A Realistic View at 2024: Part I

[Old Red]

I don't need him to run the Sox, I need him to hear what Crag needs and either let Crag go for it or jam it up Henry's flagpole until he says yes.

 

I agree 100%, and I can’t see Theo being one of JH yes men like Sam, and the rest.

[mvp 78]

I don’t think at this point unless something major happens between now, and Mar 28 that zRed Sox fans now know what direction the team is taking. It wasn’t all that long ago that fans were all excited about a new HOBO, and a promised full throttle approach. Promises aren’t always made to be kept.

 

Sox are treading water until the prospects show up. That was obvious when that's all that was showcased at Winter Weekend. We're in a holding pattern with this franchise.

 

I'll be watching the POR team more than the BOS team in the early part of the season if that's truly what matters long term.

[Old Red]

Sox are treading water until the prospects show up. That was obvious when that's all that was showcased at Winter Weekend. We're in a holding pattern with this franchise.

 

I'll be watching the POR team more than the BOS team in the early part of the season if that's truly what matters long term.

 

I think right now there will be more excitement following what Teel, Anthony, and Mayer are doing in Portland than what’s going on in Boston. Get your tickets early you don’t know how long they will be there.

[Dipre]

and hoping that nobody gets hurt. one SP goes on the DL for an extended time and this team might struggle to win 70 games. it is a gigantic clusterf*** built by a greedy, egotistical owner and an incompetent front office.

 

You're probably fun at parties.

[notin]

Sox are treading water until the prospects show up. That was obvious when that's all that was showcased at Winter Weekend. We're in a holding pattern with this franchise.

 

I'll be watching the POR team more than the BOS team in the early part of the season if that's truly what matters long term.

 

That’s actually a very stupid was to run this team that could amount to pissing away hundreds of millions of dollars if those prospects don’t work out. And isn’t even guaranteed to work if they do…

[Bellhorn04]

That’s actually a very stupid was to run this team that could amount to pissing away hundreds of millions of dollars if those prospects don’t work out. And isn’t even guaranteed to work if they do…

 

Yeah, it's crazy stupid. We have some good players right now, don't we? Devers, Story, Casas, Yoshida, Grissom, Duran, the bullpen...we're not a goddamn expansion team.

[mvp 78]

I think right now there will be more excitement following what Teel, Anthony, and Mayer are doing in Portland than what’s going on in Boston. Get your tickets early you don’t know how long they will be there.

 

One of them will be promoted to AAA before the ASB.

[mvp 78]

You're probably fun at parties.

 

But what if Lester got cancer again? You ever think about that?

[mvp 78]

That’s actually a very stupid was to run this team that could amount to pissing away hundreds of millions of dollars if those prospects don’t work out. And isn’t even guaranteed to work if they do…

 

Yup!

[mvp 78]

Yeah, it's crazy stupid. We have some good players right now, don't we? Devers, Story, Casas, Yoshida, Grissom, Duran, the bullpen...we're not a goddamn expansion team.

 

If the defense is better, they could have 8 or 9 more wins!

[moonslav59]

Yeah, it's crazy stupid. We have some good players right now, don't we? Devers, Story, Casas, Yoshida, Grissom, Duran, the bullpen...we're not a goddamn expansion team.

 

We also seem to have some decent role players: O'Neill, Abreu, Rafaela, Reyes, Wong/McGuire and platoon Ref.

 

It's all on the rotation.

[Bellhorn04]

But what if Lester got cancer again? You ever think about that?

 

Poor moon. All he was trying to do was be thorough about the risks of signing a guy to a long term contract. I guess you might say he was too thorough in this case.

[notin]

Yeah, it's crazy stupid. We have some good players right now, don't we? Devers, Story, Casas, Yoshida, Grissom, Duran, the bullpen...we're not a goddamn expansion team.

 

Wait. Did you compliment Yoshida? Call him “good”?

 

I mean, you spearheaded the early labeling of him as a bust. Are you … reconsidering and giving him a chance? Or did his name just get caught up in a typing frenzy?

[notin]

If the defense is better, they could have 8 or 9 more wins!

 

Pedro said 10-15…

[Bellhorn04]

If the defense is better, they could have 8 or 9 more wins!

 

Werner needs to be more directly involved in baseball operations, it's clear.

[Bellhorn04]

Wait. Did you compliment Yoshida? Call him “good”?

 

I mean, you spearheaded the early labeling of him as a bust. Are you … reconsidering and giving him a chance? Or did his name just get caught up in a typing frenzy?

 

I never said he wasn't good, I just thought it was a bad signing once I realized he's an expensive DH.

 

The Matsui comp has made me feel a bit better about him too.

[notin]

I never said he wasn't good, I just thought it was a bad signing once I realized he's an expensive DH.

 

The Matsui comp has made me feel a bit better about him too.

 

 

I think he can be the OBP guy they need atop the lineup. And he’s a pretty good base runner for a tortoise…

[mvp 78]

We also seem to have some decent role players: O'Neill, Abreu, Rafaela, Reyes, Wong/McGuire and platoon Ref.

