New York Yankees Gameday Thread

[riverside sluggers]

I guess Jesus Montero is trade bait now that they have the next Ivan Rodriguez behind the plate

[jacksonianmarch]

How did you make that step?

[yankees228]

How did you make that step?

 

Cause that's exactly what you said!

[Chamomile]

Down goes another Yankee. It is really amazing that we are 22-8 with all the injuries and inconsistency.

 

Grandy is set to miss 5-6 weeks

Johnson is out at least 2 weeks and probably closer to a month

We've been without Posada for about a weeks worth of time.

Aceves just got back out there and he's back being laid up.

Park's been DL'd for 3 weeks now

Pettitte is gonna miss a start

Vazquez has been a big suckfest

And ARod and Tex did next to nothing in April

 

It is a testament to great starting pitching, a good offensive approach and lights out end of the bullpen arms. Get a QS, work the opposing pitcher out of the game early by riding up his pitch count. Take the lead in the middle innings and make is stand up with a SU-CL combo that is the best in the game. Sitting pretty here waiting for the Ray regression.

 

The Yankees staff has a 3.42 ERA and they're scoring over 6 runs a game and you're trying to act like they're underachieving? Someone's been hitting the Kool-Aid a little hard.

[yankees228]

Well these were the first three games of a very tough 20 game stretch. The remaining games are...

 

4 @ DET

3 vs. MIN

2 vs. BOS

2 vs. TB

3 @ NYM

3 @ MIN

 

After that it gets much easier, but with all the injuries, these next 17 games will be especially tricky.

[Divinity]

Down goes another Yankee. It is really amazing that we are 22-8 with all the injuries and inconsistency.

 

Grandy is set to miss 5-6 weeks

Johnson is out at least 2 weeks and probably closer to a month

We've been without Posada for about a weeks worth of time.

Aceves just got back out there and he's back being laid up.

Park's been DL'd for 3 weeks now

Pettitte is gonna miss a start

Vazquez has been a big suckfest

And ARod and Tex did next to nothing in April

 

Grandy's average wasn't the great when he was here

Posada can fill in as DH with Cervelli's bat hot

Tex is already heating up now that its May, he already has has many hits and home runs as he did in april

Vazquez is a question mark hopefully he can fix his issues and Mitre can get the job done untill then

[Lester82]

Gardner has taken the next step in becoming a potential top of the order threat. He has always had great speed and a great eye. His problem was, that his swing was meant for someone 6'2" 230 instead of a 5 foot nothing 100 nothing scrawny speedster. Long worked with him pretty extensively over the offseason to get him to slap the ball more. And he has, to the tune of >50% groundballs. For him, that means hits. Add to that the new cut down swing, he is now fouling pitches off that he would miss last yr. This means that he is sacrificing power (what little he has) for singles, walks and becoming an all around pain in the ass at the dish.

 

Cervelli is also taking the next step. He has started to show his advanced plate approach that got him notoriety in the minors, but he is also cutting down on the K's. He will never be a 20 homer catcher. But he is a guy who will battle the hell out of you and then walk his fair share plus play elite defense at the catchers position.

 

Those two guys have stemmed the tide of the underproduction and injury throughout the lineup. Now that Tex and ARod are hitting, this lineup should be fun to watch

 

EVERY Yankee has "taken the next step"... God, you're homerific

[Lester82]

I guess Jesus Montero is trade bait now that they have the next Ivan Rodriguez behind the plate

 

Don't forget that in Saturday's start, Hughes was taking the mound in " NEXT STEP " towards ace-like status

 

 

 

And also according to Jacko, Jeremy Hermida will be DFA'ed before Bill Hall.

[Chamomile]

EVERY Yankee has "taken the next step"... God' date=' you're homerific[/quote']

 

It's pretty funny how he thinks small sample sizes of scrubs like Gardner and Cervelli mean they're "taking the next step" yet when A-Rod and Teixeira are struggling in the same sample size he just assumes that the entire lineup is going to be hot at the same time once they come around.

 

Teixeira will come around, but Cano, Swisher, Thames, Gardner and Cervelli are also going to cool off.

 

As for A-Rod, he's a 34 year old roider. Those types of players don't have a very good track record. Manny fell off a cliff at age 35, Ortiz fell off a cliff at age 32, Giambi fell off a cliff at age 36, Conseco fell off a cliff at age 32. A-Rod's had an OPS in the mid to low .900's three of the last four years. Who's to say he won't have an OPS in the .800's this year?

 

Overall, it's hard for anyone with common sense to claim that the Yankees are underperforming with a team ERA below 3.50 and their offense scoring more than 6 runs per game. They aren't that good.

[diony]

Well these were the first three games of a very tough 20 game stretch. The remaining games are...

 

4 @ DET

3 vs. MIN

2 vs. BOS

2 vs. TB

3 @ NYM

3 @ MIN

 

After that it gets much easier, but with all the injuries, these next 17 games will be especially tricky.

 

If Javy turns it around and the pen gets solid. I don't see why they can't. But they need someone decent to play LF. Thames can be used against leftys, but he sucks defensively. Winn provides zero offense. I wonder what they can get out of AAA to solve that.

[Dipre]

If Javy turns it around and the pen gets solid. I don't see why they can't. But they need someone decent to play LF. Thames can be used against leftys' date=' but he sucks defensively.[/b'] Winn provides zero offense. I wonder what they can get out of AAA to solve that.

