Article: Hunter Greene, Rumored Red Sox Trade Target, Will Cost an Arm, A Leg, and More

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

37 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

The biggest problem with Sox development is the versatility nonsense they have focused on. Campbell should have just been left at 2b or sent to the OF. Develop him based on where he will succeed, not based on where the Sox need him. 

At school, I couldn't drum pencils on my desk without missing a beat, but there was an opening with a band that liked me. I know I wasn't tapped out, but then someone gave me a flutophone. I just started practicing when someone else handed me a triangle... but I dropped it.

I know I can improve my grip with some pinetar. Just don't ask me to be designated singer. Who keeps flashing the laser pointer-- the bell rang; was that the first bell or the late bell?

[notin]

14 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Yet somebody from the org apparently told Kristian Campbell that a year ago -- or at least the last line in Florida. 

And somehow it doesn't make sense that voice was from Alex Cora, a legitimately good major league infielder for 14 seasons of positive dWAR, who watched every prospect throughout Spring Training -- when it was obvious Marcelo Mayer outplayed KC on D.

Mayer outhit Campbell’s last ST as well.  But Campbell’s signed a reasonable extension…

[notin]

Sox Off-Season Trade Bait - Notin Edition*
 

1. Duran or Abreu and expect flip-flopping regularly on which makes more sense.

2. Brandon Clarke - Most questionable of the top prospects IMO. (Non-40 man status helps his value.)

3. Jhostnyxon “Password” Garcia.  Blocked prospect and keeping a BA Top 100 prospect as a fourth OF is a waste, especially in light of other needs.

4.  Jedixson Paez - Eligible for Rule 5 draft, but far enough away to not protect.  Might be selected based on potential, and if he is selected, his new team might be wise to complete a trade for him and allow him to continue in the minors.

 

 

*Not affiliated with the Boston Red Sox, who have a long history of eschewing these type of lists from Notin and making up their own mind on things purely out of spite…

[JoeBrady]

On 10/25/2025 at 6:17 AM, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Appreciate the concepts, but don't think Breslow, building around pitching, would trade six arms with upside in one winter -- even for those three.

The one deal that makes sense for Boston is the Alcantara swap, but would Miami go for two guys who haven't made comebacks yet? We do know previous Marlin regimes were interested in Casas...

The RS will likely only add one #2 type SP, and then maybe sign a lower-tier #4-5.

The Nats might trade Gore, but it would be for kids.  It would have to start with either Mayer+ or Campbell+.

[JoeBrady]

On 10/25/2025 at 11:21 AM, Dirtywater433 said:

I guess the Sox can keep him for depth, but it's not crazy to think that Houck and Casas being non tendered this off-season.

There is a -0- chance that Casas gets non-tendered.  He still has serious upside.  Traded?  Maybe.

Houck is close.  Assuming he is gone for 2026, and earns $8M for 26-27, he is probably worth keeping.

[mvp 78]

13 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

The RS will likely only add one #2 type SP, and then maybe sign a lower-tier #4-5.

The Nats might trade Gore, but it would be for kids.  It would have to start with either Mayer+ or Campbell+.

Gore is about on the same level as Bello to me. Not sure that really pushes the envelope for the Sox rotation, but it's fine. 

[JoeBrady]

On 10/25/2025 at 11:52 AM, notin said:

Of the typical big spenders, Alonso makes sense for the Red Sox, Mets, Giants, Phillies, and Angels.  
 

 

SF 'probably' goes with Eldridge, even though they promoted him about one year too early.  LAA will stick with Schanuel, and the Phillies still with Harper.  And we have little chance of out-bidding the Mets.  If the Mets pass on Alonso, we should really sign him, regardless of Casas' upside or downside.

[notin]

1 minute ago, JoeBrady said:

SF 'probably' goes with Eldridge, even though they promoted him about one year too early.  LAA will stick with Schanuel, and the Phillies still with Harper.  And we have little chance of out-bidding the Mets.  If the Mets pass on Alonso, we should really sign him, regardless of Casas' upside or downside.

