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Marcelo Mayer is set to miss the remainder of the 2025 season, as he will be having surgery on the wrist that landed him on the injured list in late July. Alex Cora noted that the injury requires a three-month recovery, so Mayer will be ready for spring training in 2026. 

Mac Cerullo went on to note that this injury is the same injury Mayer suffered in 2022, but that this most recent injury is worse. Mayer hoped that a shot that he received would help get him through the season, but he said he knew surgery was always likely. 

Marcelo Mayer was called up as Alex Bregman’s replacement after Bregman was placed on the injured list earlier in the season. The rookie performed well defensively for the team while leaving a bit to be desired offensively. After his recovery, Mayer should hit the ground running and be in contention for a spot on the 2026 Opening Day roster. 


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Damn! This one hurts.

Now, we'll need Rafaela at 2B FT or near FT. While that helps clear a way for the other OF'ers to play as much as they should, it forces Yoshida to play DH FT. That has not been awful, of late (.531 first 12 games and .900 last 11 games.)

It's not the end of the world, and 1B is our biggest need, right now, but 2B defense seems to be an issue, again, and Rafaela started slumping after his move to 2B, too. I'm not sure that will continue, but his D is a known at 2B, pretty much.

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Mayer being injury-prone is the reason I didn't want Arias traded this year. 

But I think Arias will still be part of a big deal this winter, now that Boston Story is finally Colorado Trevor (AL Comeback Player of the Year?).

There's no question, though, the Sox were a better team with Mayer somewhere on the diamond -- and that included since Spring Training, where he proved he was a big league defender...

... unlike Campbell, who didn't prove a thing except that minor league stats do matter. At least to the front office -- until they change their minds...

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Injury prone is a label Mayer's earned before this season.  Boston has put their eggs in ONE basket named Mayer for SS in the future and it's a HUGE mistake.  The word unreliable comes to mind when I think of Mayer.  He had a blah minor league performance since being drafted in 2021 until he finally broke-out in 2024 and promptly got hurt yet again and missed his AAA experience that Campbell and Anthony participated in.  Mayer started 2025 doing well in Spring Training and then mouthed off about how he deserved to make the team.  That's a great insight into who this privileged kid is.  It's got to be killing him that Anthony has proven to be a far greater stud than he was supposed to be as the 4th pick in the draft.

His performance in AAA this season prior to being promoted was no great shakes and now that Campbell has been in AAA as long as Mayer, he has better numbers yet remains in AAA while Toro, Gonzalez and Narvaez are all failing to hit in the second half. 

Campbell's future got screwed up by Cora when he converted a SS to 2B to OF and then 1B all while starting off on fire with his hitting.  As we are observing right now, players don't hit as well when they are stressed out not playing their normal position.  Rafaela can't hit when he plays 2B and Campbell stopped hitting when he got stuck trying to move to 1B because Story was playing well which forced the injury prone Mayer to 2B and wrongfully pushed Campbell out.  The Minor League Player of the Year is being treated like crap by Cora and the fan base should be screaming to remove Cora for all his mistakes and prejudice.  Campbell outperformed Mayer on defense at SS and 2B in the minors and would have in the MLB had he not been jerked around and asked to play 3 other positions other than the new one he was learning.  Campbell is a great athlete and has accomplished so much more than Mayer since he was drafted just 2 years ago that it's a travesty what Cora is doing to him.

Mayer should NOT be the future at SS in BOS and if Campbell is going to be forced into a different position based on the biased choices of Cora then let him learn JUST ONE position and leave him there so he can be the best possible player he can be at that position.  He's not a utility player like Cora, he's a legitimate star as he proved in 2024.  Stop messing with and let him settle in at one position that will help the Red Sox the most and watch him grow into an all-star.

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7 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Mayer being injury-prone is the reason I didn't want Arias traded this year. 

But I think Arias will still be part of a big deal this winter, now that Boston Story is finally Colorado Trevor (AL Comeback Player of the Year?).

There's no question, though, the Sox were a better team with Mayer somewhere on the diamond -- and that included since Spring Training, where he proved he was a big league defender...

... unlike Campbell, who didn't prove a thing except that minor league stats do matter. At least to the front office -- until they change their minds...

