Manny Ramirez Trade Deadline Thread (renamed)

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

16 hours to go...

[Beckett95]

if Manny is still here as of tomorow, i just hope and pray that he shutups up the rest of the year and busts his ass. not asking alot, just that. not hard to do manny.

 

up untill a couple days ago, Manny was my favorite player on the Sox. But he has just gotten out of control. So manny just shutup if nothing happens tomorow and play your last 2 months with the Sox.

 

ALSO, it would be nice if the media would just leave Manny alone for 2 moths to, instead of always s***ing on him.

[Cocos Disciples]

So I guess I'm constantly checking my cell phone tomorrow at work...

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

if Manny is still here as of tomorow, i just hope and pray that he shutups up the rest of the year and busts his ass. not asking alot, just that. not hard to do manny.

 

up untill a couple days ago, Manny was my favorite player on the Sox. But he has just gotten out of control. So manny just shutup if nothing happens tomorow and play your last 2 months with the Sox.

 

I don't think that will be an issue. He knows he'll be a FA at season's end, so why screw it up by deliberately poisoning the clubhouse and slacking on the field? $$$ on the line...

[Beckett95]

I don't think that will be an issue. He knows he'll be a FA at season's end' date=' so why screw it up by deliberately poisoning the clubhouse and slacking on the field? $$$ on the line...[/quote']

 

but according to Manny its not about the money, its about the peace...

 

...watever he means by that

[Beckett95]

holy s***, now the Palm Beach Post says that a deal has been agreed to and reached

 

The Marlins have reached a tentative agreement to acquire Manny Ramirez from Boston as part of a three-team deal that will send Jeremy Hermida and three Florida prospects to Pittsburgh, an American League source said Wednesday night.

 

Officials with the Marlins and Red Sox did not confirm the deal but the source said a tentative agreement was reached about 10 p.m. Wednesday.

 

The Marlins will get Ramirez for Hermida, right-hander Ryan Tucker and two other prospects, with those four players being flipped to Pittsburgh for outfielder Jason Bay and left-hander John Grabow.

 

The Red Sox will send the Marlins enough cash to cover the remainder of Ramirez contract, as well as an unnamed prospect.

 

Pittsburgh gets Hermida and two prospects - two from Florida and one from Boston. One of the Marlins' prospects is believed to be Tucker.

 

The Marlins were one of several teams the Red Sox had discussions with about the enigmatic outfielder.

 

The Red Sox were seeking a big right-handed hitter in return to protect David Ortiz in the lineup, something the Marlins could not offer. The trade with Pittsburgh met that need by bringing them Bay.

 

In an interview earlier Wednesday on radio station 790-AM, Marlins President David Samson did not rule out the possibility of a deal.

 

"We're spending all day to try to figure out a way to get better, to stay good, to try to figure out if we can win this thing,'' Samson said.

 

"We're trying everything," Samson went on to say. "We're looking everywhere. We are making calls, getting calls. We are not going to be stupid, though. We are not going to make a trade that hurts us in the coming years terribly. We are not going to make a trade where the cost is too much. But on the other hand you know us - we will do just about anything. So we are looking at stuff.''

 

Ramirez is earning $20 million this season, which is about $2 million less than the entire Marlins payroll.

 

Ramirez, who is represented by Scott Boras, is seeing a contract around $100 million for four years after his contract expires at season's end.

 

i honestly dont know what to believe anymore

[Gom]

You know something?

 

I have to say this:

 

You Red Sox fans are ungrateful [wait...fun police knocking on my door] son of a guns. See? I censored myself.

 

Manny came to play. He was a WS MVP. You don't win your first championship without him. You don't get past the Guardians on the way to your second championship without him. He's been worth every penny. His issues are not with the fans, but with the organization. He's been everything and more for you guys, and you boo him tonight at the game?

 

Sorry yeszir...but your fans are ungrateful *******s who did that. Trust me, in New York, he gets a standing ovation. Is it any wonder that the profile of stars goes from Boston to New York, and never the other way around?

 

As a Yankee fan, it's like seeing an old foe go. In a way, I'll be sad to see him go. He helped add to the rivalry. I'll miss the fear of seeing him at the plate wearing a Red Sox uniform. I'll miss secretly marveling at his talent when he beat us, and the relief and exhiliration when we got him out.