None of those teams have anyone committed to a DH role.

Philly could also return Harper to the OF, where they are very thin.  They originally moved him to 1b after TJ surgery a few years ago.  Hes probably safe to return…

[JoeBrady]

16 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

The thing is, we can't afford to let him learn at the MLB level, at least at 2B. We can maybe hide him at 1B or LF, but even then, I'd like to see him play a few weeks/months at AAA first.

His best spot might be LF, but we have about 6 of those, not counting Masa.

He also needs to earn his way back at the plate, but I feel less insecaure about that aspect of his game.

I would not feel comfortable telling him, "You are our starting ____, so work hard over the winter and be ready for ST'ing. The job is yours to keep or lose."

We need to trade him.  We don't have a position for him and won't for a while.  And there is a decidedly non-zero chance he doesn't work out like we'd hope for a year ago.

[JoeBrady]

16 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Gore is about on the same level as Bello to me. Not sure that really pushes the envelope for the Sox rotation, but it's fine. 

You could easily be right.  Great talent, but mediocre results.  Maybe with a better pitching coach, of is he a head case?  And only two years left.  It's crazy how hot and cold he runs.

[moonslav59]

8 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

We need to trade him.  We don't have a position for him and won't for a while.  And there is a decidedly non-zero chance he doesn't work out like we'd hope for a year ago.

That's like a triple negative.

I'd be okay trading him, but there is a non-zero chance he doesn't has the same trade vale as last winter.

[JoeBrady]

11 minutes ago, notin said:

None of those teams have anyone committed to a DH role.

Philly could also return Harper to the OF, where they are very thin.  They originally moved him to 1b after TJ surgery a few years ago.  Hes probably safe to return…

I'm not sure how many teams commit a lot of money to DHs.  And I don't think Philly has the money for both Alonso and Schwarber.

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I'm not sure how many teams commit a lot of money to DHs.  And I don't think Philly has the money for both Alonso and Schwarber.

If the Mest don't bring Alonso back, I think Philly gets one and the other might be someone we can outbid other teams for, since the Dodgers probably won't sign a DH/1Bman type. They'll go for Tucker or Bichette and Cease or Framber.

[mvp 78]

22 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

You could easily be right.  Great talent, but mediocre results.  Maybe with a better pitching coach, of is he a head case?  And only two years left.  It's crazy how hot and cold he runs.

I can't fault anyone for throwing in the towel in WSH. Must be miserable there. LAA too. 

[Old Red]

19 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

If the Mest don't bring Alonso back, I think Philly gets one and the other might be someone we can outbid other teams for, since the Dodgers probably won't sign a DH/1Bman type. They'll go for Tucker or Bichette and Cease or Framber.

The Red Sox are going to outbid other teams for someone?🤫

[notin]

32 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I'm not sure how many teams commit a lot of money to DHs.  And I don't think Philly has the money for both Alonso and Schwarber.

Schwarber might not be back.  Until he re-signs with Philly, he is a free agent. (Technically he doesn’t declare until after the World Series, but it’s a foregone conclusion since his optionless deal expired.)

Team certainly commit lots of money to DHs.   It’s working out quite well for the Dodgers, for example.   And whoever signs Schwarber will be commiting a lot of money to a DH…

[moonslav59]

8 minutes ago, Old Red said:

The Red Sox are going to outbid other teams for someone?🤫

They did for Bregman, Buehler, Chapman, Sandoval, Giolito and some lesser FAs under Brez, but as of yet- no major signing beyond $40M/1 for Breggie.

I'll say it again, I expect nothing, this winter, but that does not mean I wont suggest things we should be able to do.

We may very well spend $25-40M AAV, this winter. Maybe it will continue to be just 1-2 year deals, but I'm suggesting we go large on 2-3 guys not mildly significantly on 4-5.

That will likely mean we go long on at least one guy, in order to get top quality, but maybe we get two more Breggie type deals, instead. (I'm highly doubtful they follow my suggestions.)