 

Defense in LF is unimportant. All a LF needs to do is hit according to Jacko.

[diony]

I could live with Damon in LF. But not with Thames.

[msubulldogs21]

Special thanks to Joel Zumaya for pissing all over himself in the 8th.

[msubulldogs21]

Wow. Really nice play by Mags to save the lead. I thought sure that ball was down.

[Dipre]

My God, what a play by Ordonez to preserve the one-run lead.

[msubulldogs21]

I'm not complaining, but I think that strike three on Teixeira was a little off the plate.

[msubulldogs21]

Tigers win. Valverde was pretty sick K'ing the side, and the heart of the lineup no less.

[Lester82]

Stick it, Arod

 

- Perfect gamer's grandma.

[Chamomile]

VALVERDE!

 

And as Damon's hitting home runs to help beat the Yankees, Granderson's on the disabled list for the next month.

[Divinity]

VALVERDE!

 

And as Damon's hitting home runs to help beat the Yankees, Granderson's on the disabled list for the next month.

 

Guess what? Damon was hitting home run's to help beat the Red Sox in 2006 while his replacement Coco Crisp, spent 42 days on the disabled list. What extactly is your point?

[Keeper]

His point was to bait Yankee fans. Looks like he succeeded.

[Chamomile]

Guess what? Damon was hitting home run's to help beat the Red Sox in 2006 while his replacement Coco Crisp' date=' spent 42 days on the disabled list. What extactly is your point?[/quote']

 

My point is that the Yankees would have been better off this year if they ponied up the whole $8 million it cost to sign Damon, than they were trading Austin Jackson, Ian Kennedy and Phil Coke for a hitter who's hit .225/.311/.375 for the Yankees and is going to be on the DL for the next month.

 

And it was clearly a mistake for the Red Sox to think that Coco Crisp would replace Damon's production as well.

[yankees228]

My point is that the Yankees would have been better off this year if they ponied up the whole $8 million it cost to sign Damon, than they were trading Austin Jackson, Ian Kennedy and Phil Coke for a hitter who's hit .225/.311/.375 for the Yankees and is going to be on the DL for the next month.

 

And it was clearly a mistake for the Red Sox to think that Coco Crisp would replace Damon's production as well.

 

Damon's price tag didn't come down to 8 million dollars when they still had room for him.

[Divinity]

My point is that the Yankees would have been better off this year if they ponied up the whole $8 million it cost to sign Damon, than they were trading Austin Jackson, Ian Kennedy and Phil Coke for a hitter who's hit .225/.311/.375 for the Yankees and is going to be on the DL for the next month.

 

And it was clearly a mistake for the Red Sox to think that Coco Crisp would replace Damon's production as well.

 

Boras was requesting a much larger contract then 1 year 8 million from the Yankees, after several months he lowered his demands to 2 years / 20 mill, and the Yankees offered him 2 years / 14 mill which he refused. So the Yankees had no choice but to fill there needs elsewhere. Not to mention they can easily sign Carl Crawford next year, who's better then Damon at this point should they choose to do so.

 

Also judging a players performance over one month, especially in April isn't really relevant. If you did that you would think Mark Teixeira and Jon Lester were horrible players

[yankees228]

As for the game tonight, overall, a tough a loss. I thought Mitre pitched better than his line indicates, as the first three runs were very soft.

 

They also really felt the weight of their injuries tonight, with Randy Winn hitting in the two biggest spots of the game, and Boone Logan having to get out the heart of the order (including two righties) in a two run game.

 

There were two positives tonight. David Robertson finally had a good outing, but even better, for the first time this year, Joba looked like the 2007 version of himself.

[Chamomile]

Boras was requesting a much larger contract then 1 year 8 million from the Yankees, after several months he lowered his demands to 2 years / 20 mill, and the Yankees offered him 2 years / 14 mill which he refused. So the Yankees had no choice but to fill there needs elsewhere. Not to mention they can easily sign Carl Crawford next year, who's better then Damon at this point should they choose to do so.

 

Also judging a players performance over one month, especially in April isn't really relevant. If you did that you would think Mark Teixeira and Jon Lester were horrible players

 

When has Boras ever actually gotten what he requested? The Yankees perhaps should have waited for Damon's price to come down and signed him to a one year deal. I'm not judging players by just a month. Even if Granderson had hit .300/.350/.500 in April and was on the DL for the next month, the Yankees would have been better off with Damon.

 

Every team makes mistakes in free agency. Look at the Red Sox and Teixeira.

[a700hitter]

Damon's price tag didn't come down to 8 million dollars when they still had room for him.

I thought that they signed Winn and Thames after Damon's price had come down.

[yankees228]

I thought that they signed Winn and Thames after Damon's price had come down.

 

Yeah, but they spent about three million dollars combined on those players, and they didn't have room for a starter (both Winn and Thames were signed to be backups).

[diony]

Juan Miranda called up to be the DH against RHP. Thames vs. LHP. At least they figured that out.

 

Winn should be the everyday LF. That's something they need to solve.

[jacksonianmarch]

Yep. Thames has convulsions when he faces righties for some reason. Miranda, interestingly enough, sucked vs lefties until last yr, when he hit them better than righties. Regardless, he'll add some left handed thunder to a lineup missing 2 starting left handed bats