26th of May: Boston @ Arizona

[Maxbialystock]

i normally hate the way Cora rests his biggest bat -Devers. but sitting some guys whose bats have gone cold has turned out well tonite. good job Cora.

 

You are in the vast majority in hating that. In this instance I thought it was pretty obvious Cora had to shake things up.

[vegasbob]

So Max, the question becomes, stick with what works tonight or return to the more typical Devers/Duran lineup tomorrow ? Actually glad that Cora shook it up tonight the prior 4 games were awful offensive performances.

[vegasbob]

On the other hand, "load management" dictates that Sale is done after 5 tonight ? They only have a 4 run lead. Yes, i understand Sale went 110+- in last 2 outings, but he is now the STOPPER. Don't blow it

[illinoisredsox]

On the other hand, "load management" dictates that Sale is done after 5 tonight ? They only have a 4 run lead. Yes, i understand Sale went 110+- in last 2 outings, but he is now the STOPPER. Don't blow it

 

Radio guys are saying he’s been sick all week; given that, a really good outing for him and the team.

[vegasbob]

Radio guys are saying he’s been sick all week; given that, a really good outing for him.

 

Given that fact, more understandable. Good for Sale to have pretty much shut down D'backs, and thankful he got support. Now the BP needs to show up big time.

[vegasbob]

Yoshida needs tomorrow night off , never saw 3Ks from him.

[moonslav59]

Radio guys are saying he’s been sick all week; given that, a really good outing for him and the team.

 

Yup.

 

Managers know more details than we do.

[vegasbob]

Winck reinforcing my opinion that relievers who use more than 20 pitches to get through an inning are not very effective. Winckowski just got 6 outs on 20 pitches . That's effective !

[Maxbialystock]

So Max, the question becomes, stick with what works tonight or return to the more typical Devers/Duran lineup tomorrow ? Actually glad that Cora shook it up tonight the prior 4 games were awful offensive performances.

 

I think he'll go back to Devers and Duran tomorrow.

[moonslav59]

Winck reinforcing my opinion that relievers who use more than 20 pitches to get through an inning are not very effective. Winckowski just got 6 outs on 20 pitches . That's effective !

 

In the long run, you are probably right.

 

Wink has be "da man!"

[Maxbialystock]

Given that fact, more understandable. Good for Sale to have pretty much shut down D'backs, and thankful he got support. Now the BP needs to show up big time.

 

Agree on both points. Sale was off tonight, throwing just 60% strikes. Plus you could see that 4th ball called via delay of game upset him.

 

All the rule changes seem to favor the offense. Bigger bases. Limit on seconds between pitches. Batter can step out and interrupt the pitcher however. Pitcher can only throw to 1b once.

[moonslav59]

I think he'll go back to Devers and Duran tomorrow.

 

Devers was sick.

 

It does seem odd to give Duran a day off vs a righty, but Cora did start 3 lefties in the OF, so not all that weird.

 

2 days off might be what Duran needed.

[moonslav59]

Agree on both points. Sale was off tonight, throwing just 60% strikes. Plus you could see that 4th ball called via delay of game upset him.

 

All the rule changes seem to favor the offense. Bigger bases. Limit on seconds between pitches. Batter can step out and interrupt the pitcher however. Pitcher can only throw to 1b once.

 

Good observation on Sale.

 

It's very encouraging to see Sale be "off" and still keep the game in control.

 

Great to see the bats waking up. Let's hope it rubs off and continues onward.

 

Lot's of hard outs, too.

[Nick]

That's the Casas we've been waiting for...looks like a rock star.

[moonslav59]

What player has the second best OPS on the Sox from 2022-2023 (250+ PAs?

 

1. Devers .860 (17th in MLB)

2. Refsnyder .853 (21st)

(39th in MLB w BOS & SDP: Bogey at .813)

(41st in MLB w BOS & LAD: JD at .811)

(81st: Turner .780 w LAD & BOS)

(99th: Duvall .767 w ATL & BOS)

 

Only PAs w Sox:

.860 Devers

.853 Refsnyder

.833 Bogaerts

.790 JD

.759 Vaz

.752 Dugo

.737 Story

.720 Arroyo

.716 Duran

.697 Dalbec

.634 Kike

.578 JBJ

 

 

Edited May 27, 2023 by moonslav59

[Duran Is The Man]

What player has the second best OPS on the Sox from 2022-2023 (250+ PAs?

 

1. Devers .860 (17th in MLB)

2. Refsnyder .853 (21st)

(39th in MLB w BOS & SDP: Bogey at .813)

(41st in MLB w BOS & LAD: JD at .811)

(81st: Turner .780 w LAD & BOS)

(99th: Duvall .767 w ATL & BOS)

 

 

yet for reasons i still don't understand, Cora seemed to favor Pham over Ref last year.

[vegasbob]

Bernardino is a marginal guy for the opposite reason that Winckowski will probably make good MLB money. Wink gets 9 outs on 34 pitches. Bernardino issues a 2 out walk with a 7-2 lead, goes 3-2 on the last batter , using 24 pitches to finish the 9th inning.

 

BUT Red Sox win again . This will likely be repeated about 60-65 more times this year

[Nick]

What player has the second best OPS on the Sox from 2022-2023 (250+ PAs?

 

1. Devers .860 (17th in MLB)

2. Refsnyder .853 (21st)

(39th in MLB w BOS & SDP: Bogey at .813)

(41st in MLB w BOS & LAD: JD at .811)

(81st: Turner .780 w LAD & BOS)

(99th: Duvall .767 w ATL & BOS)

 

Only PAs w Sox:

.860 Devers

.853 Refsnyder

.833 Bogaerts

.790 JD

.759 Vaz

.752 Dugo

.737 Story

.720 Arroyo

.716 Duran

.697 Dalbec

.634 Kike

.578 JBJ

 

 

 

I like having the option of Ref and Tapia in the outfield.

 

Tapia gives us athleticism that we lack. Speed kills.

[Bellhorn04]

yet for reasons i still don't understand, Cora seemed to favor Pham over Ref last year.

 

You sure about this? I think Ref was on the IL the first half of August looking at the game logs.

[Duran Is The Man]

You sure about this? I think Ref was on the IL the first half of August looking at the game logs.

 

well....after Pham was signed, he played in 53 of the Sox 58 games with 235 PA. During that time, Ref only had about 60 PA and started 10 games, despite a higher OPS than Pham. And many of those starts were at the very end of the season when they were well out of it. I don't know, maybe they felt Pham had a better glove.

[moonslav59]

well....after Pham was signed, he played in 53 of the Sox 58 games with 235 PA. During that time, Ref only had about 60 PA and started 10 games, despite a higher OPS than Pham. And many of those starts were at the very end of the season when they were well out of it. I don't know, maybe they felt Pham had a better glove.

 

Neither are known for their glove.

 

As much as Ref has been viewed as a platoon only player, and I think rightfully so up to now, he started 41 games vs RHPs (.771 in those games was not bad) and only 16 v LHPs (1.084!), last year.

 

The team faced 36 LH's SP'ers last year and Ref started in less than half of those.

 

This year, we have faced 18 and Ref has started all 18.