[Old Red]

4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

They did for Bregman, Buehler, Chapman, Sandoval, Giolito and some lesser FAs under Brez, but as of yet- no major signing beyond $40M/1 for Breggie.

I'll say it again, I expect nothing, this winter, but that does not mean I wont suggest things we should be able to do.

We may very well spend $25-40M AAV, this winter. Maybe it will continue to be just 1-2 year deals, but I'm suggesting we go large on 2-3 guys not mildly significantly on 4-5.

That will likely mean we go long on at least one guy, in order to get top quality, but maybe we get two more Breggie type deals, instead. (I'm highly doubtful they follow my suggestions.)

I was thinking of outbidding someone of the likes of Flintstone, and Alonso that will take more money, and more years than the ones you mentioned. 

[drewski6]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Gore is about on the same level as Bello to me. Not sure that really pushes the envelope for the Sox rotation, but it's fine. 

Im NOT giving up mayer for him.

[moonslav59]

25 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I was thinking of outbidding someone of the likes of Flintstone, and Alonso that will take more money, and more years than the ones you mentioned. 

I hope we go hard after Alonso. Schwarber would be okay, although he's a DH. (Alonso should be, too.)

Suarez or Bichette would help, but are more like sideways moves from Bregman.

[drewski6]

1 hour ago, notin said:

None of those teams have anyone committed to a DH role.

Philly could also return Harper to the OF, where they are very thin.  They originally moved him to 1b after TJ surgery a few years ago.  Hes probably safe to return…

Hes become very good devensively at first base, just throwing that out there. NOt saying that it would necessarily stop them.

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

Im NOT giving up mayer for him.

How about Campbell & Clarke (maybe add Sandlin)

Garcia, Arias and Sandlin?

[drewski6]

39 minutes ago, notin said:

Schwarber might not be back.  Until he re-signs with Philly, he is a free agent. (Technically he doesn’t declare until after the World Series, but it’s a foregone conclusion since his optionless deal expired.)

Team certainly commit lots of money to DHs.   It’s working out quite well for the Dodgers, for example.   And whoever signs Schwarber will be commiting a lot of money to a DH…

I have no problem with it. If anything, Schwarber having a DH title attached to him may keep his price reasonable. 

Would rather target somebody whose price is dampened from being a DH only then being hurt like Sandoval, paxton

[drewski6]

IF we're being honest, there is a sizeable gap between Schwarbers bat and alonsos.  

I dont care as much as some about defensive fit.

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

I have no problem with it. If anything, Schwarber having a DH title attached to him may keep his price reasonable. 

Would rather target somebody whose price is dampened from being a DH only then being hurt like Sandoval, paxton

He'll cost way more than Sandoval plus Paxton, but I agree. We need a major power bat. Position is secondary.

[mvp 78]

11 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Im NOT giving up mayer for him.

Not Mayer. Campbell? 

[Old Red]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

The biggest problem with Sox development is the versatility nonsense they have focused on. Campbell should have just been left at 2b or sent to the OF. Develop him based on where he will succeed, not based on where the Sox need him. 

Agree 1000%. I said back in ST that if Campbell was going to be the Red Sox 2B he should be strictly play 2B, and not spending time in the OF. Especially since Campbell doesn’t have that good of a glove to begin with. He Still doesn’t have a position either.

[drewski6]

6 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Not Mayer. Campbell? 

for mackenzie gore? yes, because i care a lot about pedigree and gore was drafted 3 overall.

[drewski6]

im not a "your draft position" immediately becomes irrelevant or your "prospect status immediately becomes irrelevant" type of guy ,but I get the argument.  

I just lean towards once high draft picks/top prospects , even if they havent lived up to it by the time they are say, 25 years old (ish) - I still believe that in many cases the former top prospects/draft picks have a higher than most chance of regaining / breaking out.

Lot of those stories. Dude is expected to be a stud but struggles getting to the show and is close to being deemed a bust, but then figures it out, just took a little extra time.

[drewski6]

complaining about baseball players being moved around is like complaining about nba teams shooting more 3s.

modernize.