2025 Prospects

[Larry Cook]

9 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

 Mullins, too.

Does he ever have a bad game?

I cannot understand why he is not in Worcester yet!!! 
 

with Tolle and early, the Sox had them working on secondary pitches a lot in Portland. 
but Mullins secondary pitches are already ahead of both early and Tolle!!!

there must be something development wise that they are working on for Mullins 

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

I cannot understand why he is not in Worcester yet!!! 
 

with Tolle and early, the Sox had them working on secondary pitches a lot in Portland. 
but Mullins secondary pitches are already ahead of both early and Tolle!!!

there must be something development wise that they are working on for Mullins 

I've mentioned that maybe they are trying to "hide" Mullins from other teams, so as to avoid a Rule 5 selection, this winter, but that seems like an absurd idea. I can't think of any other reason for the 24 year old to not be at WOO.

It's not like Drohan and De Leon, two current rotation pieces at Woo, are promising MLB depth needed to stay sharp in a AAA setting in case of emergency. Sandlin was moved to the pen. Tolle was promoted. Fitts, Criswell & others are on the IL. I see no viable reason. Maybe MVP can enlighten us.

Soxprospects,com has Mullins projected as the 5th pen arm on WOO for 2026. (They do have Tolle listed for Woo, as well as other starters: Fitts, Early, Uberstine, Drohan & Wehunt with Perales, Coffey and Anderson as "PB Starters.") The pen is ranked as such: Sandlin, Murphy, Guerrero, Moran & Mullins.

I hope he is not selected on Rule 5 Day. Maybe we protect him.

[moonslav59]

Murphy, Sandlin, Burdi & Hoppe have gone 8 IP allowing 1 ER, 3 Hits but 5BB w 6 Ks. McDonough homered twice. Toro homered again, and Ferguson also had a dinger. Campbell is 1-3 w 2 BBs and 3 runs scored.

POR is losing, late. Brannon homered.

GRE & SAL play tonight.

[moonslav59]

WOO scored 10 runs on 6 hits (5 BBs)

[Larry Cook]

Liendo stole his 40th base of the season today!!!  

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Liendo stole his 40th base of the season today!!!  

Wow!

[Larry Cook]

Two potential call ups since it is September 1st.
 

Garcia, Campbell, sogard, Kelly Murphy  ????? 
Grissom, fitts and Criswell on the DL. 
 

 

 

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Two potential call ups since it is September 1st.
Garcia, Campbell, sogard, Kelly Murphy  ????? 
Grissom, fitts and Criswell on the DL. 

It's Kelly and Ali Sanchez. He seems as good/meh a choice as any.

I guess they want the ability to PH for a catcher once or twice per game. I don't hate the idea.

[Larry Cook]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

It's Kelly and Ali Sanchez. He seems as good/meh a choice as any.

I guess they want the ability to PH for a catcher once or twice per game. I don't hate the idea.

Kelly has not been throwing well. Odd choice 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Larry Cook said:

Kelly has not been throwing well. Odd choice 

Neither has Murphy, Moran or I Campbell.

The only other choice not on the IL was Harrison- a SP'er.

I guess we could have DFA's someone to add Burdi or Sandlin, but neither has done anything to make that a real choice. (Early???)

[Larry Cook]

Does early or uberstine have a chance to contribute to the bullpen??? 

[moonslav59]

11 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Does early or uberstine have a chance to contribute to the bullpen??? 

I doubt in 2025.

[mvp 78]

13 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Does early or uberstine have a chance to contribute to the bullpen??? 

Probably Uberstine more than Early. Uberstine is a Rule 5 guy. 

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Probably Uberstine more than Early. Uberstine is a Rule 5 guy. 

Do you think we protect Uberstine?

How about Mullins?

[Larry Cook]

Harrison headed to Boston 

[Larry Cook]

Arias to Portland 

[moonslav59]

Early has gone 5IP 

2 hits

0 ER

0BB

8 Ks

Campbell & Romero homered.

I guess Masa deserves to DH more than Campbell, according to some.

[Larry Cook]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Early has gone 5IP 

2 hits

0 ER

0BB

8 Ks

Campbell & Romero homered.

I guess Masa deserves to DH more than Campbell, according to some.

Are they being extra cautious with Campbell after they rushed him earlier this year?

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Early has gone 5IP 

2 hits

0 ER

0BB

8 Ks

Campbell & Romero homered.

I guess Masa deserves to DH more than Campbell, according to some.

Campbell was a single short of the cycle. Early went 6 w 10 K and 0 BB but 1 ER.

Rogers pitched well in an 8-1 POR win.

Tygart pitched well in a 1-0 loss by GRE.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Larry Cook said:

Are they being extra cautious with Campbell after they rushed him earlier this year?

I guess the figured today Yoshida would erupt.

These guys know everything!

[Hugh2]

10 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

Are they being extra cautious with Campbell after they rushed him earlier this year?

There's something going on with him.  The underlying data is not good, for example his exit velocity is down. 

My guess is, at this point they view him as someone who needs time off, and a full offseason to get right and work on things. 

[mvp 78]

15 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Early has gone 5IP 

2 hits

0 ER

0BB

8 Ks

Campbell & Romero homered.

I guess Masa deserves to DH more than Campbell, according to some.

I think Early becomes the 6th starter next season. 

[mvp 78]

2 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

There's something going on with him.  The underlying data is not good, for example his exit velocity is down. 