 

Good luck Manny, wherever you end up. They may not appreciate you in Boston, but we do in New York. You killed us, but we respected you for it. Good luck and godspeed.

[Cocos Disciples]

You know something?

 

I have to say this:

 

You Red Sox fans are ungrateful [wait...fun police knocking on my door] son of a guns. See? I censored myself.

 

Manny came to play. He was a WS MVP. You don't win your first championship without him. You don't get past the Guardians on the way to your second championship without him. He's been worth every penny. His issues are not with the fans, but with the organization. He's been everything and more for you guys, and you boo him tonight at the game?

 

Sorry yeszir...but your fans are ungrateful *******s who did that. Trust me, in New York, he gets a standing ovation. Is it any wonder that the profile of stars goes from Boston to New York, and never the other way around?

 

As a Yankee fan, it's like seeing an old foe go. In a way, I'll be sad to see him go. He helped add to the rivalry. I'll miss the fear of seeing him at the plate wearing a Red Sox uniform. I'll miss secretly marveling at his talent when he beat us, and the relief and exhiliration when we got him out.

 

Good luck Manny, wherever you end up. They may not appreciate you in Boston, but we do in New York. You killed us, but we respected you for it. Good luck and godspeed.

 

See my post in the GT. I really appreciate what Manny did.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

dammit

[mtbykr]

Listening to WEEI the Palm Beach report actually sounds legit

[Beckett95]

See my post in the GT. I really appreciate what Manny did.

 

I really appreciate what Manny did as well, and even though im ticked off at his recent s***, id be one of the first in line to thank him for everything he has done in Boston. Ill be sad to see him go, but at the same time its probally best for everyone involved to just move on seperately.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

You know something?

 

I have to say this:

 

You Red Sox fans are ungrateful [wait...fun police knocking on my door] son of a guns. See? I censored myself.

 

Manny came to play. He was a WS MVP. You don't win your first championship without him. You don't get past the Guardians on the way to your second championship without him. He's been worth every penny. His issues are not with the fans, but with the organization. He's been everything and more for you guys, and you boo him tonight at the game?

 

Sorry yeszir...but your fans are ungrateful *******s who did that. Trust me, in New York, he gets a standing ovation. Is it any wonder that the profile of stars goes from Boston to New York, and never the other way around?

 

As a Yankee fan, it's like seeing an old foe go. In a way, I'll be sad to see him go. He helped add to the rivalry. I'll miss the fear of seeing him at the plate wearing a Red Sox uniform. I'll miss secretly marveling at his talent when he beat us, and the relief and exhiliration when we got him out.

 

Good luck Manny, wherever you end up. They may not appreciate you in Boston, but we do in New York. You killed us, but we respected you for it. Good luck and godspeed.

 

 

I APPRECIATED him. And I'm more pissed than I've ever been with this team now that he appears to be gone. This is messed up. We got hosed.

[Gom]

Like I said, the fans who booed him are total idiots. They should have cheered him. That would have been a big F-U to the front office, where it deserves to be directed, not at Manny.

[BoSox34]

Lots of moving parts but a foundation for a deal seems to be in place with Manny to the Marlins' date=' Hermida to the Pirates and Bay to the Sox. Rumors have it that the sox may be in line to get Jack Wilson as well. If so, Lowrie is being discussed and another prospect as well, since Bay is cheaper, just as good and much younger than Manny[/quote']

 

Bay is younger and cheaper, however I do not think he is nearly the hitter that Manny is. I hope we get some good prospects out of this because if the base of the deal is just Manny for Bay, I think we're in the same place as we were yesterday, and maybe worse.

[Beckett95]

I APPRECIATED him. And I'm more pissed than I've ever been with this team now that he appears to be gone. This is messed up. We got hosed.

 

the more and more i think about, im really gonna miss seeing manny out there in lf from now on. i dont know why he had to be a dick this season, but thats what pisses me off the most. In a perfect world, id rather see Manny in left then Bay, but Manny just wont play here anymore. its a shame

[Beckett95]

Bay is younger and cheaper' date=' however I do not think he is nearly the hitter that Manny is. I hope we get some good prospects out of this because if the base of the deal is just Manny for Bay, I think we're in the same place as we were yesterday, and maybe worse.[/quote']

 

well right now it seems like we get Bay and Grabow for Manny, Hunter Jones, another prospect and alot of cash

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

the more and more i think about' date=' im really gonna miss seeing manny out there in lf from now on. i dont know why he had to be a dick this season, but thats what pisses me off the most. In a perfect world, id rather see Manny in left then Bay, but Manny just wont play here anymore. its a shame[/quote']

I don't believe that 'he wouldn't play here anymore'. If he stayed, things would have been resolved in due time. I really believe that.