We may keep Arias, as Story has just 2 years of control remaining, and Arias may not be ready until 2027 or 2028. Plus, we can move Story to 2B, if he becomes ready. Mayer is an injury concern or can play 3B, if Bregman bolts.

My guess is we keep Romero around, too. He'll be Rule 5 in 2026, so no hurry on him.

I think we'll trade an OF'er, even if it's Jh Garcia, but unless the plan is to rid ourselves of Yoshida, where can all 4 OF'ers play? We could try to add DHam or Grissom to the deal, but some teams may not want them for free, as they will have winter roster crunches, too. I think we will trade a package for a #2 type pitcher (Ryan) or a #3 type (Keller.) Since we will be getting a 3 year controlled pitcher, we will add some pitching prospects to the package, but not Tolle, and hopefully not Valera. Maybe 1 from Clarke, Early or Perales and 1 to 2 from Rule 5's: Sandlin, Mullins, Paez or Uberstine.

My guess is...

Duran, Campbell, Clarke, Paez & Sandlin for Ryan & K Clemens

or

Abreu, Early and Sandlin or Mullins for Keller

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Next season the Sox infield could be Bregman, Story, Mayer and Casas. It'll be interesting to see which one goes on the IL first.

Maybe which ONE, does not by June 1st.

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11 minutes ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

Injury prone is a label Mayer's earned before this season.  Boston has put their eggs in ONE basket named Mayer for SS in the future and it's a HUGE mistake.  The word unreliable comes to mind when I think of Mayer.  He had a blah minor league performance since being drafted in 2021 until he finally broke-out in 2024 and promptly got hurt yet again and missed his AAA experience that Campbell and Anthony participated in.  Mayer started 2025 doing well in Spring Training and then mouthed off about how he deserved to make the team.  That's a great insight into who this privileged kid is.  It's got to be killing him that Anthony has proven to be a far greater stud than he was supposed to be as the 4th pick in the draft.

His performance in AAA this season prior to being promoted was no great shakes and now that Campbell has been in AAA as long as Mayer, he has better numbers yet remains in AAA while Toro, Gonzalez and Narvaez are all failing to hit in the second half. 

Campbell's future got screwed up by Cora when he converted a SS to 2B to OF and then 1B all while starting off on fire with his hitting.  As we are observing right now, players don't hit as well when they are stressed out not playing their normal position.  Rafaela can't hit when he plays 2B and Campbell stopped hitting when he got stuck trying to move to 1B because Story was playing well which forced the injury prone Mayer to 2B and wrongfully pushed Campbell out.  The Minor League Player of the Year is being treated like crap by Cora and the fan base should be screaming to remove Cora for all his mistakes and prejudice.  Campbell outperformed Mayer on defense at SS and 2B in the minors and would have in the MLB had he not been jerked around and asked to play 3 other positions other than the new one he was learning.  Campbell is a great athlete and has accomplished so much more than Mayer since he was drafted just 2 years ago that it's a travesty what Cora is doing to him.

Mayer should NOT be the future at SS in BOS and if Campbell is going to be forced into a different position based on the biased choices of Cora then let him learn JUST ONE position and leave him there so he can be the best possible player he can be at that position.  He's not a utility player like Cora, he's a legitimate star as he proved in 2024.  Stop messing with and let him settle in at one position that will help the Red Sox the most and watch him grow into an all-star.

Did Mayer kill your dog? You seem to have an obsessive dislike for the guy.

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Just now, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Is that the projected return of Casas?

I've read opening day for Casas and Mayer.

I'd say Bregman is the best bet to stay healthy, followed by (gasp) Story, then Mayer & Casas are tied.

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23 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Did Mayer kill your dog? You seem to have an obsessive dislike for the guy.

Mayer didn't "mouth off" -- a reporter asked him if he thought he should make the team and he answered the question. He could've just nodded, but then someone would say he nodded off.

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56 minutes ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

Injury prone is a label Mayer's earned before this season.  Boston has put their eggs in ONE basket named Mayer for SS in the future and it's a HUGE mistake.  The word unreliable comes to mind when I think of Mayer.  He had a blah minor league performance since being drafted in 2021 until he finally broke-out in 2024 and promptly got hurt yet again and missed his AAA experience that Campbell and Anthony participated in.  Mayer started 2025 doing well in Spring Training and then mouthed off about how he deserved to make the team.  That's a great insight into who this privileged kid is.  It's got to be killing him that Anthony has proven to be a far greater stud than he was supposed to be as the 4th pick in the draft.

