Sox to call up Roman Anthony

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, notin said:

That’s fair.  But it’s also a tone shift, by which I mean you moved the goal posts.  I mean, I’d probably have voted for Raleigh, too.  But this was never about who we would have voted for.

I was countering the point someone made that Raleigh clearly deserved MVP and Judge only won due to Yankee bias.  I disagree and can clearly see Judge winning based solely on the monster season he had.

No one ever said  WAR was the end-all-be-all, but it stands head and shoulders over that boring old criticism of WAR accompanied by nothing.  No stat is the end-all-be-all.  But WAR is one of the better ones.…

YOU set the WAR goalposts, nobody else. I just said Cal deserved it and am giving a reason. I don’t need to provide explanations for other posters.

[moonslav59]

5 hours ago, Duran Is The Man said:

a lot of reasons to be hopeful for the next several years for sure. though, i'm not sure about the farm. the recent graduation and trading of several top prospects leaves us with one player in the Top 250 -Franklin Arias. 

Tolle & Early have not gradutaed.

Witherspoon is top 80-100 in a few rankings.

Gonzales, Valera and or Phillips may crack the top 100, this summer/fall.

[jad]

21 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

The key to Anthony's batting success -- not on base percentage -- is going to be to find really good protection from whoever hits directly after him, most likely 2nd in the order. 

Because if Anthony starts maiming defensive players, like when he almost killed Sal Stewart Thursday, then he's not going to see many good pitches to hit.

A good #2 batter, say a .300 hitter or .500 slugger, can make the difference between Roman leading the league in hard-hit balls vs. just hard-hit rate.

Wasn't there a study done years ago showing that the notion of 'protection' was a myth, unsupported by any quantifiable evidence?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

48 minutes ago, jad said:

Wasn't there a study done years ago showing that the notion of 'protection' was a myth, unsupported by any quantifiable evidence?

Dunno -- after playing and watching for over half a century, I just need qualitative data to notice when pitchers, managers and teams pitch around a feared hitter to get to the next guy. 

A lot of times, I was very close to the action -- like in the on deck circle (because often the next guy was me).

[notin]

17 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

YOU set the WAR goalposts, nobody else. I just said Cal deserved it and am giving a reason. I don’t need to provide explanations for other posters.

 WAR was a single piece of evidence supporting Judge earning the award based on his season.  The original points were that Judge was  the pre-determined winner before the season began.  Even you said “Cal couldn’t win it last season, nobody else can. Eventually, Judge will fall off, but they'll just keep giving it to him for now.”

Thats the type of point I was posting about.  The guy had a monster season, supportable as better than Raleigh, and people still say “they just handed him the MVP.”  That’s ridiculous.  
 

I wasn’t asking who you thought deserved the award, which is a different question.  And one that 13 BBWAA writers agreed with you on…

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, jad said:

Wasn't there a study done years ago showing that the notion of 'protection' was a myth, unsupported by any quantifiable evidence?

The study says no,  But I have my doubts.  But there are other issues at play, imho.

• If I'm pitching to a good base stealer, with a good average hitter behind him, I'm throwing it down the middle before I walk him.
• The margin behind the two hitters has to be large.  I'm not throwing the ball down the middle to Soto just because Judge is behind him.  Soto is too good for that.  But I would throw it down the middle to Goldschmidt, for example, rather than risk walking him in front of Judge.

[notin]

46 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

The study says no,  But I have my doubts.  But there are other issues at play, imho.

• If I'm pitching to a good base stealer, with a good average hitter behind him, I'm throwing it down the middle before I walk him.
• The margin behind the two hitters has to be large.  I'm not throwing the ball down the middle to Soto just because Judge is behind him.  Soto is too good for that.  But I would throw it down the middle to Goldschmidt, for example, rather than risk walking him in front of Judge.

But at this point, don’t most teams have a game plan for how they’re going to pitch to each top hitter anyway?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

1 hour ago, notin said:

But at this point, don’t most teams have a game plan for how they’re going to pitch to each top hitter anyway?

Certain posters -- mostly uncertain -- meet in secret Zoom calls to share websites like merriam-webster.com/thesaurus, rhymezone.com and rollingstone.com to prepare for new threads with one goal in mind: "Don't let notin beat you!"

[notin]

50 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Certain posters -- mostly uncertain -- meet in secret Zoom calls to share websites like merriam-webster.com/thesaurus, rhymezone.com and rollingstone.com to prepare for new threads with one goal in mind: "Don't let notin beat you!"

I am aware, and weirdly, Ive been invited to some of those meetings…

[JoeBrady]

20 hours ago, notin said:

I am aware, and weirdly, Ive been invited to some of those meetings…

Of course.  Keep your friends close and you enemies closer.

[notin]

5 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Of course.  Keep your friends close and you enemies closer.

It’s not that.  I bring snacks…