arises when he throws his curveball).

 

The Red Sox aren’t unconcerned about the blister, but Buchholz also has an 8.69 ERA in five starts. Valentine said his pitches have been sharp, particularly Monday night against the Athletics, but the club is looking for an explanation as to why the results haven’t been better.

 

Even if he’s able to withstand the blister, it might present an opportunity for the Red Sox to skip Buchholz’ next start, give him a chance to throw an extra bullpen session and plug Cook into the rotation rather than putting him in the bullpen.

slauber@bostonherald.com

[a700hitter]

Shocking. The FO apparently was able to navigate the icy and danger-laden waters of minor league contracts.

 

The lack of faith that some people here have is comical. I understand concerns about Free Agency and player evaluation (that stuff is hard) but decisions around things that amount to the basics of human resources should be assumed to be within their competency.

All of us had assumed here at TalkSox had assumed that he would get called up, so it was surprising to see a headline saying: "Sox do not recall Cook."

[jung]

Oh my God....a blister....clearly worthy of a stretch on the 15 day DL. "onlookers outside Fenway Park witnessed Buch being carried out of the meeting with team GM and Manager on a stretcher and being administered oxygen as he was put into the waiting ambulance."

 

We thought there would be some way of moving Buch to the DL and Son of a Gun, I guess this is it.

[mvp 78]

Oh my God....a blister....clearly worthy of a stretch on the 15 day DL. "onlookers outside Fenway Park witnessed Buch being carried out of the meeting with team GM and Manager on a stretcher and being administered oxygen as he was put into the waiting ambulance."

 

We thought there would be some way of moving Buch to the DL and Son of a Gun, I guess this is it.

 

How many trips to the DL has Beckett had for blisters in his career?

[jung]

I had said it in other posts but I probably should have said it here...I think this is the best thing for the Sox to do. It gives Buch a chance to continue his working recovery without having every pitch scrutinized. i do think he will get back to pitching in Pawtucket in short order. Two starts down there just being able to work through issues may do him a world of good as he continues to work back from injury.

 

and.....

 

 

The Sox will hopefully get two starts out of Cook as a means of seeing if his success at AAA translates into some sort of success in the ML. He won't get significant work against the metal of the AL East but this is a nice opportunity for him to show us if he can pitch in the ML particularly in the AL with its DH.

 

So while I am having some fun at the Sox expense, I think we were all banking on the Sox coming up with something like this and at least for my part, I am happy they are finding a way to both get Buch out of the spotlight for a bit and see what Cook has.

[kapsis21]

 

So while I am having some fun at the Sox expense, I think we were all banking on the Sox coming up with something like this and at least for my part, I am happy they are finding a way to both get Buch out of the spotlight for a bit and see what Cook has.

 

yep true that

[mvp 78]

Pitching on Saturday in place of Beckett per 98.5.

 

Don't tell SCM! Too many pitches last start? "It can be cummulative sometimes."