His performance in AAA this season prior to being promoted was no great shakes and now that Campbell has been in AAA as long as Mayer, he has better numbers yet remains in AAA while Toro, Gonzalez and Narvaez are all failing to hit in the second half. 

Campbell's future got screwed up by Cora when he converted a SS to 2B to OF and then 1B all while starting off on fire with his hitting.  As we are observing right now, players don't hit as well when they are stressed out not playing their normal position.  Rafaela can't hit when he plays 2B and Campbell stopped hitting when he got stuck trying to move to 1B because Story was playing well which forced the injury prone Mayer to 2B and wrongfully pushed Campbell out.  The Minor League Player of the Year is being treated like crap by Cora and the fan base should be screaming to remove Cora for all his mistakes and prejudice.  Campbell outperformed Mayer on defense at SS and 2B in the minors and would have in the MLB had he not been jerked around and asked to play 3 other positions other than the new one he was learning.  Campbell is a great athlete and has accomplished so much more than Mayer since he was drafted just 2 years ago that it's a travesty what Cora is doing to him.

Mayer should NOT be the future at SS in BOS and if Campbell is going to be forced into a different position based on the biased choices of Cora then let him learn JUST ONE position and leave him there so he can be the best possible player he can be at that position.  He's not a utility player like Cora, he's a legitimate star as he proved in 2024.  Stop messing with and let him settle in at one position that will help the Red Sox the most and watch him grow into an all-star.

I think it's a reach to blame Cora and the position changes for Campbell's inability to put the bat on the ball after the hot start.

Posted
30 minutes ago, Yaz Fan Since 67 said:

I think it's a reach to blame Cora and the position changes for Campbell's inability to put the bat on the ball after the hot start.

First time reading one of his novels?  Same plot over and over.  He has an insane man crush on Campbell, an intense dislike for anyone he perceives is blocking Campbell’s greatness as a shortstop, a pathological hatred of Cora and if you disagree with him, you are stupid and know nothing about baseball.

Most of us have simply stopped responding to him.  I think he has half the board blocked.  
 

 

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2 minutes ago, illinoisredsox said:

First time reading one of his novels?  Same plot over and over.  He has an insane man crush on Campbell, an intense dislike for anyone he perceives is blocking Campbell’s greatness as a shortstop, a pathological hatred of Cora and if you disagree with him, you know nothing about baseball.

Good to know.  

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7 hours ago, Yaz Fan Since 67 said:

I think it's a reach to blame Cora and the position changes for Campbell's inability to put the bat on the ball after the hot start.

If Campbell sucked at 2B, he'd most likely suck worse at SS.

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9 hours ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Did Mayer kill your dog? You seem to have an obsessive dislike for the guy.

All we've heard about over the last couple of years are Mayer and Anthony.  I understood the praise for Anthony based on his performance stats and watching him, but I have never agreed with all the hype about Mayer.  His stats were far below expectations for a 4th pick in the draft, if you compare him to others in the first round of the same draft (like Cowser and others) he's been a huge disappointment.  I watch him play and he has good athleticism but poor performance on defense.  He's a showcase guy not a reliable shortstop.  He proves it every year and that's why his fielding percentage in the minors was barely above Devers!!!  Yes, the worst 3B in history and his minor league success rate at getting outs on balls hit to him was roughly 15% below league average but his athleticism made fans overlook all his mistakes because he's athletic and smooth with a solid arm. 

I believe performance is more important that athleticism, so I consider him grossly over-rated and when I saw Meidroth and his numbers I laughed at the fact that he was an ugly looking player from an athleticism standpoint but had outperformed Mayer as a complete nobody.  Fans hated me stating the facts because BOS has marketed the crap out of Mayer. 

