2024 Prospects

[notin]

They are likely 1-2.

 

I'm just thinking of a few Sox catchers who came up short:

 

RHern

Swihart

Lavarnway

Kottaras

 

(I'm sure there are more)

 

Local boy Steve Lomasney.

 

I don't think Kottaras was a bust in that he never had much of a ceiling anyway...

[moonslav59]

Local boy Steve Lomasney.

 

I don't think Kottaras was a bust in that he never had much of a ceiling anyway...

 

I think we got him from the Padres, where I believe he was once a highly ranked prospect in their system.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Hatteberg got traded for Pokey Reese, immediately signed with Oakland, and never played catcher again. And he became famous for it -- and not just because Pokey threw out the last batter of the greatest comeback of all time (but that was freaking good enough).

[moonslav59]

Notice I did not mention Marc Sullivan.

[moonslav59]

I'll start with Salem. Last night, the Salem staff K'd 17 and walked just 1 in a 3-1 win.

E R-C 5IP 3H 1ER 1BB 7K

The pen 4IP 2H 0ER 0BB 10K

Yuten homered.

Zanetello 2-2.

 

Greenville got killed 11-1

Early had a bad start (6ER in 4IP)

Castro 2-4 w DBL

 

POR won 3-2

Olivares looked good: 5IP 1H 0ER, but 5BB and 6K

Yorke continues to heat up (1-4 w HR & BB)

Jorda 3-4

 

Woo scored 4 in the 9th to win 7-5

Guerrero got the win with 2 scoreless innings.

Westbrook 2-5 w DBL

Grissom 1-4 w DBL

Marrero 2-4 w HR and DBL

[moonslav59]

POR is up 3-2, late.

 

Mayer is 2-4

Lugo & Jordan homered.

Dobbins had another good start. 6IP 5H 2ER 3BB 7K

 

Woo is down 3-2, late

Alvarez homered.

 

[Larry Cook]

Mayer looks amazing at the plate this season. He is really barreling up pitches and picking up the spin really well!!!!

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Grissom 4-for-4 Sunday, up to .333 in his Triple A "spring training"; he may just get to Fenway when Spring actually comes to Boston... temps projected in the 70s soon!

[moonslav59]

At the risk of "reporting" on Grissom, he went 4-4, today.

Kavadas homered and walked twice.

Rosier went 3-4 w a homer.

 

POR got killed, but Wikelman did well:

5IP, 1H, 2ER, 1BB, 8K

Anthony 0-5 (.664)

Mayer 0-3 w 2 BB

Teel 1-4 w BB

Jordan, Paulino & Yorke had 2 hits

[mvp 78]

Grissom 4-for-4 Sunday, up to .333 in his Triple A "spring training"; he may just get to Fenway when Spring actually comes to Boston... temps projected in the 70s soon!

 

Supposedly expected on Tuesday? IDK

[moonslav59]

Woo OBP Leaders

.459 Kavadas (also the leader in HRs)

.453 Meidroth (started out slowly)

.444 Grissom (should be called up, soon)

.412 Heineman (on IL)

.385 Refsnyder (raking in MLB)

.375 Romy G (on IL)

 

AA

.411 Lugo (HR leader, too.)

.361 Binelas

.360 Yorke

.354 Mayer

.352 Paulino

.328 Teel

.316 Anthony

 

A+

.395 Castro

 

A-

.488 Montero

.438 A Lugo

.426 Jh. Garcia

.423 Jo. Garcia

[mvp 78]

@brendan_camp

Blaze Jordan (Portland) and Tyler Miller (Greenville) were named Eastern League and South Atlantic League Players of the Week, respectively.

[moonslav59]

@brendan_camp

Blaze Jordan (Portland) and Tyler Miller (Greenville) were named Eastern League and South Atlantic League Players of the Week, respectively.

 

Who do you see as the most likely to be bumped up a level, next?

[mvp 78]

Who do you see as the most likely to be bumped up a level, next?

 

There have been a lot of early season transactions, but nothing really meaningful.

 

I think Yorke is promoted before Mayer simply because of AB's at the level. Penrod could get an early bump to AAA. Castro to AA.

[moonslav59]

There have been a lot of early season transactions, but nothing really meaningful.

 

I think Yorke is promoted before Mayer simply because of AB's at the level. Penrod could get an early bump to AAA. Castro to AA.

 

Sounds right.

 

How about?

 

Dobbins (24), Paulino (21), Jordan (21) or Bastardo (22) to Woo, at some point, this year?

 

The Garcia brothers or E R-C to POR?

[mvp 78]

Dobbins - yes

Paulino - no

Jordan - maybe, he'd be behind Kavadas/Hickey/Meidroth

Bastardo - probably as his stuff has ticked up this year

[moonslav59]

Jordan - maybe, he'd be behind Kavadas/Hickey/Meidroth

 

I'm wondering if we may eventually DFA Dalbec and promote Kavadas to the 40 and 26. He does bat lefty, while Cooper & Dalbec bat righty.

 

Hickey is more of a DH/ 3rd catcher type. Has he played 1B?

 

Meidroth may be better suited for 1B, but I think they keep him at 3B.

 

[moonslav59]

Paulino - no

 

Is his defense good enough for the bigs, especially at 3B/2B.

 

soxprospects says he "looks solid" at SS.

[mvp 78]

Is his defense good enough for the bigs, especially at 3B/2B.

 

soxprospects says he "looks solid" at SS.

 

He'd be better at 2b/ss/3b than anyone we've put there except Story. His SS defense is on par with Rafaela's I believe.