My guess is, at this point they view him as someone who needs time off, and a full offseason to get right and work on things. 

His defense isn't that good. He's not making good contact and isn't pulling the ball. The Sox admitted that he skipped a few developmental steps by being rushed. I wonder if they've gone back to the basics or are deconstructing something? 

[Hugh2]

Just now, mvp 78 said:

His defense isn't that good. He's not making good contact and isn't pulling the ball. The Sox admitted that he skipped a few developmental steps by being rushed. I wonder if they've gone back to the basics or are deconstructing something? 

Didn't he have an injury earlier this season too? I wonder if there are some lingering side effects that have been hampering his swing.  I would be more optimistic if it was something mechanical, which makes sense.  I don't think a 23 year old just gets weaker and loses bat speed.  It's either mechinical or injury related.  

You hope a full offseason gets him right.  It really stinks, because they could certainly use a spark plug right now

[moonslav59]

35 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Didn't he have an injury earlier this season too? I wonder if there are some lingering side effects that have been hampering his swing.  I would be more optimistic if it was something mechanical, which makes sense.  I don't think a 23 year old just gets weaker and loses bat speed.  It's either mechinical or injury related.  

You hope a full offseason gets him right.  It really stinks, because they could certainly use a spark plug right now

They might be worried about calling him up and seeing him suck, again.

That could seriously hurt his confidence, but how long does he have to do well in WOO to figure he is ready for another shot?

MVP's point looks like he might have hit the nail on the head. They are probably putting him through the progressions they skipped before.

 

[Hugh2]

16 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

They might be worried about calling him up and seeing him suck, again.

That could seriously hurt his confidence, but how long does he have to do well in WOO to figure he is ready for another shot?

MVP's point looks like he might have hit the nail on the head. They are probably putting him through the progressions they skipped before.

 

Again, they're looking at the underlying data, which is not good.  We've seen them promote guys without good stats if the underlying data is good.  Today, that's what matters to them. 

I think they plan on working with him in the offseason.  We can kiss any Campbell 2025 rebirth goodbye. 

[mvp 78]

2 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Didn't he have an injury earlier this season too? I wonder if there are some lingering side effects that have been hampering his swing.  I would be more optimistic if it was something mechanical, which makes sense.  I don't think a 23 year old just gets weaker and loses bat speed.  It's either mechinical or injury related.  

You hope a full offseason gets him right.  It really stinks, because they could certainly use a spark plug right now

Have no idea what's going on with him. He has such a crazy swing that if his body is slightly off, his velo may go down bigly. I'm still pulling for him, but don't see a reason to rush it. 

[mvp 78]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

Again, they're looking at the underlying data, which is not good.  We've seen them promote guys without good stats if the underlying data is good.  Today, that's what matters to them. 

I think they plan on working with him in the offseason.  We can kiss any Campbell 2025 rebirth goodbye. 

For example, Roman had horrible baseball card numbers in Salem and was one of the first early promotions that year. All the underlying metrics were still showing that he was going to breakout. 

Campbell just isn't there right now. 

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Again, they're looking at the underlying data, which is not good.  We've seen them promote guys without good stats if the underlying data is good.  Today, that's what matters to them. 

I think they plan on working with him in the offseason.  We can kiss any Campbell 2025 rebirth goodbye. 

Good way to put it, and I understand they have their reasons. I rarely argue with what they choose to do.

I will say I wonder, like...

Coulda called up Anthony earlier. (I know, the OF squeeze that c=should have been solved, last winter, IMO.)

Coulda called up Mayer earlier or instead of Campbell. (More in hindsight.)

I'd like to see how Mullins does in AAA before the Rule 5 choice is made.

These are nothing to slam Brez & Co about, just my naive take.

 

[moonslav59]

Going by soxprospects.com and their projected 2026 rosters but adjusted by my adding in returning injured players not named Houck, and a couple flips, here are the rosters that may begin the 2026 season:

MLB: Crochet, Bello, Sandoval, Crawford, Tolle, Dobbins, Chapman, Slaten, Whitlock, Weissert, Bernardino, Hicks. Narvaez, Wong, Lowe, Romy, Mayer, Story, [Bregman] Anthony, Duran, Abreu, Rafaela, Yoshida, Campbell

AAA: Harrison, Fitts, Criswell, Early, Uberstine, Drohan, Perales, Wink, Sandlin, Murphy, Guerrero, Kelly, Moran, Rosario, Montero, Casas, DHam, Grissom, Sogard, Romero, Garcia, Eaton, Castro, Hickey, McDonough, Sikes

AA: Mullins, Paez, Holobetz, Clarke, Rogers/Dean, Ingrassia, Carlson, Wu-Yelland, Kirwin, Song, Hoppe. Jo Garcia, Brannon, Alcantara, Arias, Liendo, YRod, Taylor, Bleis, Ferguson, De Leon, Riemer

A+ Witherspoon, Valera, Phillips, Eyanson, Aita, Tygart, Foutch, Finley, Mayers, Ehrlicher, Futrell, Brooks, Cohen. Salazar, Anderson, M White, Godbout, Nunez, Gonzales, Martin, Turner, Cespedes, Mussett, H White, Yuten, Encarnacion

A-: Fajardo, Neely, Travieso, Ruiz, Patton, Brown, Morgan, J Bello, Gartrell