The NESN Clowns who get to market concepts to millions of BOS fans couldn't stop going on about how great a defender this .952 fielding percentage player is and how he will be the best infielder defender for the next 10 years.  Horsecrap!!!!   He had 928 total chances in the minors at SS and made 44 errors.  He only had 15 total chances at 3B and 45 total chances at 2B in the minors so he was truly a full time SS ONLY.  In the majors he's had 68 chances at 3B where Bregman plays so his performance is irrelevant since he won't be playing there while Bregman is around, he's been pushed to 2B by Cora where he had 29 total chances without an error after having 45 total chances in the minors with 3 errors.  So the NESN Clowns bragged about how great a fielder this guy was at two positions without even having 100 total chances at the two positions together after he sucked in the minors at his SS position.  That's complete horsecrap.

That's why I highlight Mayer's crap performance so much.  The propaganda about him is disgusting.  The media is NOT telling the truth about his defensive skills; they are grossly exaggerating them.  I just want the public to know the truth.  That's all.  Mayer doesn't control the BS spewed by NESN and the front office, so I don't blame him.   They play down his annual injuries which is concerning now that it's happened 4 of 5 seasons.  

In the meantime, guys like Duran, Rafaela and Campbell don't get the Public Relations support of Mayers and Anthony.  That's completely unfair.  If ONLY Anthony was being shoved down fans throats, I would be fine with that because he is the best prospect by far but when other players like Mayer and Abreu get false support from the PR department, I constantly try to set the record straight by listing THEIR ACTUAL STATS not the crap the NESN clowns comment on during game broadcasts.

So, no obsessive dislike for the player, just an obsessive dislike for the misinformation spread by the PR dept and NESN.  The kid and his family seem like great people.  Let his performance do the talking and let there be objective opinions about his performance by the media.  That's all.  Another year or two of injuries and he'll be a modern-day Bob Horner who was also a first-round pick that played 10 years and averaged 102 games a season thanks to injuries.

Posted
9 hours ago, Yaz Fan Since 67 said:

I think it's a reach to blame Cora and the position changes for Campbell's inability to put the bat on the ball after the hot start.

Seriously?  Did you ever play baseball above the HS level?  Go look up how many players struggled when after playing one position for years they got moved to somewhere else and their hitting dropped off.  Heck, it's happening to Mookie Betts this year.  Cora is an idiot, and his moves hurt his players ALL THE TIME.  He should be fired for lack of baseball knowledge and his inability to relate to prospects.  He's damaged the performances of Duran, Rafaela and now Campbell.  That's unacceptable.  Throw in his inability to handle in-game situations as a manager, and he's the worst manager in baseball.  I rank him below Don Zimmer and Bobby Valentine!!!

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When NESN voices like Lou Merloni, Will Middlebrooks and Lenny DiNardo praise the defense of Marcelo Mayer, they're not using statistics.

There are no numbers that quantify "cool, calm and in control" -- words that these former BIG LEAGUERS used to describe Mayer all year. They don't need to make him look better, because they know what they are looking at.

They also didn't denigrate Kristian Campbell with adjectives like "clunky" or "nervous" because they didn't have to -- not when we all could see it on our televisions. The polite way to assess a young player who may not be ready for the majors is to say "the game speeds up on him fast."

Everything I just wrote is of course common knowledge for anyone who ever played the game beyond Little League.

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10 hours ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

Seriously?  Did you ever play baseball above the HS level?  Go look up how many players struggled when after playing one position for years they got moved to somewhere else and their hitting dropped off.  Heck, it's happening to Mookie Betts this year.  Cora is an idiot, and his moves hurt his players ALL THE TIME.  He should be fired for lack of baseball knowledge and his inability to relate to prospects.  He's damaged the performances of Duran, Rafaela and now Campbell.  That's unacceptable.  Throw in his inability to handle in-game situations as a manager, and he's the worst manager in baseball.  I rank him below Don Zimmer and Bobby Valentine!!!

 

I do not believe it is a requirement to have played haseball above the high school level to know that you are wrong.

 

Mookie came up as an infielder, was switched to the outfield and became one of the best 2 baseabll players in the world.  

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Rafaela has NEVER played a professional season where he didn't play the IF. He began his career as a MIF guy. He tried CF as an experiment in '19 that worked. Blaming his offensive woes on Cora is wild. Rafaela will always be a rollercoaster offensive guy due to his whiff rate. He has sky high talent and can reach nearly every ball, but has zero idea what to lay off of. It's been that way for years and isn't going to change. Not Cora's fault.