[Larry Cook]

 

Meidroth may be better suited for 1B, but I think they keep him at 3B.

 

 

Nobody in the Sox farm system approaches an at bat knowing exactly what they are looking for like this guy does.

 

He does a great job of making solid contact on the pitches he hunts

 

Never going to have much power, but will always have a decent OBP

[moonslav59]

Nobody in the Sox farm system approaches an at bat knowing exactly what they are looking for like this guy does.

 

He does a great job of making solid contact on the pitches he hunts

 

Never going to have much power, but will always have a decent OBP

 

I've come to learn that OBP does not always translate well into MLB.

 

I hope you are right.

[mvp 78]

Nobody in the Sox farm system approaches an at bat knowing exactly what they are looking for like this guy does.

 

He does a great job of making solid contact on the pitches he hunts

 

Never going to have much power, but will always have a decent OBP

 

The only problem is that he may struggle when he gets to MLB without a harder contact %. There is not a long list of guys who succeed without being able to hit the ball hard here or there especially if they don't have speed as a carrying tool. He can take a walk, but that will only get him so far.

 

I also disagree that 1B is his best position. He's been average at 2B and 3B and he doesn't have the size for 1B.

[Hugh2]

Nobody in the Sox farm system approaches an at bat knowing exactly what they are looking for like this guy does.

 

He does a great job of making solid contact on the pitches he hunts

 

Never going to have much power, but will always have a decent OBP

 

Is he making solid contact? I thought he had below average exit velocities. MLB pitchers will challenge him.

[moonslav59]

Is he making solid contact? I thought he had below average exit velocities. MLB pitchers will challenge him.

 

Where do you find exit velocities for minor leaguers?

 

Also, can someone make solid contact, a lot, as in hardly ever hitting the ball weakly and making solid contact more than the norm, but not hit the ball as hard as everyone else?

 

I've often wondered about this.

 

Another semi-related issue is when people use BAbip to determine if a batter has been "lucky" or "unlucky." Sometimes, I look at their hard hit % of Line drive% and see that it is higher than previous years, so I wonder how much of it is luck, or if they are just hitting the ball harder, so more are falling for hits.

[Hugh2]

Where do you find exit velocities for minor leaguers?

 

Also, can someone make solid contact, a lot, as in hardly ever hitting the ball weakly and making solid contact more than the norm, but not hit the ball as hard as everyone else?

 

I've often wondered about this.

 

Another semi-related issue is when people use BAbip to determine if a batter has been "lucky" or "unlucky." Sometimes, I look at their hard hit % of Line drive% and see that it is higher than previous years, so I wonder how much of it is luck, or if they are just hitting the ball harder, so more are falling for hits.

 

There is statcast data for minor leaguers but I don't think it's public. So this is hersay from scouts, but I seriously doubt soxprospects would report him having poor exit velocities if he does not, I know they either have access to that data or talk to people extensively who do.

[moonslav59]

There is statcast data for minor leaguers but I don't think it's public. So this is hersay from scouts, but I seriously doubt soxprospects would report him having poor exit velocities if he does not, I know they either have access to that data or talk to people extensively who do.

 

Makes sense.

 

My point is about whether "exit velocity" tells the whole story about making solid contact often.

 

Maybe he does not hit the ball as hard as others, but he hits it kinda hard more often than others.

 

Which is more important as a predictor?

 

[Hugh2]

Makes sense.

 

My point is about whether "exit velocity" tells the whole story about making solid contact often.

 

Maybe he does not hit the ball as hard as others, but he hits it kinda hard more often than others.

 

Which is more important as a predictor?

 

 

 

They look at max exit velocity, 90% exit velocity, barrel percentage, average exit velocity.

 

He's a small dude, he doesn't impact the ball well.

 

That doesn't mean he won't be a useful big leaguer, he's just never going to be great. He's not first division starter quality.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Makes sense.

 

My point is about whether "exit velocity" tells the whole story about making solid contact often.

 

Maybe he does not hit the ball as hard as others, but he hits it kinda hard more often than others.

 

Which is more important as a predictor?

 

 

The flaw in this metric is that there is no way to account for those with superior hand-eye coordination who can actually place the ball to certain areas -- to hit 'em where they ain't.

 

Examples: Boggs, Ichiro, Arraez.

 

Boggs was strong enough to hit for more longball, as many who watched his pregame BPs know. But he chose a lot more hits over a few more HRs.

 

ps. guaranteed another poster will find some stat to totally refute this post... but the fact is, we just dont know who is actually shooting the holes vs. those that are swinging as hard as possible and watching where the impact veers

Edited April 30, 2024 by 5GoldGloves:OF,75

[mvp 78]

Is he making solid contact? I thought he had below average exit velocities. MLB pitchers will challenge him.

 

It's still bottom 10th percentile in exit velo for MLB.

[mvp 78]

The flaw in this metric is that there is no way to account for those with superior hand-eye coordination who can actually place the ball to certain areas -- to hit 'em where they ain't.

 

Examples: Boggs, Ichiro, Arraez.

 

Boggs was strong enough to hit for more longball, as many who watched his pregame BPs know. But he chose a lot more hits over a few more HRs.

 

ps. guaranteed another poster will find some stat to totally refute this post... but the fact is, we just dont know who is actually shooting the holes vs. those that are swinging as hard as possible and watching where the impact veers

 

Boggs was able to utilize the Green Monster and hit lots of doubles. Meidroth is a singles hitter who rarely hits the ball beyond 200'. He only had 19 doubles last season.