 

It's all on the rotation.

 

O'Neillll - needs to stay healthy and hit like '21 or whatever was his one good season

Abreu - needs to hit similar to how he did in his SSS year, not a given

Rafaela - hasn't hit above AAA, may never

Reyes - bench guy that was DFA'd, who cares

McGuire - horrible, I'm 100% out on him

Refsnyder - only good against LHP, weak side DH due to bad glove?

 

There is a little bit to like and a little bit to be concerned about.

[mvp 78]

Poor moon. All he was trying to do was be thorough about the risks of signing a guy to a long term contract. I guess you might say he was too thorough in this case.

 

I just have to beat it into the ground for a little bit longer and then find something new.

[mvp 78]

Pedro said 10-15…

 

Well in that case!

[notin]

I never said he wasn't good, I just thought it was a bad signing once I realized he's an expensive DH.

 

The Matsui comp has made me feel a bit better about him too.

 

Also, maybe you never used the words “wasn’t good”, but his fWAR hovering around 1.0 didn’t escape your attention…

[notin]

Well in that case!

 

Hey, you can argue with me. But you can’t argue with Pedro.

 

Actually, you probably could. His Twitter/X handle is @45PedroMartinez.

 

Go get ‘im!

[mvp 78]

I think he can be the OBP guy they need atop the lineup. And he’s a pretty good base runner for a tortoise…

 

Even with his little legs, he's faster than your boy Tony Kemp!

[Bellhorn04]

Also, maybe you never used the words “wasn’t good”, but his fWAR hovering around 1.0 didn’t escape your attention…

 

It definitely didn't.

 

If Bloom had signed a freaking starting pitcher who could pitch I wouldn't have been as down on him for this signing. It was the allocation of resources that I hated.

[mvp 78]

Hey, you can argue with me. But you can’t argue with Pedro.

 

Actually, you probably could. His Twitter/X handle is @45PedroMartinez.

 

Go get ‘im!

 

I could never. I named my first dog after him!

 

RIP to a real one!

[notin]

Even with his little legs, he's faster than your boy Tony Kemp!

 

 

Those might be the two shortest players in MLB…

[moonslav59]

There has been significant turnover on the pitching staff and farm staff, but not enough at the top of the rotation.

 

Here is an incomplete list of pitchers lost and gained since the end of 2023:

 

Lost: IP/ERA

Paxton 96/4.50

Sale 103/4.30

Kluber 55/7.04

Bleier 31/5.28

Llovera 30/5.46

K. Ort 23/6.26

Brasier 21/7.29

Garza 18/7.36

Robertson 12/6.00

Joel Rod. 11/6.55

Bearclaw 8/12.91

Sheriff 7/2.70

Dermody 4/6.75

T Scott 4/4.91

Littell 3/9.00

Faria 2/22.50

Lamet 2/13.50

S Drohan

V Santos

Brock Bell, Jose Ramirez, Railin Perez, Ryan Miller, R Ammons

To DFA or stay in AAA? Jacques 27/5.06

 

Added:

Giolito

I Campbell

J Slaten

C Criswell

R Fitts

G Weissert

J Benitez

H Olivarez

N Judice

C Zink

(Added to 40: Wikelman & Perales: doubtful either will see MLB in '24.)

 

 

Edited February 5, 2024 by moonslav59

[mvp 78]

Those might be the two shortest players in MLB…

 

Can short guys even barrel the ball anymore? We need another short king like Pedey.

 

I guess Altuve is the same height. Kemp has always been slow though. Altuve was faster when he was younger.

[mvp 78]

There has been significant turnover on the pitching staff and farm staff, but not enough at the top of the rotation.

 

Here is an incomplete list of pitchers lost and gained since the end of 2023:

 

Lost: IP/ERA

Paxton 96/4.50

Sale 103/4.30

Kluber 55/7.04

Bleier 31/5.28

Llovera 30/5.46

K. Ort 23/6.26

Brasier 21/7.29

Garza 18/7.36

Robertson 12/6.00

Joel Rod. 11/6.55

Bearclaw 8/12.91

Sheriff 7/2.70

Dermody 4/6.75

T Scott 4/4.91

Littell 3/9.00

Faria 2/22.50

Lamet 2/13.50

S Drohan

V Santos

Brock Bell, Jose Ramirez, Railin Perez, Ryan Miller, R Ammons

To DFA or stay in AAA? Jacques 27/5.06

 

Added:

Giolito

I Campbell

J Slaten

C Criswell

R Fitts

G Weissert

J Benitez

H Olivarez

N Judice

F German, N Song, C Booser, C Zink

(Added to 40: Wikelman & Perales: doubtful either will see MLB in '24.)

 

 

 

Song was added last year. Booser and German both pitched for the org last year too.

[moonslav59]

Song was added last year. Booser and German both pitched for the org last year too.

 

Thanks for the updates.

 

Did I miss anyone significant?

 

(I know I list some that aren't.)