Campbell played 5 defensive positions prior to even showing up to Spring Training this year. Cora never put him at a position he had never played before. Be upset at the org, not Cora. Not sure Cora is at fault for Campbell's terrible defensive performance at 2b/SS, which caused the Sox to move him around the field to begin with. 

I don't even know what to say about the Duran stuff. There is such a small difference between LF and CF that if his production falls off because he's shifted over, he needs to go elsewhere. He hasn't been very impressive in CF this season anyway. Duran has always had some questions about his defense. He's just not a natural out there. They've worked on it for years and he doesn't really track balls well or get good jump. He uses his quickness to catch up to balls, but that is going to eventually not be there. 

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I try to be a little careful when I post here because I know many of my limitations.  I am absolutely not immersed in analytical metrics.  I do rely on such things as the box scores to tell me a story often.  My eyes are still very good so I do rely on my eye test to help me.  I’m very surprised that anyone who has watched Mayer play doesn’t think that he is an above average fielder.  Better than Campbell at this time - of course - no big deal Campbell will be fine in time.  Now is Mayer quick enough to become an all-star ss -  I don’t know - maybe maybe not.  I hope that he can become injury free some day because I want to see him in our infield.

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12 minutes ago, cp176 said:

I try to be a little careful when I post here because I know many of my limitations.  I am absolutely not immersed in analytical metrics.  I do rely on such things as the box scores to tell me a story often.  My eyes are still very good so I do rely on my eye test to help me.  I’m very surprised that anyone who has watched Mayer play doesn’t think that he is an above average fielder.  Better than Campbell at this time - of course - no big deal Campbell will be fine in time.  Now is Mayer quick enough to become an all-star ss -  I don’t know - maybe maybe not.  I hope that he can become injury free some day because I want to see him in our infield.

With Mayer, it's ALWAYS been a question about injuries. He's been very smooth in the field and looked natural at 2b, SS, 3b. If he could stay healthy, he'd be a starter in the league for a long time. 

He struggles vs LHP and offspeed stuff, but has a few years to figure it out. 

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58 minutes ago, Yaz Fan Since 67 said:

 

I do not believe it is a requirement to have played haseball above the high school level to know that you are wrong.

 

Mookie came up as an infielder, was switched to the outfield and became one of the best 2 baseabll players in the world.  

First, it's clear you are inexperienced in baseball and have some very naive beliefs about the game so I will be very specific about why your opinion doesn't support standard baseball thinking.

If you had played, you'd realize what it takes to change positions mid-season and how frustrating it is to not be as good at your second position on defense as you are at your first position.  That frustration eats into your hitting.

Next, Mookie played 2B in the minors at ages 18 to 20 (12 years ago).  Yes in 2011 he was a SS, then in 2012 split time at SS and 2B at LOW A, then in 2013 he played 2B at A, Hi-A and the AFL and only played 1 game at SS his 20-year-old season.  At 21 he went to MLB for BOS and played 1219 games at OF including with the Dodgers.  He then got moved to SS in 2023 for 16 games because Roberts is as dumb as Cora as a manager.  The arm injuries that can stem from changing arm angles on throws mid-season can be devastating.  Torn labrums, rotator cuffs and TJ surgery can result.  That's why changing positions usually happens in the off season when you can make thousands of throws over a 6-month period.

Mookie's full time move to SS in 2025 has resulted in his worst hitting season EVER.  Yes, he was an infielder 12 years ago but it's not like riding a bicycle, hours and hours of practice to be as good at SS as he was a RF is the way Mookie approaches the game as a perfectionist.  Clearly, his focus being shifted has impacted his hitting.  By next year, I fully expect his hitting numbers to rebound as he settles in at SS with a comparable skill level to his RF skill level.

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1 hour ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

First, it's clear you are inexperienced in baseball and have some very naive beliefs about the game so I will be very specific about why your opinion doesn't support standard baseball thinking.

If you had played, you'd realize what it takes to change positions mid-season and how frustrating it is to not be as good at your second position on defense as you are at your first position.  That frustration eats into your hitting.