[Beckett95]

I don't believe that 'he wouldn't play here anymore'. If he stayed' date=' things would have been resolved in due time. I really believe that.[/quote']

 

and im sure Theo and the organization wished that they could be 100% sure of that. But unfortunately, they cant and dont want anymore distractions anymore. I mean look how the teams done since these Manny wants out rumors have come up

[Beckett95]

i wish we could get Tucker and the Pirates kept Grabow

[BoSox34]

I wish we could get Cameron Maybin.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I wish we could get Cameron Maybin.

Never thought of that. We should've went after him.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

i wish it would end.

[mtbykr]

The Palm Beach Post reported that the Sox had reached a tentative agreement with the Marlins and Pirates in which Manny Ramirez would go to Florida, the Marlins would send OF Jeremy Hermidia to Piitsburgh as part of a multiplayer package, and the Sox would receive OF Jason Bay and LHP Josh Grabow. My sources tell me that is not true, a deal has not been struck, but the sides continue to talk.It may be getting close.

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/

[a700hitter]

Nothing new there.

[Beckett95]

In an article updated at 11:50 pm EDT, SI.com's Jon Heyman says that a deal between the Marlins and Red Sox for Manny Ramirez is close and that the teams have relayed their dealings to the commissioner's office.

 

That goes along with what Will Carroll wrote earlier. The Red Sox will need Bud Selig's approval since they're expected to pick up the $7 million that Ramirez is still owed as part of a deal.

 

rotoworld

 

Heymans a more trustworty source then Carroll, so now im really starting to believe this thing is all but done.

[riverside sluggers]

Holy s***, the Sox are actually closing in on a Manny trade?.

 

Mmm Jason Bay as a Red Sox, younger and cheaper with the Green Monster to aim for. And no "Bay moments" to get fans/media/ownership riled up

 

1. Pedroia 2b

2. Youkilis 1b

3. Ortiz dh

4. Bay lf

5. Lowell 3b

6. Drew rf

7. Lowrie ss

8. Varitek c

9. Ellsbury cf

[castigs850]

i hate that the redsox manny marriage is going to end in such a mess like this. IMO the best case scenerio is that the deal doesnt go through and manny shuts up and there's a clean break after the season. Manny has been my favorite redsox for a long time, and i dont know what's gotten into him lately but it will be very upsetting to see him leave town in this fashion. Especially seeing as just a few months ago people were questioning if he will get his number retired. This is such a miserable situation.

[schillingouttheks]

I just want this to be over. I'm getting sick of it, and apparently the team is too. When all is said and done, I want Manny in LF. He's being a huge dick throughout this process, but he belongs here. If he wants us to let him walk in the off-season, fine, but until 2008 is over, this is where he belongs. Thinking that I have seen Manny play his last game in a Red Sox uniform almost makes me sick. Bay and Grabow will not make up for the void.

[Beckett95]

i hate that the redsox manny marriage is going to end in such a mess like this. IMO the best case scenerio is that the deal doesnt go through and manny shuts up and there's a clean break after the season. Manny has been my favorite redsox for a long time' date=' and i dont know what's gotten into him lately but it will be very upsetting to see him leave town in this fashion. Especially seeing as just a few months ago people were questioning if he will get his number retired. This is such a miserable situation.[/quote']

 

i agree 100% with everything you just said.

 

but I dont think the sox front office has any faith in Manny shutting his mouth and not being a distraction the rest of the year

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I just want this to be over. I'm getting sick of it' date=' and apparently the team is too. When all is said and done, I want Manny in LF. He's being a huge dick throughout this process, but he belongs here. If he wants us to let him walk in the off-season, fine, but until 2008 is over, this is where he belongs. Thinking that I have seen Manny play his last game in a Red Sox uniform almost makes me sick. Bay and Grabow will not make up for the void.[/quote']

 

amen