Pirates (Oviedo) vs Red Sox (May): 8/30/25, 4:10pm

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19 hours ago, Duran Is The Man said:

the Dodgers get the best of the Sox every time they do a deal. every time.

Huh?

Our return was headlined by a guy with a .761 OPS in AA…

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20 hours ago, iortiz said:

Cmon nothin, putting in the same sentence May and Ryan is nonsense. You are way better than this. 

It’s a one month sample.  Ryan is a better pitcher overall, but he hasn’t been that much better since that trade

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19 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Manny for Jason Bay (3 teamer)???

They also stole Carl Crawford and Nick Punto from us…

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

17 minutes ago, notin said:

They also stole Carl Crawford and Nick Punto from us…

If you put something on the curb in front of your house with a free sign on it and someone takes it, that's not stealing.

[moonslav59]

30 minutes ago, notin said:

Huh?

Our return was headlined by a guy with a .761 OPS in AA…

Tibbs & Ehrhard for D May

Brasier released & signed by LAD

Kike for Justin Hagenman & Nick Robertson (later traded for T O'Neill)

Betts & half-Price for Downs, Wong & Verdugo (later traded for Fitts, Weissert & Judice)

AGon, Beckett, Crawford & Punto for Webster, de la Rosa, Sands & Loney (The "Quarter Billion Trade.")

Manny & C Hansen for Jason Bay (3 team)

Stephen Fife for Erik Bedard & Josh Fields (3 team)

Henri Stanley for Dave Roberts

Did I miss some?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

43 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Tibbs & Ehrhard for D May

Brasier released & signed by LAD

Kike for Justin Hagenman & Nick Robertson (later traded for T O'Neill)

Betts & half-Price for Downs, Wong & Verdugo (later traded for Fitts, Weissert & Judice)

AGon, Beckett, Crawford & Punto for Webster, de la Rosa, Sands & Loney (The "Quarter Billion Trade.")

Manny & C Hansen for Jason Bay (3 team)

Stephen Fife for Erik Bedard & Josh Fields (3 team)

Henri Stanley for Dave Roberts

Did I miss some?

If the Dodgers hadn't taken Agon, Beckett, Crawford, there probably wouldn't have been a 2013 championship.

[moonslav59]

40 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

If the Dodgers hadn't taken Agon, Beckett, Crawford, there probably wouldn't have been a 2013 championship.

Yup! It was the greatest no valuable return trade in MLB history.

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11 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Yup! It was the greatest no valuable return trade in MLB history.

There's no shame in calling it a salary dump.

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1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

There's no shame in calling it a salary dump.

Oh yes there is. It wasn’t a salary dump; it was The Salary Dump…

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

There's no shame in calling it a salary dump.

I have called it that, and it was the highest amount of salary dumped in any trade in MLB history... maybe all sports.

I also wanted to stress the point about the return not mattering. As with the Devers trade, it wasn't really about high expectations for anyone we got back in the trade, although some hopes were present in both trades. Webster and de la Rosa both had promise. Webster made it to #3 on sp.com's site. We've already traded away Tibbs, but Harrison probably had the highest promise of anyone in the return. He has yet to pitch for the big club.

I had expected us to spend more, that winter after the mega dump trade, but the mid level guys we got: Napoli, Victorino, Dempster & S Drew did well enough to help us win the 2013 ring.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, notin said:

Oh yes there is. It wasn’t a salary dump; it was The Salary Dump…

The Dodger dump was bigger, when you factor in inflation.