Next, Mookie played 2B in the minors at ages 18 to 20 (12 years ago).  Yes in 2011 he was a SS, then in 2012 split time at SS and 2B at LOW A, then in 2013 he played 2B at A, Hi-A and the AFL and only played 1 game at SS his 20-year-old season.  At 21 he went to MLB for BOS and played 1219 games at OF including with the Dodgers.  He then got moved to SS in 2023 for 16 games because Roberts is as dumb as Cora as a manager.  The arm injuries that can stem from changing arm angles on throws mid-season can be devastating.  Torn labrums, rotator cuffs and TJ surgery can result.  That's why changing positions usually happens in the off season when you can make thousands of throws over a 6-month period.

Mookie's full time move to SS in 2025 has resulted in his worst hitting season EVER.  Yes, he was an infielder 12 years ago but it's not like riding a bicycle, hours and hours of practice to be as good at SS as he was a RF is the way Mookie approaches the game as a perfectionist.  Clearly, his focus being shifted has impacted his hitting.  By next year, I fully expect his hitting numbers to rebound as he settles in at SS with a comparable skill level to his RF skill level.

It seems you're not quite as well informed as you think.  You completely left out 2024.

Mookie played more shortstop than outfield in 2024 and his hitting was just fine when he played there.

SS 280 PA 308/407/500

RF 179 PA 273/324/516

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5 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

It seems you're not quite as well informed as you think.  You completely left out 2024.

Mookie played more shortstop than outfield in 2024 and his hitting was just fine when he played there.

SS 280 PA 308/407/500

RF 179 PA 273/324/516

This season seems more to do with the offseason illness he had and not really being able to come back from it. Once you are in the middle of the season, it's very hard to put weight back on. I think he was behind the 8 ball after he lost 20 lbs in ST. 

He's still put up 2.7 bWAR in this terrible no good very bad season. 11 DRS at SS! 

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6 hours ago, cp176 said:

I try to be a little careful when I post here because I know many of my limitations.  I am absolutely not immersed in analytical metrics.  I do rely on such things as the box scores to tell me a story often.  My eyes are still very good so I do rely on my eye test to help me.  I’m very surprised that anyone who has watched Mayer play doesn’t think that he is an above average fielder.  Better than Campbell at this time - of course - no big deal Campbell will be fine in time.  Now is Mayer quick enough to become an all-star ss -  I don’t know - maybe maybe not.  I hope that he can become injury free some day because I want to see him in our infield.

Id bet my left you-know-what that Mayer will be more than twice the defender Campbell ever can be as an infielder. He may be better on D at SS than Story is, and I love Story's D. Maybe by 2026 or 2027, Story will be at 2B and Mayer at SS.

Mayer needs to play 145+ games. Period. It's very hard to win a job playing even 100 games.

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9 hours ago, Yaz Fan Since 67 said:

 

I do not believe it is a requirement to have played haseball above the high school level to know that you are wrong.

 

Mookie came up as an infielder, was switched to the outfield and became one of the best 2 baseabll players in the world.  

You are about to be belittled by a so called “superior baseball mind” (his words, not mine).  Your sin?, You disagreed with him.

He is absolutely convinced that every scout, team executive, coach and manager (you know, the people who get paid to evaluate players) is an idiot if they don’t see things as he does.

Edit - I see the belittling has already occurred, should have scrolled down.

Posted
5 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

It seems you're not quite as well informed as you think.  You completely left out 2024.

Mookie played more shortstop than outfield in 2024 and his hitting was just fine when he played there.

SS 280 PA 308/407/500

RF 179 PA 273/324/516

Oh he knew it, it just didn’t fit his narrative.

Posted
On 8/18/2025 at 12:18 PM, Bellhorn04 said:

It seems you're not quite as well informed as you think.  You completely left out 2024.

Mookie played more shortstop than outfield in 2024 and his hitting was just fine when he played there.

SS 280 PA 308/407/500

RF 179 PA 273/324/516

Again, cherry picking and insults.  That's always been the issue with you.  Your response has nothing to do with my comment it's just a cheap shot that is irrelevant and your ignorant friends who gave you thumbs up on your other cheap shot of me shows you are the primary instigator of the abuse.  You should be removed as a moderator and frankly from the site too.

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